Jason, what happened?? Is anyone else having this problem?
Date: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 15:54
So, I have noticed something. Ever since the conversations last week in which I aired my concerns here, two things have taken place. First, I do not know if a conference call ever took place but I indicated that I was available and never heard another word about it.
Second, I noticed something else....suddenly, I no longer am receiving any moderation points. I was receiving them, and then not long after posting in that thread I stopped receiving them. I decided to give it a little time, as I know that forum glitches pop up from time to time, but I still am not receiving them. Are you guys still getting them on your end? I also opted to cash out the points that I did have, five days ago. I do not know now long that is supposed to take, but I have heard nothing about it.
I am hoping that this is just coincidence. But either way, I would appreciate it greatly if my points would be cashed out for me. The system shows that I made my request to cash out 30326 points on 6/21/2012. Thank you.
I made a request on June 16 for $100.02 and it is still pending.
I made a request on June 16 for $100.02 and it is still pending.
I made a request on June 13th that's still pending as well.
I made a request on June 13th that's still pending as well.
How do you check for moderations points? I have no idea if I'm getting them or not.
Also, I never heard another word about the conference call either.
Looks like we are no longer getting points for moderation....wou
Looks like we are no longer getting points for moderation....would have been nice if they had told us.
Hi All Moderation points system is working fine here. You can
Hi All
Moderation points system is working fine here. You can take a look at the moderation point figure (check Earned From Moderation : ) from your member page.
Please note that as per mod points algo, our system will automatically add points based on your "logged in moderation activities" like spam deletion,duplicate post deletion and so on. This means that you???ll be earning points for the moderation work done "while posting in the forums and Social Answers"
As far as forum payments are concerned they have been cleared. We had more payment request this time, so we paid all the members who requested for payment at the same time.
( http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/community-rewards/payment-june2012.html )
Regarding the conference call, Michael will get in touch with you.
Jason
[QUOTE]Moderation points system is working fine here. You can ta
[QUOTE]Moderation points system is working fine here. You can take a look at the moderation point figure (check Earned From Moderation : ) from your member page.
Please note that as per mod points algo, our system will automatically add points based on your "logged in moderation activities" like spam deletion,duplicate post deletion and so on. This means that you???ll be earning points for the moderation work done "while posting in the forums and Social Answers"[/QUOTE]
This is incorrect. Over the last week I have deleted several spam threads and not received as much as a single point for it. I only receive points for posting in threads like every regular member gets. Nothing else I do causes my point total to go up. It was not like this before, and it is now. Clearly something has changed. Every time we delete spam, the system requires us to log in by default, so I am definitely logged in and conducting moderation activities at those times, but no points get added. This is what prompted me to post about it in the first place. I deleted some spam yesterday and saw no change in points so as of yesterday this is still the case.
Thank you for processing my points.
I agree Sky...I purposely have watched for points after deleting
I agree Sky...I purposely have watched for points after deleting spam and the points do not budge. They only move for posting.
Lynn your moderation point figure is 39766 which means you have
Lynn your moderation point figure is 39766 which means you have so far earned $397.66 (ever since we introduced the new mod points system in our forums) just by doing moderation activities itself apart from regular posting. Posting is directly connected with moderation activities and that's the very reason you see an increase in mod points whereas if you don't make posts in the forums along with mod activities within your logged in and logged out time, you are not likely to see increase in points.
As per our mod point settings, you are likely to get logged out if there is no activity (posting and moderating) in forums. You won't earn mod points just by remaining logged in into the forums. Only those who make posts as well moderate forums within the logged in and logged out time frame, will see an increase in their mod points.
Jon, as per your member page stat you have so far earned 28018 moderation points apart from the points you got for posting in our forums.
[QUOTE]As per our mod point settings, you are likely to get logg
[QUOTE]As per our mod point settings, you are likely to get logged out if there is no activity (posting and moderating) in forums. You won't earn mod points just by remaining logged in into the forums. Only those who make posts as well moderate forums within the logged in and logged out time frame, will see an increase in their mod points.[/QUOTE]
Jason, you are not hearing me at all.
Do you know what the system automatically does when we delete spam? Before we can delete the spam, it by default REQUIRES US TO SIGN IN. That means EVERY TIME I delete spam, I AM LOGGED IN. Same thing for everyone else. Over the last couple weeks I have deleted more than a dozen spam threads. And each time I did that, I was LOGGED IN to do it--the system doesnt allow it to happen any other way! And each time I did that there was NO CHANGE IN MY POINTS. You cannot look at my cumulative total and say "look, youre still getting those points" because the cumulative total does not show that I get those points NOW. It shows that I have gotten those points total for those actions. I am telling you, and I do not know why you are not paying attention to this, when I conduct specific mod actions I am not getting any points for it. Neither is at least one other mod, who has spoken up about it here as well.
Jason, to be honest, what frustrates me the most right now is your response to this. I specifically brought up that when I am logged in and deleting spam I am not getting any points added to my current total. You reply with "well, you won't get points for just being logged into the forum, you have to conduct mod activities......" NO ONE asked why we do not get points for just sitting online!! I clearly made my point and your response looks as if you did not even bother to read what I said.
