United States Crime Suspect Dept? Collection agent posing as officer..
Date: Mon, 12/15/2008 - 13:39
312-281-2221 ext 1041
I know darn well this is a scam. What do I need to do to nail these guys?
I am guessing you had a payday loan? Either way they call fr
I am guessing you had a payday loan?
Either way they call from India most likely. What I would do is find out if you can record calls in your state without notifying the other party.
If you can, have some fun. Act real nervous attempt to cry and this way he will threaten you more. "PLEASE don't have me arrested!!!!!!!!!"
They can't do crap to you but you should have some fun at their expense.
I did have a couple of old payday loans... I thought they were a
I did have a couple of old payday loans... I thought they were all repaid or dropped, but it is possible I forgot about one (I was in a pretty bad situation for a while).
I do have the voicemail message recorded and saved. It is pretty funny, actually. I've already filed formal complaints with the FTC & state Attorney General's office. Part of me is tempted to call them back to ask what they plan to do to me, and have some fun with them.
Well, they called me again today and I mistakenly answered the p
Well, they called me again today and I mistakenly answered the phone. Same person with Indian accent, identifying himself as the "Chief Investigator" and telling me that if I do not pay them $330 today, then they will "freeze my social security number" and I will no longer be able to work within the US. Also telling me that the Attorney General is preparing to file federal fraud charges on me if I do not pay immediately.
I requested information regarding the debt and they would not tell me what it was for. They said it was for a loan that was deposited into a Bank of America account. I've never had an account - EVER - with Bank of America. I told them I would have to see mailed copies of all documents supporting this debt, they said this was not possible. I asked them for this multiple times and was told that I "already had the documents when I took the loan" and that it was not possible to get any validation. I said thank you, and hung up on the loser.
Here are the phone #s they gave: 312-281-2221 ext 1041 (yesterday), 805-386-6104 (today).
I have filed reports wtih the Attorney General's office (Texas) and the FTC - but what else can I do to stop these idiots from calling me?
There is nothing you can do to stop calling them. Even if you pa
There is nothing you can do to stop calling them. Even if you pay them they will keep calling saying you never did most likely.
Like Paul said, do not answer the phone if by mistake you do hang up. eventually they will go away.
These guys are a joke. Long drawn out legal-mumbo jumbo that wo
These guys are a joke. Long drawn out legal-mumbo jumbo that wouldnt even be caught on the worst episode of Law & Order imaginable. Today though, I found the ultimate revenge. I turned the tables on "Officer Sean Baker at ext 1401". I called back 7 times. The first time I left a message stating the obvious, that they were scammers, etc. the following 5 I called and left messages like "Hey Sean... its Mike. Guess what? You made a new friend and every time you call me just once, I will call you back again and again... just for s***s and giggles". The last time I called back, I left a message that was verbatim that which he had left me, accent and all. Finally, on the 8th call back to them, a supervisor came on the line... and told me that Sean did not want to speak to me... and that my number would be removed from the call list. So... that's the solution. Give them just as much s*** as they give you, and they will leave you alone. JUSTICE!
Awesome idea, micman!!!! LOL!!! Today I got another call, thi
Awesome idea, micman!!!! LOL!!!
Today I got another call, this time it was Officer David something or other. Same msg, except this time saying it was my "last chance" and the "last time they would call me" (Boy I wish!!!!) and how I was now in for "serious legal trouble." LOL!!!
Telephone Call
We started receiving calls like this on Dec 15th. Yestrerday was when it was the last day to call back or serious unknown things could happen to my son. This gentleman was very threatening and abusive on the phone. I asked for his Officer#, website and I wanted to know why companies phone number wasn't listed. I also told him that he was not working for a government facility. He was full of crap.
I reported the phone number to the local phone company and have filed apolice report for harrassing-threatening phone calls.
This guys name was Office Sam Smith and then we also had some one on a different line at home asking for some one else. His name was Office David (how original) I asked for the address of his business and I received a foul mouth and I told it was confidential government information. I for sure knew it was a scam when is anything a secret with our government.
