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Storefront PDL's Ohio

Date: Sun, 05/02/2010 - 12:37

Submitted by anonymous
on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 12:37

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We have 4 PDL's in Ohio. National Cash Advance, Ace Cash Express, Checksmart. With Ohio's new laws what are they following. One gave is 800.00..I thought they could only do 500.00 now?

Is there anyway to default without losing our bank account? How many times will they send the check / ACH through?

I know on one at least I can revoke ACH, but the ones with actual checks I'm not sure how to stop that.


Checksmart seems to be the only member of the CFSA (Community Financial Services Association of America), this means you would be eligible for an EPP (extended payment plan), how that works is at the link below, there is also a link showing the members of the CFSA, you may want to call and ask the lenders not listed if they are members of the CFSA, because if they are, you would be eligible for EPP with all of them.
http://www.cfsa.net/MemberList.aspx
http://www.cfsa.net/public_education_campaign/guidelines/guidelines_extended_payment_plans.html


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 12:53

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A payday loan limit is $500.00, however, you need to take another look at the contracts because some of these lenders may be operating as CSO's (Credit Service Organizations), if they are it means the sky is the limit, including the interest, unfortunately, therefore you REALLY need to make SOME type of payment arrangements with them. If they are auto debiting from your account you CAN revoke their right to debit your account BUT, you will then need to make payments some other way. Revoking ACH's is your right, the law regarding preauthorized transfers is below:
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Electronic Funds Transfer Act
907. Preauthorized transfers
(a) A preauthorized electronic fund transfer from a consumer's account may be authorized by the consumer only in writing, and a copy of such authorization shall be provided to the consumer when made. A consumer may stop payment of a preauthorized electronic fund transfer by notifying the financial institution orally or in writing at any time up to three business days preceding the scheduled date of such transfer. The financial institution may require written confirmation to be provided to it within fourteen days of an oral notification if, when the oral notification is made, the consumer is advised of such requirement and the address to which such confirmation should be sent.
(b) In the case of preauthorized transfers from a consumer's account to the same person which may vary in amount, the financial institution or designated payee shall, prior to each transfer, provide reasonable advance notice to the consumer, in accordance with regulations of the Board, of the amount to be transferred and the scheduled date of the transfer.
[Codified to 15 U.S.C. 1693e]
[Source: Section 907 of title IX of the Act of May 29, 1968 (Pub. L. No. 90-321), as added by title XX of the Act of November 10, 1978 (Pub. L. No. 95-630; 92 Stat. 3733), effective May 10, 1980]

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lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 12:58

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Originally Posted by Shazzers
By the way, you only named three pdl's.

I know I forgot the 4th! It's Cashland. I'm just trying to find someway to make payday easier. Unfortunately I can't pay even 1/4th of the balance on all of these...it would be over 500 every 2 weeks. SO I am trying to pay at least one off and trying to lower the other 3. National Cash Advance only has an ACH authorization so I thought maybe I could revoke that and then start sending them money when I get the other 3 taken care of.
We use a credit union affiliated with my husbands work and really don't want to lose the account!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 13:55

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Originally Posted by Shazzers
A payday loan limit is $500.00, however, you need to take another look at the contracts because some of these lenders may be operating as CSO's (Credit Service Organizations), if they are it means the sky is the limit, including the interest, unfortunately, therefore you REALLY need to make SOME type of payment arrangements with them. If they are auto debiting from your account you CAN revoke their right to debit your account BUT, you will then need to make payments some other way. Revoking ACH's is your right, the law regarding preauthorized transfers is below:


I looked up the licensing and its strange because none of them are listed as CSO or short term loans, they are listed as Check Cashing and SECOND MORTGAGE BRANCH OFFICE. So does the loan limit still apply to them?

I'm just looking for leverage to get them to agree to some type of payment plan, something longer than 4 pay periods....


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 13:59

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[QUOTE=Shazzers;693518]Checksmart seems to be the only member of the CFSA (Community Financial Services Association of America), this means you would be eligible for an EPP (extended payment plan), how that works is at the link below, there is also a link showing the members of the CFSA, you may want to call and ask the lenders not listed if they are members of the CFSA, because if they are, you would be eligible for EPP with all of them.
http://www.cfsa.net/MemberList.aspx
http://www.cfsa.net/public_education_campaign/guidelines/guidelines_extended_payment_plans.html[/QUOTE]

I think the only one that isn't listed as a member is Ace Cash..the others I was able to find find the CFSA logo on their webpages. I would have to pick and choose who to do EPP with..they payment over 4 pay periods would be huge. Maybe if I can get the 800.00 paid down.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:02

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I have inquired about the EPP (extended payment plan) with several storefronts including the ones you mentioned and I was told they no longer off extended payment plans due to the new ohio laws and because they are no longer payday loan companies - they operate under 'mortgage loan act'. I do know that cashland will work with you on an extended payment plan after it goes to their collection office.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:31

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have inquired about the EPP (extended payment plan) with several storefronts including the ones you mentioned and I was told they no longer off extended payment plans due to the new ohio laws and because they are no longer payday loan companies - they operate under 'mortgage loan act'. I do know that cashland will work with you on an extended payment plan after it goes to their collection office.


Thanks Lisa,
I wondered about that too. I don't get how they can operate under the mortgage loan act when they didn't give me a mortgage...I thought that was only in real estate??

I think we are just going to try to pay them off. I don't want to risk my bank account. I just need to find a good way to budget this!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 20:42

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[QUOTE=Anonymous;693637]Thanks Lisa,
I wondered about that too. I don't get how they can operate under the mortgage loan act when they didn't give me a mortgage...I thought that was only in real estate??

I think we are just going to try to pay them off. I don't want to risk my bank account. I just need to find a good way to budget this![/QUOTE]

Because that is how the state told them to operate when the laws changed.


lrhall41

Submitted by PDLOwner on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:19

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