Please keep that in mind--you keep saying you want us to feel like you do not blow us off.....but that is exactly what you are doing. I will say it again--by default, when a mod goes to delete spam, the system requires them to log on before the action can be completed. I am not looking at a cumulative total for mod points--I am looking at my total points altogether. If I get mod points, wont my total points increase from it?? Yet they are not. I delete spam and nothing moves. My current POINTS TOTAL is 68 points. Before I cashed out my points, I was no longer getting mod points. Since I cashed out my points, I have posted 6 times on the forum and deleted numerous spam threads. The only time my points increase is when I post or create a thread, which is what every regular member gets.
finally, I got points for deleting spam. I deleted two threads
finally, I got points for deleting spam. I deleted two threads and my total points showed an increase. That is the first time that has happened in two weeks. And I did nothing different in my process either.
I checked this the other day too. I was logged in and had check
I checked this the other day too. I was logged in and had checked my total points. Then, I would go in and delete spam posts/threads...basic mod activities and check my points again. No difference. If I posted, the points went up.
I'll check it again today to see if it's different now.
Just checked. I was at 1585 points. I deleted a spam post via
Just checked.
I was at 1585 points. I deleted a spam post via the "moderators section." I checked my points after deleting that thread and they're still at 1585.
Same as me....I checked my total points delete a bunch of thread
Same as me....I checked my total points delete a bunch of threads and the cumulative total does not budge.
I spend hours and hours each day monitoring, deleting and answering posts, mostly posts from unregistered idiots who dont know how to do a google search or people who do not return. I frequently spend 10-15 on a single post researching PDL's and laws. I have deleted hundreds of posts this week from spammers and unregistered morons, and correcting bad information being posted by these same unregistered twits. I am getting NO points for moderation, only posting answers.
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Do you know what the system automatically does when we delete spam? |
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Before we can delete the spam, it by default REQUIRES US TO SIGN IN |
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You won't earn mod points just by remaining logged in into the forums |
OG, our mod points system won't work for deleting spams from the moderation section panel because our system is already segregating spams for you from forum posts, so that they can be deleted at the click of a button. Points are awarded for deleting spams which are left behind or those which manage to bypass the spam filter.
SL, your moderation point figure as of yesterday was 39766. Today I see it as 39805. So mod points have certainly increased. Do you remember what your total point was yesterday? If no, just keep a watch on your total points at the end of the day to check the total point difference. Your total point as of now is 177358.
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posted by Jason Are you being asked to sign in or asked to give password for deleting spams? We have inserted the password verification system for our forum security purpose. Being asked to give password every time before deleting a spam in forums does not mean you are logged out. |
Come on, Jason, really??
I posted that to show that there was no doubt that I was logged IN at those times, NOT to say that I was logged out! I posted it for that specific purpose because you responded with a basic description of how the mod points system works and mentioned that points only accrued between when we logged in and when we logged out. It cannot possibly be this hard for you to understand what I said! AT NO TIME did I say that the system was logging me out. I verified to you that I was logged IN at those times, because you posted this:
[QUOTE]Only those who make posts as well moderate forums within the logged in and logged out time frame, will see an increase in their mod points.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, this cannot possibly be that difficult to understand.
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posted by Jason You are very much logged in even though you are required to give the password. If you are getting logged out, we would request you to send us your forum access details so that our tech members can do necessary tests. |
How can you quote one line from my post and ignore the other sentences that were right along with it? I also said this:
[QUOTE]originally posted by me
Do you know what the system automatically does when we delete spam? Before we can delete the spam, it by default REQUIRES US TO SIGN IN. That means EVERY TIME I delete spam, I AM LOGGED IN.[/QUOTE]
How in the world are you going to read that and then feel the need to ask me if I am being logged out?
Jason, we have listed specific issues here. Those issues have gotten little mention compared to things you bring up that we did not.
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And it is not that after every mod work, one will find a change in his/her points. It changes (preferably to see the change at the end of the day) once it sees sufficient posts being made within the login/log out time. Its a general answer and I make an earnest request to you again not to take everything personally. |
And again, you need to stop with this "taking personally" and start addressing what is being said about the issue at hand. While I understand that the points might not show up until end of day, I tried to tell you multiple times that my points total did not change at all. Not immediately, not at the end of that day and not the next day...or the one after that. For over two weeks, the only points I got at all came from posting on the forum. My points total did not EVER increase unless I posted in a thread. This did not change until I spoke up about it here, and then all of a sudden it was back to how it used to be. In that period of time I deleted spam a bunch of times--multiple threads at a time--and there was no change in the cumulative total.
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I make an earnest request to you again not to take everything personally. |
I make an earnest request to you, Jason, to post responses that are relevant to what has been stated to you. It's like taking my truck to the shop for new tires and having the guy ask me what kind of oil I need. You make it more difficult than it needs to be because you try to address things that were not even said and were never the concern. It only makes it more frustrating when I state to you that am clearly logged in at the time so the points should be showing up, and you come back with "did it log you out?" This was not ever a tech issue about logging in or out and my post was clear on that. I only mentioned it because you stated what you did about being logged in.
