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Date: Wed, 06/02/2010 - 14:40

Submitted by anonymous
on Wed, 06/02/2010 - 14:40

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2 Weeks of Hell

On May 13 my wife received a phone call at home from Brandy at NRC stating I have a past due balance with a pay day loan company. She then wanted my contact information. My wife immediately called me and I called Brandy back within a few minutes. She expressed that I owed $750 but they were willing to settle for $350 and they needed to make arrangements right then and there. I asked her for proof of the loan and she told me I would need to contact my bank. I explained I closed the bank account 3 years ago and have no way of getting that information. (Never read the mini Miranda) I told here I would call her back. I called her back the next business day. Once again the never read the mini Miranda. I also received an email saying I owed money but never explained the debt that I owed. I was feeling bullied and I went ahead and post dated the settlement for the 28th. They tried to run it the very next day and I received a phone call stating that my payment did not go through. I remember our original conversation and I told here I wanted the money debited on the 31 but she said no because it was a holiday so she would deducted it on the 28th. Anyway I reminded her of the conversation we had and she said she did not recall having but she went ahead and set up the payment. This was 2 weeks away and something was not sitting right with me. I called the original debtor and they said the loan was for $300 and was sold. This loan is over 3 years old and it was from May of 2007. I made sure the money was not in the account for them to debit. Never once did they read me the mini Miranda and prove to me what was added on to the charges. They tried to deduct the money and I received a very nasty phone call. 1st they tried to deduct 400.87 not the $350 I was verbally told in the settlement. She told me this was for the 2 accounts I had with them as well as the service fees. I was only notified of the one account. When I began to ask questions of Brandy she became extremely upset and had me speak with Mike Powell. This guy was the meanest jerk I have ever spoken with in my life. He tried everything in his power to bully me into making the payment by the end of the business day or he would ???Prosecute??? I simply wanted an explanation of the extra charges of why a $300 PDL was costing me $750 or $400 to settle. I asked him about reading the mini Miranda and his reply was ???Are you kidding me???? He also stated that he needed to get the money over to his client tonight. (They own the debt they are the client). I was quite upset and began yelling as well. I asked him if I could see paperwork from the original debtor or speak with them and his reply ???Not going to happen.??? I was threatened to be sued. When we both realized that the yelling match ???phone call??? was not going anywhere he ended the call by reading my mini Miranda and then followed up with ???you do understand what the means???? I immediately called the original debtor and found out they the sold the debt off and the original loan was for $300 and I had paid interest on it several times. I admit I most likely owe them money but there were way to many red flags here. This morning I sent a letter via email and fax to the company as well as directly to Mike Powell stating

This is not a request for "verification" or proof of my mailing address, but a request for Validation of Debt made pursuant to the above Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you.

Please provide me with the following:

1. What the money you say I owe is for
2. Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe
3. Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe
4. Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable
5. Identify the original creditor
6. Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account
7. Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
8. Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent

Also asking all phone calls to myself and place of employment stop immediately. Any other suggestions. I have paid several PDL???s loans off but something is not sitting right with this company. Also I have 30 days to contest the debt correct?


You can use the sample letters available in the site.

Now, who was your lender? I guess is that they were unlicensed in your state. Often unlicensed lenders hire collection agencies to pursue defaulted debtors and report the collection on their credit report to damage their score, since they can't do it themselves.

- How much did you borrowed originally?
- Which state are you in?
- Who is your lender? Was it licensed in your state?
- How much have you repaid so far?


Also, have you recorded any of the threatening calls made by the collector?


lrhall41

Submitted by SC on Thu, 06/03/2010 - 03:01

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-$300 was originally borrowed
-I am in Arizona
-The lender was Authorized Payday
-This was over 3 years ago and I no longer have the checking account but I am sure at least 3 interest payments of $70 each was withdrawn from my account.

I have not recorded any calls yet and I never knew they were going to be so demanding and rude. I have dealt with different collection agencies in the past and they were always willing to work out an arrangement or at the very least provide me with proof and answers to my questions. This company is just ridiculous. I already sent them the following letter.

To whom it may concern:


This letter is being sent to you in response to a notice sent to me dated _________Please be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.

This is not a request for "verification" or proof of my mailing address, but a request for Validation of Debt made pursuant to the above Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you.

Please provide me with the following:

1. What the money you say I owe is for
2. Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe
3. Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe
4. Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable
5. Identify the original creditor
6. Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account
7. Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
8. Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent

At this time I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major credit Bureaus (Equifax, Experion or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent, I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following:

1. Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act-reporting inaccurate information
2. Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act-continuing collection activity on a debt which has not been validated

Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes listing of any information to credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is.

REQUEST FOR CEASE AND DESIST OF CONTACT BY YOUR OFFICE: I would also like to request, in writing, no further contact, either in writing or telephone be made by your office to my home or to my place of employment, unless it is to provide validation or release of liability of the debt.


Thank you,



David Sommers


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 06/03/2010 - 08:17

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