BEWARE!!! Be Very AWARE!

fatcat, another thing to look into is star cash processing - their address is known as 2531 P St. NW, Miami, OK 74354 so it is very similar. the post office webpage says there is no such address and i looked it up on mapquest and did an ariel view (lol, yes i really did..) and there is nothing but land there. there are two pretty large threads concerning this company, they keep depositing money into accounts without people asking or sending contracts. the BBB has nothing on them.

Yes, the BBB knows what is going on with these companies. That is where I got the above information.

http://www.bbb.org/tulsa/business-reviews/loans/usfastcash-in-miami-ok-38001814

nah i meant they have nothing on star cash :(

bea2ls, I looked up a couple of PDL addresses on google earth myself; don't know how old the photos are, but in many cases it appeared there was nothing at that address or maybe a gas station or fast food place. Wonder what gives? Is it possible that addresses on Indian land are being "rented out" when there's not actually anything on that property?

thanks, pachacutec :) at least i now know i am not crazy! :lol:
i agree that perhaps the addresses are being rented out, wouldn't that mean the tribes do not own the companies?

I believe that you get a really old picture of the address unless you pay for the subscription. If I search my home, it is a picture that is atleast 4 yrs old, based on vehicles in driveways, and is in the winter or early spring, based on snow.

i think it depends on the location because when i checked my address, i saw my neighbor's new car which they have gotten quite recently (within a few months). either way, the united state's post office webpage says no such address.

I checked my address on google earth and I know it was within the past year the picture was taken.

bea2ls, I don't know how that works, re. "renting" addresses; guess it depends on the terms of the contract, whether the right to use a tribal address means that the tribe can own a certain percentage of the company or what. However if it's just a matter of renting the address and otherwise having nothing to do with the company, I would think (here again, don't know) that the PDL could be held accountable by Federal/State laws.

thanks :) this company attempted to deposit into an old closed account (the one i had payday loans out of last year). the bank refused the deposit and alerted me because the account was on fraud watch. i no longer bank there and have not applied for a loan in over a year.. but now they are harrassing me to pay it back. :roll:
i just do not understand if they are legally doing this, it is obviously a scam..

My nephew works for the miami nations indian tribe and all of the companies are owned by the tribe. I have a pdl with untied cash loans and I just send my payment to work with him. He said the pdl are ran in the back of one of the indian smoke shops.

Yes Guest that is what some people are telling me too....that the PDLs are ran out of the back of the indian smoke shops.

We live in Missouri and go to Miami often, so I am going to check out the addresses the next time we go. People are telling me that if you go to the smoke shop and ask about a PDL the employees are told to say "what is a PDL" or pretend they know nothing about it.

The Oklahoma gaming commission is looking into the indian gambling establishments because they are supposed to be running some of the PDL companies within the c a s i n o s.

i do not get this, it still seems wrong. i sent a certified letter to star, i will let you know if it gets back.. either way i do not know about the company i mentioned. i know they have a call center somewhere.. star did not mention they were part of the tribes, i am only guessing because of the similar addresses.

re that unauthorized deposit into your account which the bank refused; do you have any kind of documentation from the bank that it was 'sent back' to whoever made the deposit? I don't know how much good it would do, but perhaps if you had written documentation from the bank that the deposit didn't go through, you could send it to the PDL.

i do not have anything, i do bank anymore there, they just let me know. i did send them a certified letter, i am trying to avoid speaking to them on the phone :( i think someone else from them is calling me lately, i have been all of these crazy phone numbers.. it is so frustrating.