Settle one but not the others?
Date: Tue, 02/16/2010 - 21:04
We have been juggling our debt for years and have finally reached the end. I'm looking for debt settlement of a BofA account. We have credit debt from:
BofA: $45,000
CapOne: $12,000
CapOne: $12,000
Chase: $4,000
With family help, we've been able to cover the (horrifying) ~$1,300 per month in min. payments, but I missed our BofA payment early this month when help ended.
I could go on and on, but my main question is this: If I stop paying BofA only, will this prevent us from settling? Won't they look at our credit report after a few months and notice they're the only ones we're not paying? After reading about CapOne on this board, I'm *very* reluctant to miss a payment with them. Chase I'm less worried about.
It would be tight, but we could live like paupers for a few years and pay the others once BofA has been eliminated. Besides, settling on one has already been stressful enough (after 2 weeks! Gah!); I can't imagine quadrupling the agony...
Any suggestions?
Thanks again to all who have (and will?) help!
hello Glurg, you are right with your first settlement, definite
hello Glurg,
you are right with your first settlement, definitely nip that B of A in the butt first, if it is a personal credit card, try at 180 days late for a 15-20% lately they are stamped with a thresh hold from upper management, usually around 22-25-sometimes even 30% i would figure a debt of that size hopefully they would give you a low settlement at 20%, they used to go as low on personal debts to 15% but i dont see that much anymore.
if if its a business B of A i would definitely try for a 10% but ive been seeing more 15% than 10% lately.
NOW capital one, these cards capital one will not settle till after 210 days, after they charge off you would be dealing with the recovery unit and me being in debt settlement they dont give us anything lower than 50%, with that being said they will however give you 3 payments starting the first payment in the next 2 months, if you do the math its more like 5 payments but the settlement letter will actually say 3 starting 2 months ahead, odd i know.
also if you capital one accounts go to a collection agency you can most likley get a settlement as low as 20-25-30% sometimes with payments too, its a gamble sometimes to really save money. most people do the gamble to save.
chase this one is the smallest one you have, so its not the most important out of the rest BUT you might be able to get a good settlement directly with chase maybe 25-35% in 4 payments. i do know that if a settlement company send over a power of attorney to chase to speak on your behalf, they will then forward your debt over to a collection agency called IC Systems, they are giving settlement companies 20% as of the end of January.
if i can help you in any way please feel free to call me
glurg, sorry sometimes i can go on forever with this industry
glurg,
sorry sometimes i can go on forever with this industry but i forget peoples main questions.
the answer to you question though is yes you can just settle one and pay on the other, keep in mind if they view your situation they might notice this and try to use this against you in the line of negotiations, i would simply tell them that after you settle with them you are going to go late on the others and you cant do all this at once.
Stop posting your cell phone number and the name of your website, I will keep removing them each time I locate it in your post.
I can tell you for certain that they look at my cr as I speak wi
I can tell you for certain that they look at my cr as I speak with them. Amex balked at going less than 35% b/c I had paid off a boa card just a year ago so they thought I could do the same with them. I had to explain that was a one-time windfall from sale of property that got me the $$ to pay them off. But the uglier your cr is, the easier it is to settle, IMO. Good Luck.
Quote:Originally Posted by Anonymoushello Glurg, chase this one
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Originally Posted by Anonymous hello Glurg, chase this one is the smallest one you have, so its not the most important out of the rest BUT you might be able to get a good settlement directly with chase maybe 25-35% in 4 payments. i do know that if a settlement company send over a power of attorney to chase to speak on your behalf, they will then forward your debt over to a collection agency called IC Systems, they are giving settlement companies 20% as of the end of January. |
RIOT,
Why would Chase settle with a SC for 20%, but not with an individual? Sometimes, what OCs do doesn't make sense. I think it would still work out close to the same $ for the individual to DIY, because of the fees charged by the SC to handle the debt. I calculated if I would settle my acct for 35% vs. paying a SC to handle it and get a 20% settlement; I would be paying about the same amount. From everything I have read on this forum; 35% seems very doable with Chase.
Quote:Originally Posted by Anonymousglurg, sorry sometimes i c
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Originally Posted by Anonymous glurg, sorry sometimes i can go on forever with this industry but i forget peoples main questions. the answer to you question though is yes you can just settle one and pay on the other, keep in mind if they view your situation they might notice this and try to use this against you in the line of negotiations, i would simply tell them that after you settle with them you are going to go late on the others and you cant do all this at once. aka RIOT 805-233-4031 cell |
Hmmm...thanks for the info.
I may end up defaulting on CapOne anyway...I just found out TODAY that they raised my interest rate from 5.9% to 15.9%, doubling my monthly payment. Sweethearts. On one hand, this makes my life harder to make the payments. On the bright side, I can always complain to BofA in my eventual negotiations with them.
Quote:Originally Posted by danothemanoI can tell you for certain
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Originally Posted by danothemano I can tell you for certain that they look at my cr as I speak with them. Amex balked at going less than 35% b/c I had paid off a boa card just a year ago so they thought I could do the same with them. I had to explain that was a one-time windfall from sale of property that got me the $$ to pay them off. But the uglier your cr is, the easier it is to settle, IMO. Good Luck. |
This is sort of what I'm afraid of. Up until I missed this BofA payment, I'd never missed a payment on anything. Of course, that meant I had to borrow ever more money to keep that up...
BofA wants me to call a DMP outfit. No idea who they are, they just gave me the phone number. I'm pretty convinced, thanks to this site, that a DMP will actually result in *higher* monthly payments for us and won't get us any closer. So now I have to determine whether or not I want to play along with BofA to show good faith--ultimately, I'm aiming for a settlement and I think going down the DMP path is a waste of time.