What is really scary is that they have our social security numbers. :?
United States Crime Suspect Dept.
Hi all, I had the same kind of call today, only the caller named himself "Mark Johnson" with Badge number 261 with the United States Crime Suspect Department. I filed the complaint with the Oregon Attorney General and hopefully they can help verify exactly who these scammers are. It sounds like they are on a spree. I have gotten calls like this before from another organization, but also all with heavy Indian accents claiming I am in big legal trouble but it was related to my friend, not me, but it would be me who pays. I usually write them off and tell them to call her. I think I have received two calls since summer, and this is the first from this "organization". Just ignore them, but certainly file a complaint. They may be scamming others and getting away with it. Our information may help.
Definitely report these types of calls - and if you have call bl
Definitely report these types of calls - and if you have call block available on your phone line, I'd suggest blocking the number(s) they call from as well.
This is a criminal organization, masterminded by the notorious T
This is a criminal organization, masterminded by the notorious Ted Ellis Crosby, who was kicked out of Florida earlier this year by AG Bill McCollum.
Crosby has since outsourced his operations to India. Go to 800- notes and look up 800-717-1708. Below is an excerpt from one of the posts, describing it in detail. I couldn't include everything, as it contains multiple links which could not be posted here:
It's a scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more. These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection. (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collection in Florida again. There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.
If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone).
1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion.
2) Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone. Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4) File a complaint with your state's attorney general's office.
5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission.
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)
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one other tidbit.since these calls are coming from out of the country.your state laws reharding recording calls is moot.in other words.RECORD AWAY.that's right,got that from a friend who works for the IL states attorney.since these calls are not originating in the usa recording laws are moot.
Well, 7 more calls today in the space of 30 minutes! I was at lu
Well, 7 more calls today in the space of 30 minutes! I was at lunch and they were calling on my cell, so I answered and chewed them out each time. "Officer Shawn Baker" told me that a Sheriff's deputy would be at my office in 20 minutes to arrest me for a "non payment arrest warrant." I started laughing and then cussed him out, and he got very upset. 3 more times, I answered but said nothing and just sat there. The other times I answered, yelled "Don't call me agian" and hung up.
I'm going to file a complaint with the local police dept right now.
I notified the local sheriff's office (who laughed when I told t
I notified the local sheriff's office (who laughed when I told them the story!), and also filed a harassing phone call report with the local PD.
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OMG!! What a story!! These 'people' will do anything to scare the crud out of you..won't they? Let me put my '2 cents' in here. ONE of the numbers, listed above, actually came up on my Caller ID. Yep..I answered the phone ( like a fool). They din't say they were 'Officier so-and so'..what they DOD say was they were in "assocaited with a Law Office and one of their reps was on his way to serve me a warrant ( I din't catch the name of the 'Law Office'..sorry). I told them "I'll be waiting for ya."LOL Of couse, no one showed up. Gosh........lotsa scams out there, these days.
SCAMMER
Im a 22 yr old right out of college and this person same as described above has called me and told me it was a legal matter in reference to a friend of my from school...he listed his name which concerned me. I couldnt make him out to clearly so i told him to call back and leave a msg on my voicemail. About 5 min later, my phone rang again..unknown, so i let it go to vm. When I checked my vm, the msg had changed from being for me, to being for my friends moms name....this is too wierd, can they target groups of people and how would they know we know each other??
