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Date: Sat, 11/27/2010 - 10:48

Submitted by anonymous
on Sat, 11/27/2010 - 10:48

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i resently found out that midland funding as a jugement on me i don't know what thier talking about .i i filed for bankruptcy in 05 .And I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT CAN I DO


You need to call and talk to Midland and find out who what paper they bought and if it was included in your bankruptcy. If it was included and you were not served, you would need to petition the court to have the judgement set aside for improper service and the fact that the debt was included in bankruptcy.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 02:45

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If the debt was included in the bankruptcy and subsequently discharged under the bankruptcy then you cannot be held liable for it. It doesn't matter whether you were served or not. If the debt results from one dismissed in bankruptcy then Midland is hassling you about a debt you have no obligation to pay and they have no right to be able to pursue. If you had an attorney in your bankruptcy case get him to contact Midland. If you had no attorney contact them yourself and send them a copy of the discharge.


lrhall41

Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 21:52

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At this point, the OP will have to go thru the court to have the judgment set aside.

Midland buys debts. If the debt was sold to them and they had no knowledge of the bankruptcy, they technically have not done anything wrong.

Using your bankruptcy attorney at this point will cost you money since your BK is long since closed. Contact the court yourself and submit the petition.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 03:31

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The attorney, if you had one, who handled your bankruptcy for you should assist you in getting this resolved, in fact he has an obligation to help you with these types of concerns. It is possible that the creditor attempting to collect from you will be ordered to pay your attorney's fees in resolving the matter.:o

Here is some more specific information about discharged debts that are for whatever reason still being pursued.

http://longislandbankruptcyblog.com/protecting-your-client-from-creditors-who-ignore-the-discharge/

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What happens when a creditor ignores the discharge and continues to harass a debtor for a pre-petition debt that was discharged? Most abuses can be quickly stopped with a simple letter or phone call. Some recalcitrant creditors will nevertheless ignore the discharge as well as subsequent warnings from debtors??? counsel, and engage in outrageous conduct, requiring court intervention to finally protect the debtor.
When your bankruptcy client???s discharge rights are being violated, it is wise to take some type of protective action. In this column, I will briefly discuss the discharge and what steps a debtor???s attorney can take against creditors who ignore it.



The Bankruptcy Discharge. Bankruptcy Code section 524 (a) (2) provides that a discharge operates as an injunction against the commencement or continuation of an action, the employment of process, or an act to collect, recover or offset any such debt or claim as a personal liability of the Debtor.
The Code very broadly defines ???claim??? to include any right to payment or right to an equitable remedy if such remedy gives rise to a right to payment, whether or not such right is reduced to judgment, liquidated, unliquidated, fixed, contingent, matured, unmatured, disputed, legal, equitable, secured or unsecured. [Code sec. 101 (5)].
Post Petition Collection Suits. Although the C.P.L.R. provides that a bankruptcy discharge is an affirmative defense which must be pleaded, this is an antiquated argument which has been rendered unnecessary and superseded by Bankruptcy Code sec. 524. About thirty years ago, the legislature, intending to fully effectuate the discharge provisions of the new Bankruptcy Code, decided to make the discharge less subject to abuse by harassing creditors.
The discharge automatically voids any judgment at any time obtained to the extent such judgment is a determination of the personal liability of the debtor on a discharged debt. Thus, should a creditor institute suit in a state court after the discharge, and obtain a judgment against the debtor, the judgment is rendered null and void ab initio, even if no affirmative defense was interposed. The purpose of these provisions is to make it absolutely unnecessary for the debtor to do anything at all in the state court action.
The Uninformed 1. Often a creditor will send its file to a collection attorney to commence litigation. However, the creditor does not notify the collection attorney of the bankruptcy, and the collection then commences a suit or obtains a default judgment in an existing suit. If you suspect an uninformed attorney has commenced litigation or taken a judgment, then contacting the other attorney and advising him or her of the bankruptcy should be sufficient to resolve the problem. If a judgment was already obtained, it is the other attorney???s responsibility to vacate it by preparing a stipulation vacating judgment and then filing them in the court.
The Bureaucratic Creditor. Frequently a large credit card company or bank has so many departments, some of which are in different states, that news of the bankruptcy filing does not reach all channels. Thus, it is not uncommon for a debtor to continue to receive collection letters and collection calls long after the petition is filed. It is usually simple to put a quick stop to this kind of activity by merely informing the creditor that a bankruptcy was filed and by providing the creditor with the filing information.
The Ignorant Collection Attorney. Some attorneys simply do not have sufficient knowledge of the Bankruptcy Code and the effects of filing for bankruptcy. They may be unaware of the effects of the automatic stay and discharge. Usually, telephoning these attorneys and diplomatically advising them of the provisions of the bankruptcy Code is sufficient to educate them that their litigation actions are improper.
Remember That Some Debts are Non-Dischargeable. Some debts are excepted from discharge regardless of whether a creditor seeks a determination of dischargeability. These debts include, among others, most taxes and obligations to governmental entities, maintenance and support, student loans, and debts for certain condominium or co-op expenses. Accordingly, the order of discharge will not bar these types of creditors.
Extreme Discharge Violations. There are always some creditors or attorneys who will remain ignorant, stubborn, thick-headed and arrogant, and who will disregard your repeated letters that they are violating the very sanctity of the bankruptcy process by continuing to litigate in violation of the order of discharge. At this point, it may be necessary to haul them into bankruptcy court. Should a creditor violate the provisions of the discharge order, the creditor will also have violated the bankruptcy court injunction against collection efforts. The creditor will thus be subject to citation for contempt in the bankruptcy court upon application of the debtor.
When creditors receive a copy of the order of discharge, they are put on notice that they violate the injunction provisions at their own risk. Such violation is an invitation to contempt proceedings. Violation of the order of discharge is considered contempt of court.

