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I want to pay my debt....

Date: Tue, 07/08/2008 - 06:36

Submitted by anonymous
on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 06:36

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Hi,
I have been sent a letter from penta group stating I owe a large sum of money. A few years ago I had gotten ill and lost my job. No doubt you know the tale....this cc used, then that cc used.....just dug a huge hole for myself. I did my best to wrok with the original debtor, however they so harassed me always wanting more. Now...going through my credit file and doing my best to get out of this mess. In the mean while, being contacted by penta group. While I do owe the money.....I do not owe that much money so I sent (certified mail with return sig.) a letter of validation. Mean while I have all of these strange calls, as have my neighbors and family members. Making note of them....I happen to not speak with these people for I will end up getting stressed and ill again. I just want to pay these people and be done with this chapter. They do not make it easy do they?
So, drafted another letter informing them they cannot contact me....neighbors and family. How do I get them to lower the amount. I am not looking to make payments and they do ot seem to like this so are not budging on lowering the amount. As mentioned, I owe the money and trying to pay all those I owe money to but would like them to settle. How do i get them to settle? Thank You for any info.


i would start keeping track of all calls,whether to you or family
members and/or friends.did you send your validation letter
certified mail return receipt.if you did and you have the green
receipt,every call,every email,everything until they properly
validate is an fdcpa violation.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 06:44

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Thanks for the quick response paulmergel.
I just sent the certified letter out last Thursday.
Yes, I am keeping track of the calls....many of which are not listed anywhere and are after nine at night. One number is 659-749-3319....pentagroup will call before 9 at night (caller ID identifies the caller and number), then several times after the other number has appeared (up to 11 pm). They do not call daily, however the days they call so too does that number appear.

I never answer and speak with these people. My problem is really how do I get them to lower the amount owed, as mentioned....while I own the debt it would seem it has almost tripled in the amount. I am willing to pay them out right....however I need them to lower it.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 06:58

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As of yet I have not noticed their name on any of the CR's...the original creditor is still listed but the account is closed.
They sent a letter stating I had 30 days.....I responded in a very timely fashion (the day I received it).


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 07:11

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I owe several debts and since pulling my CR I have had a non stop head ache trying to work with these several CA's to resolve my debt issues. They are not making it easy....one company LVNV (or something) turned my case over to a lawyer....I was the one that contacted them....however did not send the letter certified...they state they did not get it. Nor did I get anything from them, although they state they sent it....sigh....any way I was served papers and had to get legal advise...it was settled. Will it come ti this each and everytime.....I mean really.....it seems across the board these people are just wanting to take full advantage.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 07:18

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No...acct closed with the original creditor. I am not looking to stall paying these people....I am just wanting to pay all I owe. I have a certain amount of money to do it....the amounts on all are not the original debts....such high interest rates they have added....I cannot afford to pay them if they do not lower the amounts....then I am in the very same position. I am working part time now and cannot afford a payment plan....only have a certain amount of money to pay these people off. Can anyone advise how to best way to talk them into lowering the amount owed. Or....what your telling me is due to the age of the accounts I am stuck.....any more time goes by they will still add a very high interest and I cannot afford that either.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 07:37

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Oh well....I guess I am just stuck. Not sure how the lawyer got the other CA to lower the amount for they are not doing it for me and I cannot afford a lawyer to help me lower the amounts on the five CA that I currently owe.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 09:14

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I'm trying to find some info I ran across several months ago about negotiating with a CA. Haven't found it yet but the gist of it is: Decide how much you can afford to pay on each debt and start @ 40-50% of that amount. Remeber, negotiating is a give and take situation. You might actually have to do this over the phone (GA is a 1 party state so it is OK for you to record w/out their knowledge or consent). Write down everything both your side and their side. Be prepared to end at any time if things don't seem to be going the way you want them. Just try and stay calm and don't let emotion rule your actions. I'll see if I can find the link I'm looking for and post it for you.


lrhall41

Submitted by NASCAR_Devil on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 09:46

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Thanks nascardevil.
I will wait for them to validate the amount of the debt before deciding on speaking with them. I have looked online for info about negotiating with CA and have not found anything....I too will continue to look and will also post anything I run across....may just help someone else.
Thanks again!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 09:56

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I found info at a web site, however for whatever reason it cannot be posted here in this forum, not sure why but it just sates to remove the link and post???
Anyway found info at the credit info center on how to negotiate with CA....learned something very important as well. During the negotiation very important to request debt be removed from your CR.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 10:40

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Look for me there as well. It's called pay for delete (PFD) but may not work for your particular situation. Since you are not able to pay the full amount you would be looking for a settlement in full. The stipulation that you must insist on is that any unpaid balance not be sold to another JDB. That can bite you in the a$$ years down the line. Another thing you want to watch out for is any amount over $600 that is forgiven. That would generate a 1099c to be issued and you would have to claim anything over the $600 as income on your taxes. Also, it is doubtful if you settle for less than thefull amount that you could get the tradeline deleted from your reports. I think the best you could negotiate would be an update to a Settled in full or settled for less notation. Not the best scenario and hopefully another forum member, Debt Cruncher, who is in that line of work can expound a bit more.


lrhall41

Submitted by NASCAR_Devil on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 10:46

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nascar is giving some great advice, the real key is to be firm in your negotiation.. also is they have continued to attempt collection during the validation period, that is a violation of the fdcpa and it might be useful to remind them of their transgressions during the negotiation asuch as part of your final offer at the end... something liek I will give you this much and agree not to pursue legal action against you for FDCPA violations (even sharing your copious documentation with them to prove your case upfront.


lrhall41

Submitted by jj on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 15:27

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