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Date: Sun, 07/25/2010 - 22:44

Submitted by anonymous
on Sun, 07/25/2010 - 22:44

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Hello everyone...
I received a summons today for a debt I owe Capital One (Morgan and Pottinger)- $5000. I don't have the money, or I would have paid the d@mn thing already. My husband and I have been eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches three times a day for a year now. Things are not. good. I have been reading this site, and I'm happy to have people to discuss this with, since I am terrified. Here are a few details about my problem:
1. I stopped paying on my account around January of last year. In June, I got a call from Cap 1's collections department. I set up a payment plan. I paid $100/mo (after making a $460 first payment) I paid them on time until September of last year, when they took $2000 out of my bank account. That stripped me of almost everything I had. I was a student, so I did not have much. I could not continue to make my payments and still eat.
2. For some odd reason, my birth date on the contract is wrong. It's the correct day of the year, wrong year. Will this help me in any way? It IS my debt. But if I can get them to wait a little while longer, I may have the money to pay.
3. I have been paying my other cards since I don't want this to happen again.
4. I do not own anything. I have no assets. I have approx. $35 in my bank account. I own nothing, not even my car. It's in someone else's name. I don't even have a job (or wages to garnish) What is the worst case scenario if they win?
5. What is the first thing I should do? File and answer, send a cease and desist, or DV letter?
I fully intend on appearing in court. However, I have no idea what is going to happen. If they will work out a payment plan with me, I will be fine, but I don't have $5000 or anything close to it.
Thank you to anyone who replies! I need some reassurance.


"They will get a judgement against you...pretty simple. You are not paying as agreed. Capital one"

Dont let this get you down though as for someone in your situation (depending on your state laws) its almost a non issue.

Meaning if you are in the shape you say you are in that you are probably "judgment proof" which should really be called "collection proof" as even with a judgment in hand theres not much they can do to you. For now.

If you manage to improve your situation within the life of their judgment (state specific) then they might be a danger to you. But for now, Id go to court but relax. The judge cant "make" you pay anything in your situation.


lrhall41

Submitted by rown on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 04:26

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there is no such thing as judgment proof. A judgment lasts at least 10 years...they will sit and wait. And it is something to be very concerned with. The OP may not have a job now, but what about in 2 years? 5 years? They mentioned they were a student so they maybe young and might not have entered the job market yet.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 05:17

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Okay, I got my papers today, and it says that my court date is in November, but it doesn't tell me when I need to file an answer. Also, on the first page, it says I owe $4656, but on the third page, it says I owe $5600. What gives?
I am not denying that this is my debt, and I would have no problem paying it, but I have NOTHING right now. I am looking for a job, have interviewed for one, etc. If I get a job, I want to pay this debt. I believe it is the right thing to do. If I get into a better situation before the court date, can I try to negotiate a settlement with them and start paying? Will that stop them from getting a judgment? I just don't want my first employer to have to deal with wage garnishment and such.
Also, can I ask for DV now? Can I send a settlement offer to them? What should I do to prevent judgment? Please don't just tell me I'm screwed. I need advice.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:58

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The higher amount probably includes the court and legal fees.

Responses to a summons usually has to be submitted within 20-30 days. Check with your court clerk.

How can you send them a settlement offer if you dont have anything to settle with. Without cash in hand and a properly validated account, there is no other advise we can give you. There is no magic wand to wave. You have time to get a job...or even two. Get the funds together and try to settle out of court before the court date.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:03

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Thank you! I've been trying to find out if I could do that (settle out of court before the date). The thing is, I can come up with some way of getting this money before November. What should my first step be? Should I send a DV letter? File an answer? How do I get them to waive all those court fees? Do I have to pay the court fees even if I pay before the court date? I'm sorry I am asking so many questions. I have been searching all over the internet trying to find answers, but every site I go to makes it sound so simple, and then they give no detail.
Thank you for your help!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:09

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Hey I had read from another poster that if you defaulted on the card prior to January 2010, your cardholder agreement still has the arbitration clause in it. I would search for those posts and may want to consider electing arbitration.

According to these posters, arbitration costs Cap One around $5000 so unless you owe tons more they just go away or make reasonable arrangements with you.


lrhall41

Submitted by Debt Free to Be on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 05:52

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Hey there, keep your chin up, you have some work to do but don't be discouraged. I'd suggest you take a look at ccarbitrationDOTcom and head over to creditinfocenterdotcom forums, click on Is there a lawyer in the house and then go to the arbitration link. Spend a few hours reading through old posts and the folks can help you figure out the necessary steps to mount an arbitration strategy. Basically, if you read the cap1 cardmember agreement it states that either you or they can elect arbitration to resolve the dispute thereby waiving them out of court. You should seek to have the dispute resovled via JAMS, that is an arbitration forum option in the Cap1 contracts, or at least for you since your default was along time ago. So, do some reading, then once you've figured things out you'll need to get the case kicked outta court and pushed to arbitration. Cap1 contract basically says they'll foot the bill for arbitration, win or lose and each side pays their own atty's fees. Once you have navigated the JAMS rules, you fill out the Jams application, mail it in, and shortly thereafter the business, Cap1 gets a Bill for something like $800, your fee is limited in the contract to maybe 250 but you can seek a hardship waiver and ask Cap1 to pay it. Shortly thereafter, Cap1 will get another Bill for $2000...Remember they can't get that back, so in short order their up to almost 3K with more bills to come from JAMS...This beats a judgment in court anyday, avoids the additional attorney fees, and forces them to either settle for a reasonable amount, or arbitrate and pay the high costs...JAMS total bills can hit 5-10K very quickly...Lastly if you have any claims against them those can be brought as well in Arb...Some people achieve a walk away with both sides agreeing to a mutual dismissal...Sounds like a lot of info but read read read until you get it...I've used this against Cap1 and they voluntarily dismissed the suit...Good Luck


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 10:16

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capital One has seized funds from my bank account, but I never received a court date. I received a judgement about a year ago...and today is when they took action. I contacted them but they say they cant do anything for me. What are my other options to have them release my account from taking my funds?
Thanks


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 07/28/2010 - 11:52

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After reading through the answers posted by the moderator on here, I think it's VERY clear that this site is operated by people on the creditor/collector side of the equation. I hope that anyone who's reading these answers will visit Bud Hibbs' website instead in order to get advice. These people here are nothing but shills for the creditors and collectors.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:52

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