The bankruptcy court has the inherent power to punish for contemptuous conduct. [Code sec. 105 (a) and Rule 9020 (b)]. It is often best to litigate such matters in the bankruptcy court as this forum is most familiar with bankruptcy law and not sympathetic to creditors who choose to ignore it. Case law is replete with references that violations of the discharge injunction are not to be taken lightly and will not be tolerated.
The Contempt Motion. A regular motion brought in the bankruptcy court against the creditor is sufficient to seek contempt. If the debtor???s bankruptcy case was closed, it will also be necessary to seek re-opening of the case pursuant to Code sec. 350 (b). If it is necessary to immediately seek an injunction to stop a creditor from executing on a judgment, an order to show cause can be brought.
Sanctions, Punitive Awards and Attorneys Fees. Bankruptcy case law provides that a debtor may collect costs, reasonable attorneys fees, sanctions, punitive damages, and compensatory damages against creditors and their attorneys who violate the order of discharge.
Courts have held that a collection attorney has a continuing obligation to review and reevaluate his pleadings upon discovery that they may be without merit or in violation of the law. Thus, it is imperative to put the other attorney on notice by certified mail that he is violating the Bankruptcy Code to establish his duty of inquiry.
There are many cases were sanctions and punitive damages have been awarded in the thousands of dollars against creditors and their attorneys for violating the order of discharge.
Therefore, if you are a collection attorney, take heed of the power of the discharge. If you are a debtor???s attorney, you can rely on the bankruptcy forum to protect your client???s rights against creditors who ignore your client???s discharge rights.
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lrhall41

Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 16:03

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I have found Midland pretty easy to work with. If the debt was discharged in bankruptcy, send them a copy of the paperwork and ask them to vacate the judgment. There's a good chance they will. If they don't respond to rational communication, then contact your attorney.
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lrhall41

Submitted by Chris Scully on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 10:39

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I have found Midland to be beneath contempt. The acts of fraud they have committed even after being sued numerous times for their behavior is not a deterrent as they are right back out there again. And why not? Where else can you buy something for $5 and sell it for $5,000? What a profit margin.

There is no reason to call and speak to these despicable people, send them a copy of the discharge if you like or have the attorney who handled your bankruptcy contact them. I refuse to give them any of my valuable time. They belong in prison for violations of, among other things RICO.


lrhall41

Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:22

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