they tried to get me too
Well today i was also contacted by a (officer)sam smith (i laughed when he said who he was) cause right then i knew that it was a scam. cause ive never taken out a loan on line i mean common do i look that stupid to you lol but he said i had to pay 600 to day or else i laughed and hung up on him lmao but after that i contacted the fbi here in oklahoma and they already have reports on these low lifes lol so if you recive a phone call contact them asap...... These guys will claim to do anything to get paid including threatening yours or your familys lives to scare you into paying up. DONT DO IT..... They have earned millions off of this scam and plan to earn more they have your social security number and all info on you contact the authorities immediately if they tell you your social and then ask them what loan company this came from google it and i am willing to bet its non existant
****Fallen Angel
they tried to get me too
Well today i was also contacted by a (officer)sam smith (i laughed when he said who he was) cause right then i knew that it was a scam. cause ive never taken out a loan on line i mean common do i look that stupid to you lol but he said i had to pay 600 to day or else i laughed and hung up on him lmao but after that i contacted the fbi here in oklahoma and they already have reports on these low lifes lol so if you recive a phone call contact them asap...... These guys will claim to do anything to get paid including threatening yours or your familys lives to scare you into paying up. DONT DO IT..... They have earned millions off of this scam and plan to earn more they have your social security number and all info on you contact the authorities immediately if they tell you your social and then ask them what loan company this came from google it and i am willing to bet its non existant
****Fallen Angel
Okay this company is still calling me. 7 times this morning. I
Okay this company is still calling me. 7 times this morning. I hung up on them. "Officer Sean Baker" called back and asked for Human Resources, so I took the call. He told a long story about how I had borrowed money and were going to file a case on me and use the company's information, and told me (thinking I was the human resources person) that they are 4 criminal charges filed against me and the cops will be coming to the office to arrest me.
I have already filed complaints with the police and the FBI, and the Attorney General's office. I cannot have these idiots calling my office and spouting this crap to my bosses! What else can I do?
Oh, he also told "Human Resources" a whole story about how I had
Oh, he also told "Human Resources" a whole story about how I had used the company's name & information to borrow money and how they were goign to send people to my office, and it would create a "big public scandal" for my employer.
Fortunately our receptionist caught onto this and let me take the call. But what if this happens again and I'm not here, or someoen else answer the phone? I am very concerned about this as it is now threatening my job.
I am thinking of faxing this letter to them, but not sure if wou
I am thinking of faxing this letter to them, but not sure if would only stir up more trouble:
This letter is to advise your company that you must IMMEDIATELY cease all contact with xxxxx at her home and place of business. This is per the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, under United States Law. You must immediately cease and desist all communications with xxxxx and her employers, relatives, friends, and references, or face serious legal consequences.
You are required to provide mailed, via the United States Postal Service, legal proof that xxxxx owes the debt you claim, under the Federal Debt Collection Practices Act, as this debt is being disputed and will not be paid until written proof is provided via the USPS. xxxxx has verbally requested proof of this debt via telephone, and has recorded evidence of this, but it was illegally refused by your company.
This is also to advise you that xxxxx has recorded all telephone calls and contacts made to her by your company (including those making illegal threats of arrest and public embarassment), and has filed reports with the Texas State Attorney General???s Office, xxxxx County Sheriff???s Department, xxxxx Police Department, Interpol, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Federal Trade Commission. There have also been calls placed to her employer???s Human Resources Department, with her debt being discussed illegally with a third party, and threats of arrest and ???public scandal??? made, as well as threats against her employer. This recording has also been turned over to the forelisted agencies.
This letter also serves as revocation of all voluntary wage assignments. Wage garnishment is not legal in the state of Texas for the collection of unsecured debts, so do not attempt to garnish or assign her wages or you will face serious legal consequences.
A copy of this letter is being forwarded to xxxxx???s employer, her attorneys, the FBI, Sheriff???s office, Interpol, Police Department, and the Attorney General.
PAY DUE ATTENTION TO THIS LETTER OR ELSE ONLY GOD CAN HELP YOU.
Office Shawn Baker
This jerk, Office Shawn Baker with the United Stated Crime Suspect Department has been calling me as well. I have received 2 calls from him today on my cell phone. My ss# and bank information got into these scam artists hands because I was interested in a payday loan this time last year, but never actually received one. Shawn Baker claimed that he was looking right at my bank statement for the proof of deposit, and when I asked what the date was, he just started to run down the threats. This is a huge load of crap! My father is an attorney, and I will be doing my research tonight on how to start this law suit. I will not answer the phone anymore without my recorder on. I'll let u know what I find out this week...
same stuff
pm burk can i use that letter as well?
i acctually think it might do some good they went asfar as calling my mother and threatening her lastnight
when will it all end
These people need to be stopped. I hope you actually did report
These people need to be stopped. I hope you actually did report these scum and I hope you did tape those calls. I have heard of people losing their jobs over this type of behavior and it is very chilling..because they do it for precisely that reason!
