Mortgage, Foreclosure, Bankruptcy, Divorce??????
Date: Sat, 06/21/2008 - 04:47
Submitted by jennifer_bailey75
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Sat, 06/21/2008 - 04:47
Total Replies: 16
I made a couple of posts in the PDL section, but I have another question.
My situation is a total mess, and some of the problems have been repeats. I'm ready to make the changes I need to in order to get out of this cycle. Here is the chain of events..
My husband and I bought a home about 4 years ago. It looked like a dream come true. Built in 1890 with 4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, almost 2500 sq feet of living space, a full finished basement with bathroom number 3 having a whirlpool tub in the basement. It was beautiful. $74,900... Sound too good to be true??? It is.. The house had foundation problem, in that the cinderblocks were crumbling, there were several drug houses, and prostitution houses across the street. It turned into a big mess. Our mortgage company "adjusted" the documentation because we did not have a down payment, so we ended up with a second mortgage from the outset of the loan. We quickly fell behind when we found that the taxes and insurance were not included and after 3 months the mortgage company insisted on using their own insurance company increasing out payments from $448 to $880 a month... We were behind for most of the mortgage. I would set up payment arrangements, giving them all of our financial information, not being smart and figuring it out on my own, they would over budget us, and we'd end up further behind.
I contacted a company that claimed they would help us get the mortgage straightened around, (can't remember the name of it anymore at this point, if I do remember, I'll post it) They claimed they would get the mortgage company to reduce the interest rates, consolidate the two loans, forgive the interest and fees, or completely rework the loan all togethers. We paid them about $2500. They never did anything, claiming they could not get in contact with the loan company. At this time, after 3 years, our house apraised at $60,000. I think they falsified the appraisal in the beginning.
In the mean time, my husband of almost 10 years decided that he wanted to leave (it had nothing to do with financial issues, more with his girlfriend and his being bipolar). He promised to stay until the mortgage situation could be fixed, and possibly get the house financed in my name only. He backed out on that promise and moved out on our sons 7th birthday.
(Think it's bad? It gets worse)
I struggled to get someone at the mortgage(America's Servicing Company) company to help me, to no avail. They were rude, condesending, and accusitory. I explained the situation in full, but they refused to budge. I would have to pay them $1400 a month for a year then they would drop the payment to $880 after the first year or they would foreclose. ( I only made $8 an hour at that point)
I moved out of the house in May of last year after I was fired from my job (because they didn't want to "deal with another single mother" Yes I know I should have sued them, but I didn't have the will power, or the frame of mind to care at that point). I lived in the house for about a month and a half until I was placed at a job by a temp agency.
I found a rental place close to my job and my parents. The happy part is they hired me full time and permanent and I couldn't be happier with the people I work with or the job I'm doing.
More bad came though.. I had hired a lawyer for the divorce, who refused to return my phone calls. My husband's lawyer had sent her paperwork that I needed to fill out for Deed in lue of foreclosure, but she never contacted me to let me see them. She eventually was arrested on felony charges of trying to sneak a friend into the prison to see her boyfriend.. :shock: Then tried to send a collection agency after me saying I owed her more money. She only showed up to court once, for our initial hearing (he filed so she didn't have to do that paperwork) and I never heard from her again.
At this point, it's been a year and a half since my husband walked out. The mortgage has gone into full blown foreclosure, went up for sherriff's sale, (but they said they kept cancling the sale????) and now I don't know the status. We cannot finalize the divorce because we may end up having to file bankruptcy together. ( the only thing in dispute is the 401K) I'm at a loss. I don't want to have to file bankruptcy, and the mortgage company won't tell me much. They can't even tell me what exactly we "owe" on the house now. They refused to accept "Short Sale" offers in the past. We had the house on the market for almost a year and had 3 or 4 short sale offers. The Deed in Lue of Foreclosure never was accepted. Not to mention there is the smaller second mortgage to contend with as well.
Now after all the dirt laundry is aired.. the question: So is bankruptcy really my best option? I don't really have any other bills except for the PDLs...
I know it's a mess, and it's very depressing. I'm scared, tired, and depressed, and I'm beginning to feel resigned to the fact that my life will always be in shambles. I just want to not have to worry, and I'm tired of feeling like I fail with everything I do. I don't want to fail my son. Sorry for all the unnecessary facts, but I felt like I needed to full explain the situation. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. Thanks for letting me vent :(
Jen
Hi Jen - I can actually understand and sympathize with your
Hi Jen -
I can actually understand and sympathize with your situation, having been through something very similar myself - though not all in the same order (husband left first, then I bought a house on my own and got worked over by an unscrupulous mortgage broker, which ended up putting me into bankruptcy.)
