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Alliance / Hydra Fund

Date: Mon, 06/24/2013 - 10:19

Submitted by bjefbatt
on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 10:19

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Just received a phone call from a man from Alliance who proceeded to tell me I had committed wire and bank fraud and I was about to be served by the Canadian County courts. I stated I had received nothing in the mail with regard to this and I needed proof that documentation had been sent. I explained the loan had been more than paid off and he said a lot that would do me when I go to jail or i am fired because they will serve me at work.

I had 2 Hydra loans for $300 and paid them $630 each.

I thought this wasn't criminal. I have more than paid them. What do I do? The stress is killing me.


the piece of garbage at alliance broke the law hand over fist.even if you are in canada debts are civil matters.nobody is coming to your work,and as for the jail threat.that mean dick as that is the favorite threat of bottomfeeding trash.first file a police report with your local police.then ignore them btw hydra fund is based in new zealand and totally illegal.so was the call from the mutated garbage at alliance.report and ignore.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 10:47

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What do I report? To whom? I live in OKC with a police dept which is in Oklahoma county. However my house resides in Canadian county which they referenced.


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 10:52

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the police closest to you as they are the ones who would respond to calls.is there a canadian county police?if not find out which PD would you call in an emergency.use that info to file the report.btw you report the piece of garbage at alliance.use the number that came up on caller id,or the name alliance.you can file a report as again the call broke the law.last thing sorry i forgot there was a canadian county in OK.my bad.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 11:00

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This is a scam. Debts are civil not criminal! I wouldn't bother answering the phone. If you do then tell them that you will be waiting outside your home or work for them to come pick you up and for them to bring their cuffs!
No need to be stressed.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 11:07

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Just received a call from my ex husband!!! These Alliance jerks called his new wife looking for me! Leaving a voice mail that I have warrants out for my arrest and if she knows my wherabouts then she is abeiting. THAT was a conversation I wish I had never received. Other than alerting the authorities, what should I do?? I feel like I now need to alert every person I know!!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 15:04

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I would let people know that you have been a victim of fraud if they receive these calls to let you know.. I would recommend file complaints with the FTC..


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Submitted by HelpinAZ on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 15:30

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I have filed a complaint with the FTC, and it turns out this place called my work TWICE today. I also have a call into the OKC PD to file a report. I don't know what else to do. I wish I was as calm about this as you all are. Personally, I am petrified as well as embarassed that they called my coworkers


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 16:06

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You can send them a cease and desist letter via certified mail return receipt requested.. but illegal lenders and bottom feeding collections agency have a tendency to not follow the rules.. filing complaints may help! If they continue you can sue them.


lrhall41

Submitted by HelpinAZ on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 05:43

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Give them a taste of their own medicine. Call them constantly, treat them the same way they are treating you. Remind them that you have filed a police report and a complaint with the FTC. Assure them if they continue you will contact a lawyer and sue them. I would for sure let everyone know that I have been a victim of fraud and to ignore the calls. Relax it will stop.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 10:31

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I am trying to find a way to laugh at this even though I was sent home today from work to "take care of this". I spoke with 2 people at "Alliance" in Phoenix. I asked for:

an address- nope, we don't give that out in order to protect our employees.

are you collecting a debt: no, we are a prelitigation firm. we are instructed by our attorneys to offer you a settlement

can you send me something in writing to validate this debt: no, we keep that information for ourselves to show the judge

youre a lawfirm? I have a legal right to the information you have that supports or denies this is a valid debt: no, you have the information. it comes to us after 2 rounds of trying to collect from you.

can you prove that I have been offered in writing on two occasions a settlement: no, I don't have that information, you do

you state I am being offered a precourt settlement yet you are not providing me with a website, address or copies of debt proof? yes, you don't need to know our private information (yes, I literally laughed out loud)

I then said ok, then serve me. Oh, we will. We guarantee it.

I then received 3 more phone calls in the last hour.

I believe I am in hell.


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:10

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you are not.you just think you are.if your job is that uncaring.time to find a new job.sorry to be harsh,but if you told them what others advised.that these are fraudsters callling and they still do that.well again time to find a new job.in fact use that time off to start.also time to get pissed at these losers,and wastes.everytime they call,and i mean everytime.file new FTC,and AG complaints.do it,and start letting these pieces of garbage know that you are aware of their bottomfeeder status,and are through arguing on the phone with them.yes ignore,and do not call them anymore as your last post speeled out they are scum that lie through their false/rotting teeth.time to get mad and use that when dealing with this from now on.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:17

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no such thing as "pre litigation"...it is a scare tactic

What state are you in?? What phone number did they call you from.

Have fun with them...do you have an airhorn??


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Submitted by SOAPLADY on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:18

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I so wish I had an airhorn!! I have Vista now calling me and CashNet refuses to comply with my "no phone call" c&d letter. Oh. My. God. Shame on me for being in the situation to need them in the first place.

The number is 855-826-8842. They state they are based in Phoenix but the AZ AG office just laughed.


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:25

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@soaplady an airhorn or a whistle works well! .
@bjefbatt. I agree with Paul you might want to consider looking for a new job if they sent you home to take care of it. However, we don't know the type of place you work in and it could cause a problem in some work places if the calls continue. I would keep stating to them if I have to speak with them that I am aware there is no such thing as "pre Litigation" and that you have filed all the complaints, ftc, bbb, police, etc. If you can avoid the calls then do so but if not say what you have to say and hang up, evidentually they will stop.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:27

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just let them have it one day.just explode all over them.get all that frustation out.then tell your work"any calls from the losers i will handle it".


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:34

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Is the CashnetUSA? If so, they appear to be legal in Oklahoma, that where you are right? If it is Cashnetusa, then you may can work out an epp with them.
Share the status of the cashnet loan and maybe someone her can help with what to do.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 12:45

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Yes, CashNetUSA is the pdl. I am scheduled to make my first payment to them on the 8th of July via MoneyGram. This is a good faith payment as I do not have a plan as they will not email me but just calls.... and calls.... and calls. All in all they are the only one who is "legal". CashCall doesn't even call me anymore but I did get a letter from them today.

The letter is from CashCall but the loan originated with WS. Of course it's blah blah blah Cheyenne River Sioux etc. They admitted the loan was sold to CashCall and my balance now is over $3000 with a remaining principal balance of $2595.86. They urge me to contact them to work out an arrangement. My offer (unless advised otherwise) is a prinicipal balance of $2595 with interest frozen, payable at $100 per month via moneygram

What do you think?


lrhall41

Submitted by bjefbatt on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 13:17

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being as they being put through the ringer by a few AG'S i wouldn't acknowledge anything in writing as they know it's an illegal debt,but if you sign or agree to any arrangement it will be done under cashcall.beware any letters.you can PM helpinaz for further tips on dealing with CC/WS.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 13:42

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Glad to help you with WS/CC - pm if you would like.. and don't send them anything for now - they have to agree to what you are offering first.. you will get lots of mail from them - stay off the phone and don't return anything to them at all... just file it away!! Your loan was not sold to Cash Call - Cash Call is only servicing the loan - and it has been determined that WS and CC are one in the same.. a few months from now you will be turned over to Delbert Services which is also CC and you will send them a C&D..


lrhall41

Submitted by HelpinAZ on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 14:54

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