I am lucky..I had one CA call me and tel me they were going to harass my husband's place of employment if we didn't immediately pay....I told them to go right ahead. But my husband works for the state prison, so you can see any type of harassment would be met with swift justice..but so many people are not in that type of situation and are in real danger of losing their jobs.
Something needs to be done.
Well, this time "Officer Jack Brown" called me today at my offic
Well, this time "Officer Jack Brown" called me today at my office from # 631-409-8424, ext 1042. He read this long list of how they are pursuing me "in regard to 2 serious allegations. The first one is violation of federal banking regulations, and the second is collateral check fraud. Internet fraud deception. You were monitored going to websites and using your email address you have received funds to your Bank of America account number xxxx." Okay, I've NEVER had a Bank of america account! Idiots. He said I would be "processed" and was giving me one more chance. I said "Go ahead." He said, "Have you evern been picked up? Because that is what is going to happen." Again I told him go ahead. He said, "So you are refusing to pay?" I said, "YES." He said "Ok, nice talking to you."
I'm actually a little nervous now, wondering if they are goign to send some kind of thug to my office to break my legs or somethign.
Dude, I work in at a business where a guy used to work and that'
Dude, I work in at a business where a guy used to work and that's who they keep callin for. I called them back today, and pretended to be this guy...they had his FULL SSN, his bank account #, his e-mail address, and they rattled all this off to me as if it was nothing. He told me I would be arrested by cops if I didn't pay $895, and he was downloading my warrent if I didn't pay by tomorrow. I fed the guy a line of bull for about 20 minutes before he finally hung up on me. I called back, and he had stepped out of his office to go visit, and I quote, "The attorney general's cabin"...
Good lord, these guys just don't quit!!! ANOTHER call today:
Good lord, these guys just don't quit!!! ANOTHER call today:
"USCSD has been hired by the Attorney General of your state and your Sheriff's department and is pursuing you and holding your SSN in regards to some serious allegations. The first one i violation fo federal banking regulations, collateral check fraud, breach of contract, and theft by deception. These allegations stem from the fact that your internet address was used for fraud and deception, and the funds were deposited into your Bank of America account (an account I've NEVER had). It was clearly mentioned that the company was not liable to send you any type of written documentation or anything validating this debt. This is to notify you for the final time before the case file gets downloaded in your state." LOL! Then he went on to ask me if I'd ever been arrested, had my wages garnished, etc. When he finally got done, he said, "You are left with 2 options. You can pay this and settle the matter outside of court, or you can say no and I will proceed with legal action." I told him I would not pay. He sat there for a minute and said, "So you are telling me you refuse to pay this?" I said "YEP" and started laughing. Then idiot says, "You will get a call from the sheriff's department with your arrest warrant number." I laughed really hard, and he hung up.
Idiots!!!!!
TRY THIS....
Look up the telephone number of the FBI in your area...next time they call, just kindly tell them that, if they didn't mind, you would appreciate them calling you at work between the hours of 10:00 am and 5:00 pm, and here's the tel #
one of the above posters mentioned that they knew "I had used th
one of the above posters mentioned that they knew "I had used the company's name & information to borrow money" ... technically if you are using your work computer/email/fax/phone etc to deal with personal issues, your employer CAN become involved due to breach of company policies. I knew a girl that worked in another office who was fired for doing personal stuff at work, even though it was on her breaks or before or after work. The ISP was traced back to her employer, and therefore the company got involved. It was a pretty big mess and has brought some new rules into the workplace.
