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The Bureaus INC ??????

Date: Wed, 10/29/2008 - 08:30

Submitted by atruefamilyx6
on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 08:30

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Okay I posted a previous post about ORCHARD BANK, but now I have another situation. I just viewed my credit report and this is what it says about my account with Orchard Bank (HSBC):

Transferred, closed/Account charged off. $344 written off.
Date Opened: 12/2006
Charge of as of 5/2008
Creditors Statement: Purchased by another lender.

Now on my report it also shows:

The bureaus inc (which I guess is the lender that purchased this debt from HSBC)

Status: Collection acct. $893 past due as of 10/2008
Original Creditor: Bureaus Investment Grp NO 15
Date opened: 6/2008

** Now my question is how is this possible??? The original creditor should be HSBC, right??? And it HSBC wrote off $344 than that is what I should be responsible for to make this debt go away, right??? Another thing how can it say that the date opened was 6/2008 when the account was opened in 12/2006????

What should I do???


$344 to $893 in 5 months is a stretch. Interest couldn't be that much. I would question that. The date opened is correct since that is when The Bureaus first reported the account after purchase and is irrelevant. The date that is important is the Date of First Default (DOFD). That is the date you missed your first payment and never brought the account current and also begins the 7.5 year reporting period. What state are you in? SOL is another factor to consider. You can dispute the accuracy since HSBC is the OC but since you are likely still w/in SOL, you might let sleeping dogs lie. Have they sent you a dunning letter yet?


lrhall41

Submitted by NASCAR_Devil on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 08:55

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We/my husband has similar issue with this very creditor, however report does not state any info on OC at all. Showing high balance/limit for $8539, but the Bureaus are showing $10,146 past due?!?!?! We have received NOTHING at all in writing or otherwise in regards to this account...what are we to do? This really tarnishes a person's credit standing etc, especially if we would like to move forward and purchase a home.
FYI - We are in MN.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 09:03

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I have a similiar situation with The Bureaus Inc,. HSBC charged this off March 2007 in the amount of $2768.00. Now HSBC has it and says that i owe $3668 as of Feb. 2009. Shows they aquired this in April 2007 and last reported date is 2/2009. When will this ever come off my report if they keep updating the last reporting date? Does it go back to the date they aquired it? Should i contact them to get possibly a payoff amount? HELP!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 11:04

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The date last reported has no bearing on how long it stays on your reports. 7 years + 180 days from the Date of First Default with the OC is the maximum amount of time a derogatory can stay on your reports. WHen did you miss your first payment and never again brought the account current? That will be the start date.


lrhall41

Submitted by NASCAR_Devil on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 11:29

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I am not sure. I thought is was in Sept. or Oct. of 2005. This says it was opened in 01/2006. Is that when i opened the account or when it was opened for collection? Maybe i have the years wrong? This says for account history 30 days as of Oct 2006. Then every month after 60, 90 etc til it was charged of as of April 2007, March 2007. Would i be better of just trying to get this paid off since we are going to try to buy a house this year. I had heard that it hurts your credit score if you pay off a collection so not do it right before you apply for a loan? Is this true? Also would it show better if i were to make payments on it. Would it show up on my credit report as paying as agreed at least like i was at least making an attempt to resolve it?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 12:46

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If the original creditor was HSBC and the debt was written off, then bought by the bureaus, how should it appear legally on the CR? I have also been written off by HSBC with a balance still owing showing. The Bureaus has reportd on the CR the same balance that was written off by HSBC. The HSBC part should be dropped August 2009. Will the entry from the bureaus drop at that time 2? If not, isn't that reaging? Isn't that against the law?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 14:55

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I rfecieved a phone call today, 6/25/2009, from someone named " Bill Smith ( I think that was his last name )", and he told me that my account that had been with HSBC was now their account, that they had purchased it from HSBC. He told me my account was $3800.00 past due and that I hadn't paid on it since12/8008. I told this guy that I had suffered three heart attacks in january and bee in the hospital for a long time, and had returned to work in the last 60 days. This guy wanted me to write him a check for the amount owed. I said I can't do that. He asked me how long it would take to pay off the account? I told him about 3-4 years. He said oh no. We can't do that. Heres how it will read on your account, "uncooperitive, and refused to pay. Hows that?" I told him it was a bear faced lie. He had already hung up.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 06/25/2009 - 10:49

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I had a strange feeling about this place from the start. I now know that between 6/12 & 6/29 they have put on my CR themselves as the original creditor, changed the account number, added crap fees, and probably illegally re-aged my charged-off HSBC account. All done during my validation period. I am not pissing with these morons. I see an attorney in my future. Keep your eye closely on CR with these people.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 15:10

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I just checked my credit report and found a potentially negative item listing for The Bureaus Inc. in 2005. When I disputed their debt with Experian, they posted another for August 2009. When I tried to call them to inquire about this debt I am either left on hold for 20 minutes or transferred to an answering service. I am not showing any charge-offs that have not already been accounted for and paid so I do not know what the hell these people want or why they are on my report.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 08/29/2009 - 10:11

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Did any posters on this thread do any legal action with the the bureaus and have been successful? Currently going through pretty much the same issues you guys have: accnt sold from one CA to bureaus and has gained "interest" fee, got nothing in writing/no notification whatsoever. In dispute as we speak.

Any suggestions?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:12

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Bureaus do not seem to be licensed to collect in their home state of Illinois. Wonder why that might be?


The Bureaus, Inc. is a collection agency licensed in Illinois. Bureaus Investment Group is the owner of the debt. B.I.G. has T.B.I collect for them- it's all quite legal.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 04/20/2010 - 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Bureaus, Inc. is a collection agency licensed in Illinois. Bureaus Investment Group is the owner of the debt. B.I.G. has T.B.I collect for them- it's all quite legal.


oh really?i looked and couldn't find anything on them.care to give a license number?if not then they are not licensed because you say so.prove it.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 04/20/2010 - 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did any posters on this thread do any legal action with the the bureaus and have been successful? Currently going through pretty much the same issues you guys have: accnt sold from one CA to bureaus and has gained "interest" fee, got nothing in writing/no notification whatsoever. In dispute as we speak.
Any suggestions?


Yes. They ended up sucking up the debt. I would have paid what I owed them but they wanted to break laws instead of collect money. Always have them prove the debt. They usually can't. Sometimes they place the debt with another company to collect. Got them 2.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 05/25/2010 - 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulmergel
oh really?i looked and couldn't find anything on them.care to give a license number?if not then they are not licensed because you say so.prove it.

HAVING BEEN EMPLOYED BY THEM FOR A NUMBER OF TEARS, i CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT TBI IS LICENSED/REGISTERED IN EACH AND EVERY LOCALITY REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO SO, AND RENEWS REGULARLY.

YOU NEED TO CHECK WITH THE ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL INSTUTITIONS


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 09/02/2010 - 12:54

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any of you geniuses ever stop to think that what you know might be unknown by others and even reasonably prudent people can't determine what you're referring to?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/04/2012 - 08:27

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