Dirving is our new MODERATOR ..
Date: Wed, 08/29/2012 - 05:31
This is to inform you all that we have selected dirving as our new MODERATOR. [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5] Congratulations
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Dirving, please go through the..
Responsibilities and limits of a moderator
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A moderator's main responsibility is to maintain a spam free environment in our community. A moderator is to be a role model in that they must rise above what tries to bring them down. Moderators must support and show kindness and respect to other moderator's as well as Debt Samaritans and members. Nothing outside of constructive criticism to others for the information that they are sharing is acceptable. A moderator in our community should live by the Golden Rule and do unto others as they would have them do unto you and love thy neighbours in our community. Moderators will be warned once in writing via a private message if it is deemed that their interaction with others falls outside of the scope of the proceeding mission statement. If their actions continue to contradict the mission statement, their privileges may be temporarily suspended for 2 weeks. If there is a third incident their privileges will be permanently revoked. Any moderator inactive for 90 days will be contacted and asked if they wish to continue or return to a regular member status. Inactive is defined as not posting in the forums for 90 days or more. |
Process for moderation
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/mod/thread51596.html
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/mod/thread51901.html
Points for moderation
Please also read http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/mod/moderation-points.html
Jason
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I am going to object publically. He is not ready. His knowledg
I am going to object publically. He is not ready. His knowledge is very narrow and I am constantly correcting his errors. Granted he works for Cap One...however this does not make him an expert or even moderator material.
I've corrected him as well. Not that we don't all make mistakes
I've corrected him as well. Not that we don't all make mistakes but, I don't think he's ready either.
Jason, you talk about the reputations of our moderators, how they're viewed, etc. Having a moderator give bad information isn't going to look good either.
Not that you care what I think, obviously.
on one hand, Jason, its a bit ridiculous to promote someone to m
on one hand, Jason, its a bit ridiculous to promote someone to moderator after they had only been a member for one month. When I was first asked about being a mod, I had been here for a lot longer than that, and I was still put in a holding pattern because the powers that be felt I wasnt here long enough yet.
Second, its more than a bit ridiculous to promote someone to moderator when they are constantly being corrected in their posts.
Third, last I recall, there was a list of criteria for someone to become a mod. Several times on this forum, it has been stated that those criteria included:
1--1,000 posts in the forums
2--minimum 6 months of membership on the forums
3--be in the hall of fame
Your latest moderator meets none of those qualifications.
Jason, straight up, there's a problem with the way you are doing things. You have explained that the mods here are to follow the TOS, abide by the rules, to set the golden example to others. Yet you do not follow the rules at times like these yourself. Being a super moderator, shouldnt you have to abide by the rules as well for the same reasons?? The criteria for moderators has been in place and we all had to meet those standards...
I am currently evacuated for Hurricane isaac and do not even know if I have a house left to return to....and when able, I have still been on here. The dilligence that many of our moderators display cannot be merely replaced by breaking the rules and rushing to make someone who's only been here one month and posts incorrect info a mod. But, if thats all that your mods are worth to you, then so be it. I hardly think it is too much to ask that you support your mods publicly instead of ignoring what actually took place in this latest case. i do not expect blind support, but I DO expect support. You reprimand ohio to the whole staff, and she was not even in the wrong. At the very least, you owe her an apology. You owed it to her to check with her to see what actually happened before you did this in front of everyone. We do a lot for this place, and we are not even afforded basic common decency from you in cases like this.
Here's a thought--when you have oil leaking into your water, changing the water wont fix your problem. Darn near the whole mod staff has expressed concerns to you recently, and rather than handling those concerns, you bring on new mods that are not ready to be mods. If your goal is to actually work through the concerns here, then let's get to it. If your goal is to simply replace moderators, then thats a lousy way to do people.
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http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/showpost.php?p=935387&postcount=9
he posts in the same manner you have told us is not acceptable in the first place. And its a complete sham that he was rushed into debt samaritan status yesterday followed immediately with moderator. Last time we checked there was a system of voting in the mods section for debt sams......how much more are you going to ignore our operating guidelines and ignore the mods like this??
And Dirving, if you're reading this, it's nothing personal. Tru
And Dirving, if you're reading this, it's nothing personal. Truly.
well said by all
i can't add anymore to the posts that hasn't been said already including ohiogals last post.dirving is most welcome here,but all of us had to be here and prove ourselves.do not take this as a slight my friend.