At this point, I think it would be worthwhile to speak to a bankruptcy attorney, and soon - especially since you don't know where the foreclosure situation lies. I normally wouldn't recommend bankruptcy as a first option, because I've seen firsthand what it does to someone's credit rating - but sometimes, it's quite possibly the only option.
I don't know for certain that it's the only option for you, however - I know other members will be along to post other helpful information - I just wanted to give you some hope that things are not as bleak as they seem. It wouldn't be the end of the world if you did have to file bankruptcy - it would actually give you a fresh start without the worry of being pursued by the mortgage company for the mortgage on your old house.
Keep your chin up, Jen - things may seem like they're all going wrong for you right now, but they WILL eventually get better. You've started down the road towards a new life, it's just going to have a few bumps along the way - but it will all work out!
Jen, I'm so sorry! It does seem that your life is turned upside
Jen, I'm so sorry! It does seem that your life is turned upside down right now, but as Suebeehoney70 says, things will get better if you keep plugging away one day at a time.
Most bankruptcy attorneys will give a free initial consultation, so it certainly would be worth checking out your options. Of course, keep in mind that the attorney will most likely try to steer you in that direction since that is how he or she makes money.
I'm sure that others will be along here with advice for you and will maybe have some other suggestions!
I realize that you don't want to file bankruptcy nobody does, ho
I realize that you don't want to file bankruptcy nobody does, however it looks as though it would be in your best interest at this point. That way you can get a fresh new start as sue mentioned and get everyone off of your back.
I wish you luck and things will get better, actually they have you were hired permanent at your job that you like so try to think positive...things always work out in the end.
Thank you guys! It really has gotten better. It's all still ve
Thank you guys! It really has gotten better. It's all still very scary, but I do know that there are better things ahead for me. I'm out of a bad situation and working to improve my life with my son.
I qualified for the "Volunteer Lawyer Program" here, and my new laywer is very helpful. He does not however handle bankruptcy. He is working to arrange things so that my ex may have to foot the bill for the entire thing. Since he has already planned to file bankruptcy, but has to wait until November, because it is the second time so that enough time has passed. Trust me... I don't turn my nose up at anyone who's filed. Sometimes we get into a mess we can't get out of.. being young and stupid is a pretty good excuse the first time.
I know this mortgage mess is affecting a lot of people, so I wondered if there was some new information out there because of the horrible attitude of some of the lenders as well as the situations that some people like my soon-to-be-ex and I were put into.
A friend told me once to look at things this way:
"Don't ever say it's could beworse, say it has beenworse!" I've kind of made that my moto.
Thanks for the encouragement!!!
Jen
Jen, is your lawyer checking on the status or your mortgage/fore
Jen, is your lawyer checking on the status or your mortgage/foreclosure? Many lenders are willing to put you into a hardship program, but it sounds like yours hasn't been very helpful. However, if the foreclosure hasn't yet taken place, it's possible that you may still be able to do something. Good luck!
I am sorry for all that you have been through. When given lemon
I am sorry for all that you have been through. When given lemons, make lemonaide! File for bk and get that fresh start that you need and DESERVE! It is hard being a single mom at times and having to constantely worry about money makes it harder. I am glad you have a place and job you like. Make a new life for you and your son. Yall deserve it! Best of luck!
Alias, Part of the problem I have right now, is that my husband
Alias, Part of the problem I have right now, is that my husband refused to communicate with them at all at the end. He said he had washed his hands of me and of the mortgage. So to him, it was like if he walked away and ignored it, it would go away. He planned to file bankruptcy anyway, because he has a car loan too.
He had taken all of the paperwork for the mortgage company with him, and I finally found one loan payment receipt and was able to call them a few weeks ago. They couldn't really tell me anything. She was very polite this time around and suggested I call the lawyer for the bank.
At this point, I don't want the house anymore. I simply can't do it. It needs too much work now, it's been broken into because the mortgage company didn't secure it right away, the ac unit was stolen, the dishwasher was stolen, the copper wireing and plumbing was pulled out... ect. So I would spend a fortune trying to get it back in livable condition, not to mention the neighborhood.
I had a beautiful German Shepherd that was our guardian. Unfortunatly, I had to give him up along with everything else when I had to leave the house.
I don't know what exactly a hardship program would entail. I had given them all of my information before I moved out and they were unwilling to budge.
I just received a copy of a letter from my lawyer to his yesterday in the mail, he indicated in the letter that my husband was unwilling or unable to share information on the mortgage and that we want to know the status of it. He seemed to think that with all the sub-prime mortgage companies getting into so much trouble at this point, that they may be willing to write it off if there is anything left.
