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Date: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 10:04

Submitted by Shazzers
on Fri, 01/07/2011 - 10:04

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I disagree with the forum's decision to make Gretchen VonDerhoff a debt Samaritan after the horrible things she said to me via PM. She is vindictive and here for the wrong reasons. Just my opinion and I wanted to express it.


well i agree with you,but not for that,but for the thread you moved to this forum.it was a scathing,and as you said vindictive attack on SOAPLADY.i have been watching her posts waiting for the other shoe to drop as she seems to me like someone who can't be corrected.again i will be watching her closely.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 01/07/2011 - 10:28

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I'll chime in with my agreement as well. There is a way to disagree with someone and a way not to disagree with someone. On more than one occasion she has violated the site's terms of service.

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3. In forums or comments do not use abusive language.

4. Respect and appreciate other community members.

20. Please do not make any personal attacks to any individuals in the forum. Also refrain from revealing personal information in the forum.



I don't think she should be rewarded for her behavior by being named a Debt Samaritan. Her actions have hardly been that of a samaritan.Just my 2 cents.


lrhall41

Submitted by OhioGal1 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:22

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Jason--

I had not seen this before, but this is just my opinion. We should not reward someone for "how much they improved" if they are still violating the TOS here. To me that should be a basic requirement. As always, I respect the admins here and the hard work you all do....this is just my two cents


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Submitted by skydivr7673 on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 16:25

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I fully agree when you say we should not allow any ToS Violators and thats the very reason you see so many members being banned for spamming, soliciting etc. However in her case she was neither a spammer nor a solicitor. She came here with some problems like most do but she complained that many of her threads/posts were being deleted by moderators where there was a difference of opinion. Like I always say if there is any differences it should be sorted out in a respectable manner. The Mods should not delete genuine posts though the information may be wrong. Rather they should correct the poster there itself. Members on the other hand should not make personal attacks. Henceforth, if a Moderator finds any offensive post, they can take a screen shot of that post and send it to us, so that we can send the post to the poster for an explanation and take necessary action where required.

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if they are still violating the TOS here.
Has any Mod received any offensive messages after the initial stage of her posting? If so, can you post it here please?

Our community can Only grow when we allow more people to participate in our forums and if in between there requires any improvement then we feel our platform should provide that space required for improving oneself. Like they say.. Quote:
The biggest room in the world, is the room for improvement :)


Jason


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Submitted by Jason on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 20:13

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Has any Mod received any offensive messages after the initial stage of her posting? If so, can you post it here please?


Ask and you shall receive, Jason....

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/showthread.php?p=799809#post799809

All I did was say "The first thing you need to do is take a deep breath and calm down. You are a debt samaritan, you represent this forum. And posts like this do not represent this forum in a good light". I then went on to recommend that she file complaints against the attorney that filed an obviously frivolous lawsuit. Her response was to get increasingly bitchy with me. I did nothing to step over any line, and as a debt samaritan, moderator, and HOF member, I hardly think that I deserve to be told things like:

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You know what? I don't need YOU lecturing me, so, how can I put this nicely since you are so into being Mr/Ms Manners.

Take a hike.

And what's with the "I expect you to know better". You don't have the right to expect anything out of me. Are we going to start telling each other what we expect the other to do?

Go lecture one of your kids or your significant other or the mailman or your doctor or your lawyer or indian chief.

Or maybe clean up your house. Or lose weight.

Surely there must be some self-improvement YOU need to work on.

Lecturing and superior mentality are not needed or wanted


With all due respect to you, Jason, and to the rest of the staff here, I dont give a damn what some det collector did to anyone here or how angry they get at the lawyers....I went through cancer and lost damn near everything I had in my 20s. I lost everything I owned again in Hurricane Katrina. And I still fight some of these same battles today....is that justification to act like an ass? The absolute last thing that needs to be allowed to persist here is the attitude that this person displays--that because she is angry at a lawyer, that she can treat anyone she pleases on this forum, obviously including the moderators, like crap. I dont care how angry this lady is....her anger needs to be put in the right place. She also said she never asked to be a debt samaritan....at that point, I dont think she should be one. With ongoing behavior like this she shouldnt even be allowed to stay on the forum IMHO.