Yeah like I told soaplady I didn't apply for debt samaritan nor
Yeah like I told soaplady I didn't apply for debt samaritan nor this moderator position. I can already see its creating a problem so I'd be happy to resign if that would smooth things over.
I do take issue with this idea that you're all frequently correcting me. I disagree vehemently with that notion and while I have been corrected before, I've corrected some of you before. So please, I understand your complaints with regards to me only being here for a few months and not having a lot of posts, but not this "correction". Sky - the post you linked was me talking to a shill from some payday lender website telling someone to stop being a crook or something for not paying back their loans. So please, kindly step off and stop insulting me blindly without even knowing me.
Thanks again for the opportunity but again, I didn't ask for this and it's clear it's creating problems so Jason can remove my moderator if he so desires. If not, I look forward to getting to know all of you better.
Dan
I don't think anyone said "frequently" or "constantly." I said
I don't think anyone said "frequently" or "constantly." I said I've corrected you. My main beef is that you've not been here that long.
I have a feeling Jason chose you because you seem to know what you're talking about and the rest of us were on strike for a while :) He needed someone.
Dan, first, it was already made clear that our problem with th
Dan,
first, it was already made clear that our problem with this is not with you, so lets not get a chip on your shoulder about it. There are issues in play that you could not know about. dont make the mistake of dropping in without understanding that problems already existed before your arrival.
Second, several moderators have stated that they have had to correct you. Whether you think that that means "constantly correcting", that is not now, nor was it ever, the standard that has been used to choose a moderator.
Third, and again this was never directed at you, each of us had to earn our spurs here, so to speak. I was approached about being a moderator after being here several months. It was put oh hold because i did not have the requisites met--less than 1000 posts and was not a HOF member. You need to get off your own high horse and realize that you were put in the position you are in simply out of spite. Jason knows the mods are upset and chooses to improperly add new mods instead of supporting the ones he already has. The leadership here already adopted standards to elect new mods, and he ignored every single one of them in appointing you. Again, this is not a criticism of you, but it needs to be understood. There was a time when each of us was not ready too, that is not an attack on you in any way.
you became a member here a month and a week ago. Think about that....
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no slight my friend in fact i wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when i joined.you are not being"constantly"corrected.you are here for the right reasons,and we see that,but as skydiver stated we all had to wait until we met the criteria for a moderator,and others that preceded us had to meet that criteria as well.this is a reflection on jason.not you dirving.
I appreciate the kind words paul and ohiogal. Quote: Second, s
I appreciate the kind words paul and ohiogal.
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Second, several moderators have stated that they have had to correct you. Whether you think that that means "constantly correcting", that is not now, nor was it ever, the standard that has been used to choose a moderator. |
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Third, and again this was never directed at you, each of us had to earn our spurs here, so to speak. I was approached about being a moderator after being here several months. It was put oh hold because i did not have the requisites met--less than 1000 posts and was not a HOF member. You need to get off your own high horse and realize that you were put in the position you are in simply out of spite. Jason knows the mods are upset and chooses to improperly add new mods instead of supporting the ones he already has. The leadership here already adopted standards to elect new mods, and he ignored every single one of them in appointing you. Again, this is not a criticism of you, but it needs to be understood. There was a time when each of us was not ready too, that is not an attack on you in any way. |
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you became a member here a month and a week ago. Think about that.. |
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I have also had to correct moderators here before. I will find those posts and you can send a letter to Jason so he ensures they are immediately removed for being human and making an error. |
No one ever said that to be a mod you had to be perfect, but you have only been here a month, and several people have had to correct you in that time. This is not the standard that this forum has ever held for its moderators, to need correction by several mods in such a short time. It isnt my fault that you are taking this so personally. Before you decide to carry that chip on your shoulder you should consider the things you claim to know....
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I understand. Please note that I have owned 2 separate forums as well as adminned 3 others, and moderated communities with a lot more cumulative posts than this one. In terms of managing a forum, I'm quite ready. In terms of this one, like you said yourself, I had only been here a month and a week. It was unexpected but I was sent an email yesterday morning that added me to the moderator team. I did not apply for this nor did I even ask for this, so please, once again, understand that. I am happy to help wherever I can. |
1--and.....? you want a cookie now? We own a forum as well and I mod two others too....none of that had any bearing on me being a mod here. Trust me, it doesnt have anything to do with you being one. If you were smart about this, you would stop trying to make this all about you and look and see what is actually happening--since you are a mod here now,it clearly affects you. Get over yourself already....its obvious what I posted to you and its equally obvious that you choose to get butt hurt when there is no reason to.
