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Pay-day-loan-yes ...scum

Date: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:06

Submitted by anonymous
on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:06

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I emailed them this notice...

01/18/2011
Pay-Day-Loan-Yes AKA Global

This letter is to inform you that I am aware of the FACT that the loan you issued to me, is NOT legal or binding in my state. For your convenience, I have included my state payday loan laws below.

State Legal Status
Lending of payday loan is considered prohibited in the State of New Jersey

New Jersey has a civil usury law (with a 16% limit) and a criminal usury law (30% maximum for licensed lenders). On this note I have asked to see your license and still have not been provided proof

The state of NJ prohibits payday loans, therefore, I am bound by the state laws where I reside. As I have no presence in your state therefore I have no legal obligation to the 'governing laws' you may have detailed.

I have already researched this information, your company does NOT have a license to lend in the state of New Jersey, if I am mistaken I will need proof in the form of a license number so that I may verify it with my Attorney General. I am bound by the state laws where I reside. As I have no presence in your state therefore I have no legal obligation to the 'governing laws' you may have detailed or "soverign laws" as I also have not seen requested proof of that.

Be advised that as of today 1/12/2011 I am revoking ANY and ALL ACH authorizations with your company from debiting any AND all of my personal accounts, per Federal law, Regulation E Section 205.10 Preauthorized transfers. I also revoke ANY and ALL wage assignments I may have signed, by you, including but not limited to; any of your affiliates, dba's, and collection agencies assigned to this account. None of the above no longer have my permission to access my accounts or impose a wage assignment.

I will only communicate to resolve this matter via email. If you ignore this notice and attempt to contact me or any of my references via telephone, you will be ignored and any payments owed will be delayed. I am willing to pay the principle amount of the loan only, however, no address means NO payments, this is not negotiable.

I have filed complaints with my Attorney General Paula Dow ,the BBB and the Federal Trade Commission. If you reply to this notice with any misleading legal implications or menacing course of actions you are unable to follow through with, I will be forced to take actions against you.

As stated I am willing to pay the REST OF THE principle in the amount of 245 dollars.
Their response was as follows............

We did not solicit your business. You went outside of your state and took the loan. You came to our state for the loan and our state says we are legal and there is no Federal Guidelines stating otherwise. You owe the money. Let me give you an example. If you live in a state that charges $0.00 is sales tax and you go and buy lets say a new living room set in a different state that does charge sales tax you are not exempt from paying sales tax on your purchase just because you reside in a tax free state...you see where I am going with this.

Please reference your loan contract, the Loan Note & Disclosure Statement, the Governing Law section. Listed below is what you agreed to / authorized when you e-signed your loan contract. Your email does not forgive your debt nor will it deflect further collection actions on your loan accounts.

Governing Law

"Both parties agree that this Note and your account shall be governed by all applicable federal laws and all laws of the jurisdiction in which the LENDER is located, regardless of which state you may reside, and by signing below or by your electronic signature, you consent to the exclusive exercise of regulatory and ad judicatory authority by the jurisdiction in which the Lender is located over all matters related to the Note and your account, forsaking any jurisdiction which either party may claim by virtue of its residency".

[SIZE=2]I have read and understand your email. We do not accept any type of check or money order. We do not accept any type of payment through any type of mail service.
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]We only accept electronic payments and your payment method is Western Union Quick Collect.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]As of today, your total account balance is $590, settlement is for $540, payment arrangements are for three (3) payments $180 due on 01-21-11, 02-4-11 and 02-18-11 , via Western Union.

[/SIZE][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#008080]Payment Instructions:
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[SIZE=2]To confirm this payoff you will need email back and specifically confirm [/SIZE][SIZE=2]this payment arrangement as listed above. Once you have done that I will email you with Western Union information. [/SIZE]

This is a loan payoff, meaning once you confirm payment your account will then be removed from the collections process, your balance will be frozen and no further charges will be assessed on the loan balance as long as you follow through with the agreed arrangement.

WOW>>>>I have called my lawyer and left him a message and sending this to the AG office in NJ.


they are so full of it.a couple of things here.

