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This is bugging me

Date: Mon, 08/18/2008 - 18:24

Submitted by kscornell
on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 18:24

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OK, I need to hash this one out. Recently, a person from California posted on the boards to get help with their PDL problem. Although the legal limit for a PDL in Cali is $300, they got loans for over that amount.
Both Shazzers and I told her to payback what she borrowed and stuff the rest, which is what I believe is right and what I did myself with my own PDL mess.
There was a guest who cut and pasted from the state financial code which said the loan was illegal and therefore the person didn't need to pay any of it back--and tore me a new one because I said otherwise--so I told him to step up and register!!
What I have been struggling with is this: if the loan is illegal, do we still tell the person to walk away from it, even though they did have use of the money?? Notice I didn't say anything about paying fees, but if you borrow $500 and had use of it, shouldn't you pay that back?


My stand on this issue has always been clear: if you borrowed the money, you should pay back at least what you borrowed. If you feel comfortable NOT paying the state-allowed amount of interest, so be it. But I've always tried to state that this is a personal choice. If a person chooses not to repay an illegal loan, even though they took the loan and used the money, then that's up to them. But I couldn't sleep at night, myself.


lrhall41

Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 18:53

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I agree, kscornell - it's like Rt. 66, who had the b*lls to call me over 2 years after I paid them off and tell me I hadn't paid completely on my $250 loan, and now owed them $4000! They hassled everyone that I work with and even tried to talk to our CEO. I finally got my HR manager and my supervisor involved and they sat down with me waiting for his next call. My HR manager really reamed this guy out. It took about 4 hours, of the switchboard operator hanging up on him, but he finally stopped calling.


lrhall41

Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 03:32

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I think they should pay them back.

It's not just for moral reasons. There are a couple other reasons I can think of:

1. Payday Loan companies use the "default" rate to justify their high rates. People that don't pay back what they borrow are giving them amunition to stay open.

2. You never know what some rouge judge may say. The company could take you to court, and some judge may order you to pay.

3. You can't ever be accused of fraud or some other crime if you paid back what you borrowed.


lrhall41

Submitted by goudah2424 on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 06:41

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Very true, Goudah. But if you just pay what you took, and blow off their ridiculous fees, would that still be considered as a default?
And Suebee, there are no words to describe the contempt I feel for Route 66, Cash Today and other companies like that, who have screwed over so many people in this country. If the new President, whomever he will be, only is able to ban these companies from doing business here, that will be enough to have my vote.


lrhall41

Submitted by kscornell on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 06:46

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Internet based payday lenders who aren't licensed are clearly in the business for a quick, easy profit. They believe they are above the law. I don't think any of them (specifically unlicensed) would lower rates or fees for any reason, especially since they continue to conduct business unlawfully and have from the get go. I do believe however, you should pay back what you borrow. :wink:


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 07:50

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