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Date: Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:57

Submitted by anonymous
on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:57

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Ok, I have several pdl's that I am currently trying to straighten out. I've read a lot of the info on here and I am currently gathering my totals so I can post here and get some advice. It looks like I have more than paid back the loans in fees, but I want to finish researching the numbers to be sure. I saw a form letter to send them posted on another topic and I took the liberty of borrowing that, so thank you already!

Does anyone have info on JD Marketing? They have one of my loans and I cant find an address for them...consequently they aren't returning my calls at the number I have for them.

How about Geneva Roth Capital? Same problem. I found addresses and numbers for MTE and Arrowhead Investments and I will be sending letters to them shortly.

Also, I have seen on here the advice to speak with your bank and have initiated that dialogs to get my account closed ASAP! I'm so happy I stumbled across this website and I will definitely register. I have been seriously contemplating bankruptcy, but it looks like with your help I can avoid that and straighten things out myself.

Thanks for all the help, support, and advice you provide!! Just as an observer I've learned so much and found hope that I can get out of this hell!!

Shannon


Welcome and I love to hear when people have been helped. It is so nice to see people who are struggling find hope.

Know that you are not alone and no one will judge you here. Most of us have been where you are but some have gotten out from under debt. This is what keeps me going. Thanks for sharing your story.


lrhall41

Submitted by spatterson_40 on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 19:13

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Hi there. Again, thank you for the support. So I used some advice posted on this forum and called the CA Attorney General and also used a form letter found on the forum to contact the companies I'm dealing with. MTE Financial received a letter indicating that I'd paid them $625 on a $300 loan and that I should be considered paid in full. Am I wrong here? This is the response I received:

RE: Your Complaint

Ms. S,

We have received and reviewed your correspondence regarding your complaint with the company.


While the information that you have collected may apply to companies that have physical locations in your state, it is our opinion that it does not apply to our internet business model. This is based on sound advice from our legal department. In addition, the Legal Disclosures provided for customer reference at our website state the following:


Regardless of where you may be viewing or accessing this site, you as the borrower are responsible for complying with any local statutory obligations that may exist in your state or area with respect to this transaction. The Federal laws governing this consumer loan agreement may differ from the laws of the state where you reside. If you do not want to enter into a consumer loan agreement with us under our terms, then you should apply for a loan at a provider located in the state where you live.


Based on the information supplied in your complaint, it is evident that the information derived from some sort of form or template, as it does not apply to your particular loan. It is strongly advised that consumers do not fall prey to the contributors of this type of information, as it is not always true, nor does it apply to every circumstance. Often, the information actually incriminates the consumer for not abiding by the laws of the state that they live in. Additionally, any contradiction to a consumer????????s signed loan agreement can actually put them in default. While it is appealing to a consumer to find what appears to be an "easy way out" of their debt, there is no such thing if the debt is substantiated by a legal, signed contract. Using information containing legal jargon that you have not actually researched in an attempt to threaten a company into writing off a balance that you know you owe can actually be harmful to you as a consumer.


The money was lent to you by our company in good faith with the understanding that you would abide by the terms detailed in your loan contract, just as we upheld our end of the agreement by crediting the funds to your account in a timely manner. The Loan Note and Disclosure that you e-signed and thereby agreed to is very detailed and clear so as not to cause any confusion to you, the borrower, and meets all the Truth-In-Lending and Reg Z requirements as prescribed by Federal statute.


Due to the fact that you have revoked authorization on our debits, no further debits will be made from your account from this date forward.


Due to the fact that you are clearly in a situation that led you to use any information that you could obtain in an attempt to relinquish your debt with our company, and in the interest of good customer service, we have agreed to waive all finance charges currently due on your loan and settle for complete payment of the principal balance owed. It is our hope that this will ease some of your financial burden, as well as avoid further collection efforts that would inevitably ensue should you default on your loan agreement.


We will be prepared to provide you with the information necessary for repaying the $200.00 that remains due on your principal balance, after waiving your $60.00 finance fee and all collection fees assessed. Payment must be received by you in the form of a Cashier????????s Check or Money Order, as you have revoked our authorization to debit your account. We expect this offer will bring us to an amicable resolution.


Please acknowledge your understanding and acceptance of our proposal if you are in agreement with the offer detailed above, and advise which payment method you will use. Once your acknowledgement/agreement is received, we will provide you with the information needed to make the payment. Once we have received this payment, we will mark your account "Paid in Full."


If your response is not received within seven (7) days of the date of our offer, the offer will become null and void and collection efforts will resume.


Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.

Respectfully,

Compliance Department

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I responded back that they can consider the additional $235 over the $390 of loan and finance charges that has already been paid their additional principal and that I'd like them to consider the $625 as paid in full and I would no longer request refund. At this point, I just want to be done with them. Do you think this is sufficient? I dont want to get in trouble, but I also dont want to pay additional monies.

