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Going to Conciliation Court

Date: Mon, 08/20/2012 - 15:17

Submitted by babypumpkin
on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 15:17

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I live in MN and on Thursday I have to go to Conciliation court for a credit card debt of $940.

How should I prepare... if at all? And to prevent garnishment, how to get I get it so I can make voluntary payments to them?


Have you tried settling this account??

You can ask for a payment plan...and they could deny you. However you then need to show up in court and tell the judge you have attempted to make payments and there is a possiblity he will grant a conditional judgment...this allows you to make payments without being garnished or having your bank account levied.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Tue, 08/21/2012 - 06:00

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I plan on going to court. The law firm is Messerli and Kramer. I got 1 letter from them on 5/7/2012 and then I got conciliation court papers on 5/24/12.

I responded to their letter stating that in the "Final Notice" they didn't reference the debt or how much it was. Just that I had time to contact them for a payment arrangement. How am I to make an arrangement if I don't know who or how much.

The court papers say they represent Midland Funding who bought the debt from HSBC. The CC balance was 700. Interest was 80 and court cost are 70.

All of this seems so screwy and not sure what I should be saying to the judge because I feel this law firm should have sent me more letters than 1 FINAL notice.

I was just looking for advice. if you get a judgement against you in conciliation court is it automatic wage and bank levy?


lrhall41

Submitted by babypumpkin on Tue, 08/21/2012 - 07:14

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I am originally from Minneapolis and I know how Messerli and Kramer work...once they get the judgment they will use it to their power to collect as quickly as possible. They have a tendency to go for bank levies right around the 1st of the month hoping to grab rent/mortgage payments. They can be nasty. Thats why I suggested going for a conditional type judgment...


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Tue, 08/21/2012 - 07:21

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Thanks for your advice. I talked to a lawyer this morning who has dealt with them this morning. He said to show up to the hearing - very informal. He said DO NOT tell them where you work or my bank account information. He said to tell the judge that you don't recall how the debt accumulated to that much but acknowledge that you had a credit card with HSBC. State you are more than will to make monthly payments or settle on an agreed amount.

He said most people don't show up to these hearings and that is how Messerli and Kramer get default judgements.

Is that good advice. Do I just ask the judge for a conditional judgement?


lrhall41

Submitted by babypumpkin on Tue, 08/21/2012 - 08:43

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Thanks for your advice. I talked to a lawyer this morning who has dealt with them this morning. He said to show up to the hearing - very informal. He said DO NOT tell them where you work or my bank account information.
Finding your bank account is easy...they just send copies of the levy to every bank in central Minnesota. Lets face it...60% of people in the Twin Cities bank with Wells, TCF or US Bank. If the judge asks where you work, you have to respond.

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He said to tell the judge that you don't recall how the debt accumulated to that much but acknowledge that you had a credit card with HSBC.
The debt accumulated so much do to interest and late fees...they add up quick.

State you are more than will to make monthly payments or settle on an agreed amount.

He said most people don't show up to these hearings and that is how Messerli and Kramer get default judgements.

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Is that good advice. Do I just ask the judge for a conditional judgement?
First you need to call Messerli and Kramer and try to get on a payment plan. Keep notes. If they refuse, make sure you note who you talked to and how much was offered. Then tell the judge you have tried to work with them. Express your fear to the judge that you do not want to be garnished or levied. That is how you get the conditions written into the judgement.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Tue, 08/21/2012 - 09:31

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Personally I would have no problem giving Messerli and Kramer autodraft priveleges if I that was a condition of settlement. I used to go MN collection conferences where they attended...they are a very respected law firm within the collection community. Not to mention the MN AG's office would have their ass if they violated the FDCPA in cashing checks/ach debits early.

FYI...my ex services their computer equipment and several people I trained/worked with work their. I usually know when he has been their as a new FB request comes my way or he sends me messages.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 04:21

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