1)paydayloanyes is scum,and one of many illegals that couldn't care less about the law.
2)your state law prevails,and they think that stating otherwise you will believe them.they are stupid and evil.
3)are you sure you owe 245.00.if so repeat your desire to pay it with a real address.no bank info.

yes file AG complaints and know that this pdl slime is illegal,and your state laws prevail.illegal knucklescrapers think that by spouting their dillusions makes them fact when nothing could be further from the truth.re-send your original e-mail wih the addition no address no payment.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:13

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You didn't leave your state. The transaction took place via the internet so, as Paul said, your state law prevails. Their example only applies if you physically went to their state, to a brick and mortar store and got the loan that way. They're full of it. I hope you have closed your account.


lrhall41

Submitted by OhioGal1 on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:20

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Thanks guys. I realize they just use scare tactics but its so annoying. She then respondes to me telling me not to burden their company because I suck at my finances. How dare she!. Then proceeds to tell me any emails sent will not go into the rejection folder. How can these people get away with this? Here I am willing to mail in the rest of the money I woe and they are asking for more than double?! Really?! I have a thick skin and I am not budging. I have spoke to my employer who laughed and said they would hang up and not to worry.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:41

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And yes I am sure I owe 245 in principle. Let me state what happened. After I applied, my bank account got hacked into for 600 dollars. I was told by the bank its possible this payday lender sold my info to other people to try and scam me or debit my acct or at the very least it got hacked into on my application. I had to immedietly close the acct. Thats why Payday loan yes is bugging out however I am willing to pay the balance and be done with it!!!! I am not trying to rip them off but refuse to give my new acct number out again in fear of a repeat!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:47

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Quote:

And yes I am sure I owe 245 in principle. Let me state what happened. After I applied, my bank account got hacked into for 600 dollars. I was told by the bank its possible this payday lender sold my info to other people to try and scam me or debit my acct or at the very least it got hacked into on my application. I had to immedietly close the acct. Thats why Payday loan yes is bugging out however I am willing to pay the balance and be done with it!!!! I am not trying to rip them off but refuse to give my new acct number out again in fear of a repeat!!!

They are nothing but Internet criminals!


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 08:01

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Its amazing how the forum does help relieve some of the stress with this. What gets me is that I emailed them and called weeks and weeks ago letting them know of my situation with the bank account. I was nice and professional recognizing I have a balance and will mail in the payments and then they turn around and threaten me and harass me!? On top of that add over 300 dollars for inconvience charges?!! They wouldnt have been "inconvienced" if they responded to my inquiries when I first told them!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 08:10

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The problem is, they hire people in call centers overseas, or people who have absolutely no people skills, all these people care about is collecting that money from the customer, no matter what it takes, the more money they can get from the consumer, the bigger their paycheck is. It's a vicious business.


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 08:16

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Just to let you know, they are full of poop when it comes to the tax example!!! I live in Portland right over the border from Washington State. Oregon has no sales tax, Washington does. If you shop in Washington & show your Oregon ID you DO NOT have to pay sales tax :) and that my friend is a fact!!!!! :)


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 17:43

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I am having the same problem with Payday-Loan-Yes (Fastcash Advance), but my jerk's name is Tim McFeeters. We have been arguing back and forth over about the fact that since he is unlicensed in the state of SC it makes my loan illegal. He claims since he is licensed in Utah (which by the way, he's NOT licensed there either), that he can do business in any state. He is unrelenting and is not a nice man at all. I am gathering all of my facts this weekend so that on Monday I can file my complaint with the SC Dept of Consumer Affairs (the AG's website directs me to file my complaints there). They will accept any documentation I have within 5 days after I have filed my complaint online, so I plan to send them every ugly email he has ever sent me. I also plan to send copies of my bank statements, which prove that I have already paid more than the principal amount to these creeps, yet they still want 2 more payments of $232 each! I was even nice enough to tell them that with a PIF letter, I would NOT request a refund of my overpayment, but that didn't help convince them any....

Keep me posted on how things go for you with them.....since we are dealing with the same company, I am very curious....


lrhall41

Submitted by angsmith911 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 07:33

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I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of arguing with them, and I wouldn't send them copies of my bank statements either. These people are trained to be aggressive and argumentative, their only purpose is to scare you and make you fear them. They are only toying with you, just state the facts, make your offer and leave it at that.


lrhall41

Submitted by Shazzers on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 09:15

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Shazzers - not giving the documents to the PDL company, to my Dept Consumer of Affairs - they request any copies of proof that you may have. And I can definitely show them the amount deposited into my account, and the amounts that have been deducted, and that will clearly show how much above and beyond the loan I have repaid - certainly at a rate that isn't even legal for the legal lenders in the state!!! I'm also sending copies of the emails exchange, as they were VERY ugly to me. They are so busted!


lrhall41

Submitted by angsmith911 on Sat, 01/29/2011 - 09:50

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