Quote:Originally Posted by AnonymousRIOT, Why would Chase settl
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Originally Posted by Anonymous RIOT, Why would Chase settle with a SC for 20%, but not with an individual? Sometimes, what OCs do doesn't make sense. I think it would still work out close to the same $ for the individual to DIY, because of the fees charged by the SC to handle the debt. I calculated if I would settle my acct for 35% vs. paying a SC to handle it and get a 20% settlement; I would be paying about the same amount. From everything I have read on this forum; 35% seems very doable with Chase. |
I dont know honestly it makes no sense about Chase, well it kind of does, they want all your money, that being said though, its not chase its chases new hired collection agency they are using for all clients that are with a settlement company, if the client isnt with a settlement company the debt wouldnt ever make it to IC Systems, the power of attorney is what causes it to go there.
hope this helps a bit
info to help & info to know
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Originally Posted by Anonymous Hmmm...thanks for the info. I may end up defaulting on CapOne anyway...I just found out TODAY that they raised my interest rate from 5.9% to 15.9%, doubling my monthly payment. Sweethearts. On one hand, this makes my life harder to make the payments. On the bright side, I can always complain to BofA in my eventual negotiations with them. |
isnt this great one company jacks up the interest, then another company does then they all do, causing people to not be able to afford paying the mins, the mins is what they want from you, theyd rather you pay mins instead of paying them off.
it blows my mind that these credit card companies cant come together and say " hey we are all jacking up peoples interest causing clients to not pay, lets leave it be and collect the mins like we want" then they are mad when you settle or file BK.
credit card banks are really really stupid, people will find this out when they talk to the low IQ reps they deal with on the phone.
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hello Bill,
My name is also William aka Bill, you gave a good pitch there but you dont have info or knowledge to go with it,
is 55% with fees included ? or is that what you usually settle at ?
I have been settling debts for 7years and settling around 1/2 million of inflated debt at an average of 30% given some of these are 60% and most are under 30% some as low as 9% or 10% at the end of each month my average once AVERAGE is 30%, my new company i will be opening is going to be charging a 10% fee based off of the original balance once the specific account is settled or to make myself clear when the deal has been oked by the client. not all upfront fees like most company that DONT settle debts or if they do they just bring some crappy deal to them showing they did some work.
keep in mind i havent a clue of how your company works so im not passing judgement but i do know my knowledge, aggressiveness and low cost can not be beaten. i take very much pride in getting people out of debt trying to get clients to pay nothing which is super rare but hopefully you get what im trying to do.
I am going to keep two cards current while negotiating 5 other c
I am going to keep two cards current while negotiating 5 other cards. I will probably let these other 2 cards go, but I am going to try and keep them current in hopes to help re build our credit. Is this a good or bad idea? I am getting mixed messages from everyone. Creditors might get mad that I am paying some and not them...please make this really clear for me if you can. Thx.
Quote:Originally Posted by luckin10I am going to keep two cards
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Originally Posted by luckin10 I am going to keep two cards current while negotiating 5 other cards. I will probably let these other 2 cards go, but I am going to try and keep them current in hopes to help re build our credit. Is this a good or bad idea? I am getting mixed messages from everyone. Creditors might get mad that I am paying some and not them...please make this really clear for me if you can. Thx. |
hello luckin,
I would assume eventually they will cut those credit cards off soon too or even worse raise the interest causing you to settle, these credit cards companies arent bright
example: i had bought a home in CA at THE WORST TIME ever, i should have never bought it. after 2 years of living in it i decided on letting it go, i also had a BofA credit card that i literally paid off in FULL every month, one day i went to use it and it didnt work, luckily i was going to pay it off the next day and i called them before i did and told them the true honest facts, look at my history, i pay it off every month, they saw this also, but they wouldnt turn it back on.
the BofA debt was around 2800 and it went up to i think over 3k at 180 days late i settled it at 600 bucks. point being: they should have left my credit card open, they are stupid.
My chase credit cards are all with IC systems and I am not with
My chase credit cards are all with IC systems and I am not with a settlement company. Is there a reason for this? Will it be easier to settle with them than with Chase. I am currently about 115 days late.
Quote:Originally Posted by AnonymousThis is sort of what I'm afr
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Originally Posted by Anonymous This is sort of what I'm afraid of. Up until I missed this BofA payment, I'd never missed a payment on anything. Of course, that meant I had to borrow ever more money to keep that up... BofA wants me to call a DMP outfit. No idea who they are, they just gave me the phone number. I'm pretty convinced, thanks to this site, that a DMP will actually result in *higher* monthly payments for us and won't get us any closer. So now I have to determine whether or not I want to play along with BofA to show good faith--ultimately, I'm aiming for a settlement and I think going down the DMP path is a waste of time. |
BOA made me call DMP company also. I called, it was Greenpath and they could not help me. You could call, or next time you talk with BOA tell them you contacted the company and they could not help. That is what I did and settled later for 20-25%.
I have been trying to settle with Citibank my self for 30% they
I have been trying to settle with Citibank my self for 30% they will only do 45%. we owe approx 54,000. What got me started isI received a call from them about three weeks ago and it was the person on the phone who talked to me about settlement. He asked if I could come up with 30% I said it would be very hard but would be worth it for me to barrow from family to get out of this nightmare. He said I would would receive the settlment in a week. Three weeks went by and I received another call from Citibank and they said there wasn't a settlement or notes in the system for a settlement and the only amount they would settle for is 45%. I told them I do not have that I was streching to come up with the 30%. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I would start a new thread on this..this is just going to get lo
I would start a new thread on this..this is just going to get lost in this subject in my opinion. There are alot of people on here that have settled with Citibank from what I have read. I do not have a card with them, but I want you to be able to get help. Just a suggestion..