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Follow up to "Relative Sticking me with the bill" Part 2

Date: Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:07

Submitted by SPIDER.WOMANAZ
on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:07

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http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50815

Please help. I posted the above thread almost three years ago and I am still dealing with this. I took all the steps suggested above (validation of debt letters sent to Midland and the attorney they sent after me) and never received a response. I filed complaints with the FTC and the AZ attorney general's office (I was living in AZ at the time) and the creditor (Midland) responded to them and the FTC sent me their response. They said that citibank contacted me back in 2005. I never received anything about this debt until 2007 right after I moved to AZ. At the time it was with another collection agency. When I moved to CA last year, I received another letter requesting collection of the debt but it was in Spanish. I retained a lawyer October 2010, sent him a full explanation of what happened along with scanned copies of all my paperwork. I think he's a complete idiot frankly and am very frustrated. Three months ago he called and said the creditor was saying that debt was mine. Well of course they are. That's a big "Duh." Then he sent me an email two weeks ago which had copies of my aunt's statements from 2005 and 2006. He asked me if I recognized any of the charges. In my well documented 4 page explanation I told him I had any contact with the creditor since the late 90's when I closed my account. But what really angered me was the note from their attorney instructing my attorney to call when I was ready to make a settlement. I emailed him back saying I wanted to see the original signed agreement as well as every single statement.

So I need some advice as to what I should do at this point. I pulled my credit report and it is listed as disputed on the fair debt collections act.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

*Another item. I have had a paid in full letter from a credit (AdAstra for over a year) but the item is still listed as delinquent by $2 on my credit report. I have faxed copies of the letter to all three credit bureaus, called the creditor, and disputed the item online to no avail. What can I do about that?

Thanks.

Kim T.


You have done the right thing by disputing the item (AdAstra) with te credit bureaus. Wait for a few days more. As per the FCRA rules, the collection agencies are required to investigate the matter and give you a reply within 30-45 days of receiving the dispute letter.

Now getting back to your main query, I think you should consult another attorney. it is better to take a second opinion. Don't pay any money without getting proper documents.


lrhall41

Submitted by Good Nelly on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 21:26

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@Ohio Gal

There were originally two cards with different account numbers under what I assume was the same umbrella account. My aunt and I received separate statements. If you click on the link in my first post it explains everything in detail. I have disputed with the credit bureaus, demanded verification from the creditor and filed complaints with the FTC. The lawyer that got even though I like he's far from committed at least they are giving him information (my aunt's statements from 2005). For years I've gotten nothing from them.

I also wanted to add the account was opened in 1989 when I was a senior in highschool. I never, never signed anything. My aunt presented me with the card before I went off to college. So frankly, I don't even know what kind of account it was since the creditor has failed to send that information.

Thanks.

Kim T.


lrhall41

Submitted by SPIDER.WOMANAZ on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 13:24

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well, first things first....this should not be on your credit report.

You never signed any agreement to be granted credit. Therefore, this is not your account. Further, you never signed for any of the purchases that your aunt made--she did. Therefore, you are likewise, not legally responsible for those charges. If I were in your shoes I would be suing these people ASAP. There are so many violations here it isnt even funny. Keep this in mind--they are on all three of your credit reports....The FCRA allows a penalty of up to $1000 PER VIOLATION, and they report to all three bureaus. In the case of one deal that I am in the middle of right now myself, the CA in question reported EVERY MONTH to all 3 of my reports. So, each month means an additional $3000 in damages that I am seeking. The SOL for this is one year, so that means if they reported the same error on all three reports, every month, then that's up to $36,000 in statutory damages under the FCRA. Now, here's the funny part--there are two debts they are trying to collect....they claimed that I opened two credit card accounts in two different places around the same time.....so we are now up to $72,000 in damages. That does not include the fact that I have been injured as a result of this--due to their reporting, I have been unable to gain some credit and have had to pay higher interest for other credit. Mind you, they do not have a single signature from me on anything....not on any credit agreement, and not on any single purchase they claim I made on these accounts. They could not produce anything. And yet, when I sent in CMRR request for validation, they tried to play games. First they acknowledged my dispute, and sent me letters back saying "we received your dispute, please provide us with all relevant documentation you have to support your dispute so we can resolve this matter quickly". Then, as the calls and letters increased(more than two dozen calls a day at its worst), they kept claiming that, first, I didnt ever dispute...and second, then they started saying "well, you did dispute but you did it outside the 30 day window, so we dont have to provide you with anything". Of course, I have them cold on this one--the letters they sent me saying "we got your dispute" all have dates on them.

Anyways, back to your situation. Since you informed them long ago that you dispute this and they have failed to produce anything at all that would be legitimate validation, I would move forward with a lawsuit. If this attorney isnt handling this then find another one that will. Demand that they produce an original credit agreement bearing your signature. Demand that they produce individual credit card charge slips showing the signature for the person who incurred these charges. The time for you to wait for them to fix this is past, they clearly will not do anything. I would take this to court and force them to correct their errors. Along the way, you have sufficient information to win a suit that would make them have to pay you for their mistakes.

EDIT--if I recall right, CA's statute of limitations on written contract debt is 4 years, so they cannot sue you legally. I also read what the FTC told you--and that bears no relevance here. You filed a complaint because MIDLAND failed to honor a validation request....regardless of who contacted or didnt contact you years prior, that does not in any way remove Midland's responsibilities under the law. If I were you I would have responded to the FTC with exactly that--as well as to Midland. The spirit of the law regarding validation was to protect the consumer against debt collectors who falsely try to collect debts that they have no legal right to collect, so it doesnt matter if the OC contacted you or not--it is still their obligation to validate. I cannot believe that the FTC didnt go further with that lame excuse....


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 14:31

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