HELP!
thanks guys,
Shannon


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:37

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Hi there. Again, thank you for the support. So I used some advice posted on this forum and called the CA Attorney General and also used a form letter found on the forum to contact the companies I'm dealing with. MTE Financial received a letter indicating that I'd paid them $625 on a $300 loan and that I should be considered paid in full. Am I wrong here? This is the response I received:

RE: Your Complaint

Ms. S,

We have received and reviewed your correspondence regarding your complaint with the company.


While the information that you have collected may apply to companies that have physical locations in your state, it is our opinion that it does not apply to our internet business model. This is based on sound advice from our legal department. In addition, the Legal Disclosures provided for customer reference at our website state the following:


Regardless of where you may be viewing or accessing this site, you as the borrower are responsible for complying with any local statutory obligations that may exist in your state or area with respect to this transaction. The Federal laws governing this consumer loan agreement may differ from the laws of the state where you reside. If you do not want to enter into a consumer loan agreement with us under our terms, then you should apply for a loan at a provider located in the state where you live.


Based on the information supplied in your complaint, it is evident that the information derived from some sort of form or template, as it does not apply to your particular loan. It is strongly advised that consumers do not fall prey to the contributors of this type of information, as it is not always true, nor does it apply to every circumstance. Often, the information actually incriminates the consumer for not abiding by the laws of the state that they live in. Additionally, any contradiction to a consumer????????s signed loan agreement can actually put them in default. While it is appealing to a consumer to find what appears to be an "easy way out" of their debt, there is no such thing if the debt is substantiated by a legal, signed contract. Using information containing legal jargon that you have not actually researched in an attempt to threaten a company into writing off a balance that you know you owe can actually be harmful to you as a consumer.


The money was lent to you by our company in good faith with the understanding that you would abide by the terms detailed in your loan contract, just as we upheld our end of the agreement by crediting the funds to your account in a timely manner. The Loan Note and Disclosure that you e-signed and thereby agreed to is very detailed and clear so as not to cause any confusion to you, the borrower, and meets all the Truth-In-Lending and Reg Z requirements as prescribed by Federal statute.


Due to the fact that you have revoked authorization on our debits, no further debits will be made from your account from this date forward.


Due to the fact that you are clearly in a situation that led you to use any information that you could obtain in an attempt to relinquish your debt with our company, and in the interest of good customer service, we have agreed to waive all finance charges currently due on your loan and settle for complete payment of the principal balance owed. It is our hope that this will ease some of your financial burden, as well as avoid further collection efforts that would inevitably ensue should you default on your loan agreement.


We will be prepared to provide you with the information necessary for repaying the $200.00 that remains due on your principal balance, after waiving your $60.00 finance fee and all collection fees assessed. Payment must be received by you in the form of a Cashier????????s Check or Money Order, as you have revoked our authorization to debit your account. We expect this offer will bring us to an amicable resolution.


Please acknowledge your understanding and acceptance of our proposal if you are in agreement with the offer detailed above, and advise which payment method you will use. Once your acknowledgement/agreement is received, we will provide you with the information needed to make the payment. Once we have received this payment, we will mark your account "Paid in Full."


If your response is not received within seven (7) days of the date of our offer, the offer will become null and void and collection efforts will resume.


Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.

Respectfully,

Compliance Department

------------------------------

I responded back that they can consider the additional $235 over the $390 of loan and finance charges that has already been paid their additional principal and that I'd like them to consider the $625 as paid in full and I would no longer request refund. At this point, I just want to be done with them. Do you think this is sufficient? I dont want to get in trouble, but I also dont want to pay additional monies.

HELP!
thanks guys,
Shannon


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:38

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The famous MTE form letter.... I ignored their "generous offer" and sent a copy to my AG's office. Then I got their "sending you to collections" letter which I also responded that I was sending to my AG's office. I haven't heard anything back from them since and it has been a little over a week now.


lrhall41

Submitted by angell on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:40

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Shannon...I think the letter they have sent you is a FORM letter they send out in response to those os us who are using this site and letters? I know I have read the exact same thing before, and they are not one of the co's I am dealing with. Until one of the wise ones comes along, why don't you enter their name in the box at the upper right corner and see what comes up? Perhaps you will find that this is indeed a form letter?
I am thinking that they have no right to anything except the original loan amount and they are not a licensed co. I will cross my fingers for you anyhow.


lrhall41

Submitted by egyptcrossarabs on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:46

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I got the same form or should you say "famous letter", blah blah blah...they are so illegal and can't do a thing. You have way overpaid on the illegal debt. I too sent back to my AG office that I do not accept their offer and request a "paid in full" as I have done my duty and gone beyond by paying more than the principle. Haven't heard back.


lrhall41

Submitted by purplegirl69 on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:46

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