2--since you have so much forum experience, you clearly should have known better when more than one person has told you that this is not even about you. Do yourself the favor of getting the stick out of your six o'clock.....
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Tell that to the person who emailed me telling me that I was a moderator, not me. |
When you get over yourself, you would see that i already did. Three people have reiterated to you that this was not anything personal against you....and yet you still miss the boat? I mentioned the target of my post by name, and for whatever reason that still isnt good enough for you. And that is your problem, my friend. Do us all a favor and stop trying to make it mine.
From this point on, if you still wish to pretend that I somehow attacked you over this, keep it to yourself. I noted, as did others, several times that you were not being attacked, that this was not anything against you. There aint nothing more that I can tell you--so if youre gonna complain, keep it to yourself.
I'm sorry about jumping on you - I had a very stressful last two
I'm sorry about jumping on you - I had a very stressful last two days dealing with my father's mess of finances and I just had to pay the 3,300 dollar mortgage payment on his house because of his failure to take proper care of his accounts. I've had to pull strings with my company for his bank account being overdrawn for the fourth time now and it's getting to me outside of work now too.
I again apologize. It's just that the last thing I needed was a bunch of people telling me how I am not moderator material and ending up in the middle of your disputes with the bosses here. I shouldn't have taken it out on you all but I was partly expecting this anyway. Thanks again for the kind words everyone else and sorry about jumping on you, sky.
Sky kindly note that.. a) moderators are not staffs/employees of
Sky kindly note that..
a) moderators are not staffs/employees of this site
b) decision relating to Moderator and Debt Samaritan selection will be taken by us.
c) decision relating to link permission will be taken by us.
Sky, we have replied to OG. Just a part in case you missed out.
[QUOTE]OG, the poster had mailed me some of his observations where he said your information was false. I only asked you to give a reply so that you can make your points clear from your end and we too can mail him the response from our end. I only wanted to help you out so that we can make a reply on behalf of you and even added that the mailer/poster will think twice before making complaints against our moderators,again. What was wrong here? Asking you to reply so that we can put across your view to the mailer was wrong?[/QUOTE] Reminder was for every mod here. (refer title of that thread)
One more request please just don't make comments before knowing full facts.
Oh ! OG, you will be glad to know that as we are growing fast, we will need more moderators. We have few names in mind as well :)
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Sky, we have replied to OG. Just a part in case you missed out. |
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Reminder was for every mod here. (refer title of that thread) |
The problem, Jason, is that you are so detached from what actually goes on here. Damn near every mod is trying to tell you this--so you can stop pretending that it is just something that I am saying to you. You have no idea the effort that we have gone through to ensure that this forum contains the proper information to help people. You have no clue about how much research we do/have done to provide visitors with quality information so that they come back to your forum. And you need to be intelligent enough to understand that what actually brings people to this site is the INFORMATION THEY GET HERE--its what brings them here and its what brings them back here again and again. They do not come here or stay here because you entertain absolutely retarded complaints that are not based on truth. And you give more attention to doing that than you do to what brings people back.
You want forum traffic? Stop hampering us from getting rid of false information. Imagine if someone comes here and gets bad info, they use it and get sued. And they lose in court. Do you think that they will say "well, I really got the shaft on that debt forum with the bad info I received, but hey, I will stick around there because OG said pretty please and did not delete a false post"????
I keep asking this, and you keep dodging it. What is the priority here? What is the number one priority of this forum for you? Is it traffic? Is it quality information? Pick one, because you cannot serve two masters, so to speak. And when you pick it, be kind enough to let us know what it is so we can work to that end. You claim that you want quality content, but when someone wrongly complains about OG's correcting them, you post that complaint as an example of us doing wrong! So which is it??
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I do not see anywhere where I did. However, I see where you did exactly that--where you posted a clueless complaint about one of your mods and then told us that we are not following the rules.....you did not know the "full facts" and you already pegged her as guilty.
define irony......
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