Thanks for your time, and again, I hope I didnt come off sounding angry at you, Jason. I am not at all. You guys have a big job with this forum and you do a great job. But this kind of behavior has been brought to the admin's attention already, and she has clearly not changed a bit.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 11:22

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Jason--heres more. Immediately after the above took place, she started this thread in the "debt collectors and creditors" section:

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/collection-agencies/thread97340.html

And to top it all off, I just got a PM from her, this is word for word what she sent to me:

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DISRESPECTED ME AND NOW YOU WANT ME TO CARE IF YOU HAD CANCER?

WHY WOULD i CARE ABOUT YOU?

YOU'RE A JERK AND A BULLY


Dude, this idiot needs to go. Do we really need any more proof of that?? I have posted only to her in the threads. I have not posted one insulting comment to her anywhere. And this crap NEEDS to go.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 12:17

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I know.....

wow, this lady has a chemical imbalance or something. She just posted the same basic crap to me in three back-to-back PMs. threatened to report me to the forum for "destroying her thread".....what a load of nonsense. I even told her at least twice that her thread is not at all destroyed, and that I would be happy to reopen it for her as soon as she would agree to return to civilized posting. wow....just wow....


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 12:43

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It sounds similar to what she PM'ed to me a while back, she was rude, used fowl language and told me she was going to stay at this forum just to harass me. I told her I would not reply to anymore of her PM's, but she continued to harass me with PM's, and I didn't reply to any of them, and all I had told her in my first PM was I moved her post to the Mod forum to be reviewed and approved by the Administrator, that is ALL I said to the woman! Then, she sent me numerous PM's that were uncalled for! SHE IS A NUT CASE, and after reading her replies to Skydver I am convinced she's nuts!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 13:29

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Ok, this is it. I have officially had enough of this crap.

JASON--here is where I am at. EITHER SHE GOES OR I DO.

This ass just sent me this in an email:

[QUOTE]Too bad your fucking cancer ate your brain loser

The next time you feel like embarrassing yourself why not

SHUT THE FUCK UP INSTEAD

JACKASS
[/QUOTE]

I am DONE with this crap!

If this forum will not handle someone who is this abusive and harassing, THEN I WILL.

I am going to file a police report for harassment. I traced the IP address on the gmail account that she sent it from and the fur's gonna fly over this nonsense! This idiot actually searched on the internet to find an email address to harass me by! Jason, there will be police involvement on this, I WILL NOT stand for this kind of trash. A basic search of the email address she sent this through shows some VERY weird behavior....she apparently has a membership at a sex site called kink.com--I didnt look around there enough to know anything except that she used this email address to sign up there. Frankly, I dont want to know what the hell she is into over there.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 18:59

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Jason, a temporary ban is worthless. Someone else already did a temp ban on her today. She promptly signed up a new screen name and continued the same crap. In addition to that, the email thing is WAY out of line.

I dont ask for anything out of this forum. I have helped literally dozens of people here. People come to me each week asking for help. Other moderators refer people to me when they are faced with illegal debt collector lawsuits and similar issues. I have been a debt samaritan, now a moderator, and part of the HOF. I have used a lto of my own time, and even money, researching companies and individuals for our members. With my background in criminal justice and fugitive recovery I have access to databases that most people do not. I use these resources to help our members. In return, I have never asked for anything from this forum. But if this moron is allowed to remain a part of this forum, then I will not be. There is a VERY SERIOUS issue when someone is willing to go this far to harass and abuse someone. She actually searched up an email address of mine from the internet for the sole purpose of continuing the harassment. We are now into the area of criminal behavior. If a temporary ban is your best answer to handling this, then with all respect to you, something is wrong with this picture. Two moderators before me have told the admins here about this person's behavior and actions. Now, three of your moderators have been harassed in ways that should have been completely unacceptable. When dealing with someone who blatantly ignores the rules to this extent, what exactly do you think a "temporary ban" will do for us?


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 20:10

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II am with skydvr, if she comes back here, I will not. I will not give my time and knowledge to a place that will allow this type of behavior and resolve it with a temporary ban. She harassed me for no reason, and I did not treat her badly in any way, I reported this to you promptly.

Sorry, but I will not stay, if she stays. I will not stand by and watch her abuse people. First she harassed Soaplady, then she harassed me, and now she is harassing skydvr. This is WRONG.


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 20:16

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