The fact of the matter is the point system has been changed whet
The fact of the matter is the point system has been changed whether you are willing to admit it or not. I have been logged in over 2 hours. I have answered 2 posts and moderated numerous posts. I have spent time reading and reviewing idiot posts (which you wont address) for 9 cents??
Please, do not treat us like we are stupid.
Jason, maybe you should spend a day on this site doing what we do. You are out of touch with the work we put in here and the time it takes. We spend time reviewing EVERY unregistered post because these former banned members continue to post the wrong information they posted when they were registered members. It takes time and work to do this. Even the so called expert "nelly"...you have to watch and comment what she posts as most of her answers are incomplete or without substance.
The system allocates the points based on the postings, moderatio
The system allocates the points based on the postings, moderation activities and time spent in forums etc
However based on your feedback, we have decided that we will soon stop the mod points system so that our tech members can check the mod points system. It may take time as we are working on other tech issues as well in our forums. Sky, we would appreciate if you volunteer to send us your access details so that our tech members can make necessay tests and check number of posts being made, mod activities done,time spent in forums and their subsequent effect on your total earned points. Looking forward to your cooperation.
So, because we've complained that the system isn't working corre
So, because we've complained that the system isn't working correctly, you're going to stop "rewarding" us for our moderation activities?
This really is unbelievably frustrating.
Also, I'm not getting the "you don't have permission to edit/del
Also, I'm not getting the "you don't have permission to edit/delete posts" even when a post is only a day or two old.
I still think this rule is ridiculous. We're supposed to be moderators on this forum yet, you won't let us moderate. :rolleyes:
Based on Jason's post, I don't think this is going to be a perma
Based on Jason's post, I don't think this is going to be a permanent shut-down--just a shut-down to check the system to make sure it's working correctly, then bring it back on line. (Jason, please, correct me if I'm wrong). I didn't even realize that we can now get posts for moderation, so frankly, this is all gravy to me. :)
I understood what he was saying. My point is that, based on
I understood what he was saying.
My point is that, based on previous experience, it takes a long time for the "fix" to actually go through.
Hence my frustration.
wait a minute
it is one half credit for every moderator act like editing,and deleting.i just deleted two spams and my total went up one point.the moderation points are not on the same plane as regular points.we need to remember that,but it seems to work for me.
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it seems to work for me... |
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the moderation points are not on the same plane as regular points... |
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please, correct me if I'm wrong.. |
It will be a temporary closure if it's at all required now. We don't want to close the mod point system but if one is having issues with mod point, we will need time to fix it as we are presently working on our server and other tech issues.
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I'm not getting the "you don't have permission to edit/delete posts" even when a post is only a day or two old. ... |
You will get the "don't have permission" message ONLY when the post you are trying to delete is a 15 days old post. We have done this to make our forum posts secure in view of posts being hacked/deleted. It's purely a technical decision and has no relation to taking away mod rights.
Moreover you can moderate new posts that get posted in a 15 day old thread. Only the posts which have crossed the 15 days time frame (from the day you are trying to moderate) will not be available for moderation.
OG can you not edit/delete current new posts?
Quote:We also found it working when we checked from here.Strange
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We also found it working when we checked from here. |
[QUOTE]EXACTLY. The points for moderation can never be at par with the posting points.The system generated mod points will never be fixed as you get points for moderation work depending on the number of posts and time spent in forums. It will vary with each moderator on how they spend time here every single day. [/QUOTE]I fail to see what that has to do with the issue when someone tells you that they were not receiving them at all.....??
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Why will you get the "don't have permission" message? You already have the permission/right to delete one/two days old or even current posts. [/QUOTE]I believe she was saying she didnt understand it, not that she wasnt getting that message on her screen--I believe she WAS getting that message on her screen and she's trying to tell you "I dont get it", as in "I dont understand".
That's correct, Sky. I don't understand why I am still receivi
That's correct, Sky.
I don't understand why I am still receiving the message that says I don't have permission to edit/delete threads while trying to edit/delete a thread/post that is less than 48 hours old.
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I fail to see what that has to do with the issue when someone tells you that they were not receiving them at all.....?? |
As far as the above post is concerned, it was necessary to inform all, that posting point distribution should not be confused with moderation point algo. One should not expect mod points to be at par with post points. There is nothing fixed when a moderator gets points for moderation. It is variable is nature as it depends on a number of factors like how much time one is spending here, number of posts being made along with moderation work done.
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I don't understand why I am still receiving the message that says I don't have permission to edit/delete threads while trying to edit/delete a thread/post that is less than 48 hours old... |
Jason, That's what I just said. No. I can't. It's inconsis
Jason,
That's what I just said. No. I can't.
It's inconsistent. Sometimes I can and sometimes I cannot delete a post that has been made within the last 48 hours.
OG, please send us few urls for our test purpose. Anyone else n
OG, please send us few urls for our test purpose.
Anyone else not able to edit/delete post made less than 48 hrs ago? Please reply.