united national legal depatment is not a scam
i had received a call in afternoon from office mark Willson and he told that he is calling from united state crime suspect department ,
he was having all my personal information my social no my address and everything ..and they their is a case file on my name ,,then after that i told i will give a call back to them ,then after that i tried to find in internet about this legal department by putting organisation name i.e united state crime suspect department and shows over their that its like a scam so i had taken lightly about this case ,,but after 10 day i had received a notice from the court and due to this my crap i had paid 2000 $ over their ,,,So i suggest you don t take this lightly they are not a scam ,,they are true officer
And do you work for this company Blake? Because what you just w
And do you work for this company Blake? Because what you just wrote is so full of BS I can smell it thru my monitor
I am sorry but I am having a real hard time swallowing this one!
I am sorry but I am having a real hard time swallowing this one!
Suprised he didn't say that the police came to his work and "fro
Suprised he didn't say that the police came to his work and "frogmarched" him past his co-workers in handcuffs
United Crime Suspect Department
I received 2 calls today from an Indian speaking man claiming that if I did not contact him immediately (or have my attorney contact him), something very bad was going to happen to my job or my home! He stated this was a criminal matter (which I know is not true). I called the FTC and they were useless. I called the NC Attorney General's Office and a man yelled at me and said that "THEY ARE CALLING FROM INDIA WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO"! Once again, useless. I then called my local police department and a wonderful officer kept calling this man until he got him on the phone. He advised him that I had filed a fraud report and that he had better not call me again. The man assured him that he would not (we will see). Thank you officer for doing a job that you did not have to do, while our elected officials "cannot help".
American Express has even outsourced their collections to India
American Express has even outsourced their collections to India now. They have at least proven to be professionl so far.
I have been getting the same calls
i have been recieving phone calls from India from a Robin Williams. He left me a message saying that i need to get back to him in timely matter or there will be consquences towards me. he left me the number from San francisco on my cell phone. i call back that number and ironic it was busy. He left me a another contact number with area code starting with 201. I could not understand him on the message so i deleted it. But I have had several calls. I am a victim from the Ellis Crosby case as well. Lucky i have a lawyer friend and she got on the phone with them and chewed them out. Saying to quit calling my client and speak proper english and if you are practicing business in the US then follow the guidelines. The phone calls stop but they dont i just ignore them. Ihave filed many complaints to State Attorney and FTC and local police. I am getting so tired of it. I am ready to go to the local news and say something.
Robin williams from India? heeee-heeee you're kidding right?????
Robin williams from India? heeee-heeee you're kidding right??????????????
This is hilarious! I especially love the post from Blake William
This is hilarious! I especially love the post from Blake William, who is clearly works for these people. The post sounds just like the type of messages they leave!
Today, February 12 - another call on my voicemail, this time from "Officer Tony Wilson." ROFL.
My advice from having deal with them is to ignore them as much as you can. If they DO happen to get you on the phone (which has happened to me here at work), I just listen, let them finish their little story, then when they say they are going to download me/arrest me/whatever, I just say, "Go ahead." They then ask if you are refusing to pay, tell them YES. Then they hang up on you, usually telling you someone will be there to arrest you within 15 minutes. I've done this to them the past 10 or so times they've called. It works and gee, I haven't been arrested yet!
i just got one of those calls.. Yeah i had a pay day loan but i
i just got one of those calls.. Yeah i had a pay day loan but i repaid it and so much over because they over draft my account after i got my tax refund. I feel like i don't owe then sheit.... Anyway James White from the UNITED STATES CRIME SUSPECT DEPT said i would be arrested in 20 minutes because i told him that women in the US are not yelled at and he was not in INDIA>
Scam
I have received the same phone call from these A** H#**s the name he left is Jim White Law Office of United States Crime Suspect Dept. The exact same verbage above was recited to my answering machine, and the phone number 904-425-7345 is left to call. DO NOT PAY THESE IDIOTS ANYTHING. This is a scam. I may have by Husband call back this a** h**e and scare the hell out of him..... I hope that they are caught, and leave people alone.