logo

Debtconsolidationcare.com - the USA consumer forum

Help!!! So scared - embezzlement question, personal loan

Date: Thu, 11/06/2008 - 13:46

Submitted by anonymous
on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 13:46

Posts: 202330 Credits: [Donate]

Total Replies: 9


Here is my story. Over the past several years I borrowed approximately $8K from a friend. A few months ago we had a falling out and he asked for the entire lump sum paid in full. I only make $2K/month and have zero savings at all, and I explained to him that while I was willing to repay, there was no way I could do it in full all at once. I offered a payment plan, and then he contacted an attorney, who has contacted me. I showed my budget and paychecks to the attorney and explained that I wanted to pay the debt, but just could not do it all at once. He said he would talk to the client and get back to me. I received a certified letter offering a $2K down payment due Dec 1 (which I can make - going to be horribly tight but I think I can swing it) and then $500/month until the remainder is paid.

However, about an hour ago I received an email from my "friend" (the client) telling me that he has been advised to bring embezzlement charges against me and inform my employers of my unwillingness to repay him. He said this would more than likely result in me losing my job and I had better act fast. It was very threatening. I replied to him and explained that I was about to pick up the certified letter and would be contacting the attorney to go from there, that I was willing to repay the debt and not ignoring it, and that I wouldn't be able to repay if I didn't have a job.

I tried calling the attorney but had to leave a voicemail. I am in agreement with the payment plan and I cannot afford criminal charges filed (as I WOULD lose my job, and then have no way to repay!) but I'm totally freaking out. I would lose my job, my home, everything. Can he do this? Even if I agree to the payment plan that he offered? Or is he just trying to scare me?


Total BS. Borrowing money is a civil matter, not criminal However I believe what your "friend" is attempting now is extortion. Look at the definitions. Maybe you should consult an attorney before you pay him a dime.....maybe talk to his attorney, suggesting that the loan be dropped....who knows...might work.

Britannica Concise Encyclopedia: extortion


Unlawful exaction of money or property through intimidation or undue exercise of authority. It may include threats of physical harm, criminal prosecution, or public exposure. Some forms of threat, especially those made in writing, are occasionally singled out for separate statutory treatment as blackmail.

Embezzlement
Fraudulent appropriation, for one's own use, of property lawfully in one's possession; type of larceny. Embezzlement is often associated with bank employees, public officials, or officers of organizations, who may in the course of their lawful activities come into possession of property, such as money, actually owned by others.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 13:56

( Posts: 17315 | Credits: )


Thanks so much. I did look it up and saw that embezzlement charges can be filed on a personal loan that goes unpaid for an extended period of time. So, I guess he *could* technically do that. The part about notifying my employers really scares me, as I would lose my job.

His attorney did call me back. He was very nice. He knew nothing about the email that was sent and was very surprised. He said he was not sure who he was receiving this advice from. I asked him if this could still happen and explained that I'm willing to repay in agreement with his terms, and he said he would talk to the client later today.

I'm just still very frightened.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 14:06

( Posts: | Credits: )


i wouldn't worry about your cretin ex-friend calling your work.in fact if he does he probably will lie or misrepresent himself.opening him up to charges of impersonating an attorney or other official.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 14:37

( Posts: 15514 | Credits: )


yes that too soaplady.actually did you get this loan while he was there and how many there now know about it.it may be much ado about nothing.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 15:07

( Posts: 15514 | Credits: )


Well if he would go to your work and tell your boss about your situation that would be public disclosure of private facts. Similar to defamation only in this case it is providing information that is not of public concern, Defamation is providing false information to the public.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 15:50

( Posts: | Credits: )


PMBURK,
DO NOT agree to any kind of repayment plan that would put you into any kind of "tight" position. You are agreeing to give him 1/4 of your paycheck for the next year. With the unstable economic situation that is before us, what happens if you loose hours or your job. You have no savings and this agreement can hurt you badly. Offer to pay less down and less a month.

Is there any documents that says you borrowed the money and when and how it is to be repaid?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 16:18

( Posts: | Credits: )


I agree with Cellular, I would not agree to any type of payment plan, with anyone, that puts you in a financial "bind." The greater the financial difficulty it puts you under, the chances tend to go up exponentially that you will then default on this agreement.

I might also follow the recommendation of consulting your own attorney regarding this matter, and especially the E-mail. I agree, this strongly smells of extortion. There is no earthly reason why he would need to contact your employer. I feel he would be opening himself up to all sorts of legal problems if he did this.

What state do you live in? Check your state laws regarding any types of protections they might have against original creditors and their harassment of debtors. The fdcpa doesn't apply in this case; however, from what I'm reading this person has placed himself in the role of the original creditor and their might be laws that can protect you from his abuse.

I would also make sure you have any communication with this @$$-hole, or his attorney, in writing; or make sure you follow up any conversation you do do have with them by putting it in writing.


lrhall41

Submitted by FloridaRon on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 17:05

( Posts: 1190 | Credits: )