It makes it very hard to gather information because I work 8-5 and then come home and try to keep things in order for my son. I didn't mention in the first post, there is a bit more to stress me out.. lol. My son has Asperger's Syndrom and requires a LOT of routine, it makes it hard to change things.
It's funny, when I think about it now, everything happened all at once, my son was diagnosed just after my husband left, and it call crumbled from there. We are rebuilding. One step at a time. :) Thanks guys!!!
Jen
Jen, you certainly have your plate full! If you don't really wa
Jen, you certainly have your plate full! If you don't really want the house anyway, then it's probably a good thing that it's in foreclosure. I know that in my state the lender can also file for a deficiency judgment if the property doesn't sell for enough to pay the outstanding mortgage. I don't know what state you are in, but it sounds like that is the angle that your lawyer is working on.
So depending on how things work out with your two mortgage lenders, that is probably going to be the deciding factor regarding a possible bankruptcy, which was your original question. It sounds like you are dealing with the PDLs and getting them taken care of.
Again, I would say that it wouldn't hurt to get a free bankruptcy consultation with an attorney--just so that you know what all of your options are.
I would have loved to have stayed in the house, but after everyt
I would have loved to have stayed in the house, but after everything that has happened since, it isn't worth it anymore.... but that is water under the bridge.
I just was really wondering what kind of suggestions were out there. I keep hearing all kind of things about the foreclosure problems and that there are different and new laws protecting people.
I am in Indiana, but the lawyers don't seem to know anything about the deficiency clause you mentioned.. I saw something about it on the government website.
As far as the PDL's I've posted the question, but I'm still waiting help with Indiana info. I think I found some information, but I'm not sure how to decipher it. I'm think I'm having trouble focusing.. LOL. Thanks for all your help!!!
Jen
Jen, I don't know much about PDL loans, but I did find your PDL
Jen, I don't know much about PDL loans, but I did find your PDL post and I posted a short reply to bump it back up to the top. Hopefully, someone with more knowledge in this area will respond shortly. Good luck!
Thank you very much! I'm a patient woman... I'm just happy I fou
Thank you very much! I'm a patient woman... I'm just happy I found this forum!
Jen
I agree, it's a great forum! I was very happy to find it also a
I agree, it's a great forum! I was very happy to find it also and have received a lot of great advice!
Hey Jen - I have just returned from a trip to South Bend, IN tod
Hey Jen - I have just returned from a trip to South Bend, IN today (in fact, just a few moments ago, and hopped on here to check messages)...so I was at least in the same state as you for a bit today! :-)
keep your chin up, Jen, and if you need to vent, fire away, we're here for you.
South Bend is about a 2 hour drive from me. My grandparents liv
South Bend is about a 2 hour drive from me. My grandparents lived there for awhile. I loved visiting them there :)
I hope everyone enjoys their Sunday!
Jen
Bankruptcy
Your situation is very extenuating. "Bad things do happen to good people". I work for a mortgage company and we are seeing a lot of situations like yours. My guess is not only is your mortgage delinquent, but you probably have unpaid medicals, credit cards and etc. It sounds like you are trying to make a fresh start, it also sounds like you are much happier now and things do happen for a reason.
Although Bankruptcy has a stigma associated with it, many people file and their lives are much better because of the reduced financial stress. If you filed bankruptcy you would most likely qualify for a federal housing loan in two years, due to your extenuating circumstances. I have a saying "take your bath while the water is warm" - your water is pretty hot right now and getting a fresh start may be just what you need. You really should consult with a bankruptcy attorney, many of them have a free consultation and are listed in your yellow pages. After you are discharged, just pay your bills as agreed and in a few years your credit will be better and it will help you with your future goals. Just letting bad debt sit there on your report is worse than taking some action.
With all the other things going on in your life, get the financial stress out of the way.
Take care and best wishes.
I am beginning to see where the bankruptcy is probably the best
I am beginning to see where the bankruptcy is probably the best bet here. However, I do not have any other bills. That is what makes this very hard to swallow. No credit cards, no medical bills, nothing else but the PDL's. Unfortunatly, it was outrageous heating bills that put me over the edge this winter, that and not handling things intelligently. Depression is not a good excuse, but when you are depressed, you tend to do things now and think about it later. Some people eat, some people spend money. It took me awhile to figure out what I was doing and learn to channel it into something productive, like cleaning the house, or creating my dolls.
Thanks again guys for all the input, have a great week!
Jen
