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Date: Fri, 06/28/2013 - 07:37
In acknowledgment of the letter we received by email, we would like to clarify the issues pertaining to the transaction you originated with Mypaydayloan.com.
First, we wish to remind you that all correspondence from Mypaydayloan.com is copyrighted, and you consented to such before applying for an advance.
Specifically, the website states:
Except where expressly provided otherwise herein, all emails, comments, feedback, information or materials submitted to Mypaydayloan.com through or in association with this web site ("Submissions") shall be considered Mypaydayloan.com's copyrighted property. By providing such Submissions to Mypaydayloan.com, you agree to assign to Mypaydayloan.com all worldwide rights, title and interest in the copyrights and other intellectual property rights to the Submissions.
Any publication, posting, or dissemination of such information is in direct violation of this agreement and you will then be liable for copyright infringement, disclosure of confidential information, and breach of contract. Additionally, because it would be difficult, if not impossible, to determine the amount of damages to Mypaydayloan.com, you will be liable for liquidated damages in the amount of $25,000, per violation, for your publication, posting, or dissemination of information from or relating to Mypaydayloan.com. You agreed to this provision immediately after your email was validated, and before you proceeded with the application. Failure to remove any postings within two business days of receipt of this letter may result in a civil suit for liquidated damages.
Mypaydayloan.com is a Costa Rican corporation with servers, offices, employees, and all other important elements of the transaction located in Costa Rica. You engaged in an unsolicited transaction with Mypaydayloan.com, a Costa Rican company. Furthermore, in the contract you agreed that the transaction would be deemed to occur in our country, Costa Rica, and you agreed to be bound by Costa Rican Law.
Specifically, the contract you signed in order to receive an advance clearly states:
GOVERNING LAW: Both this agreement and the application is considered to be executed at our offices in San Jose, Costa Rica, and this transaction and agreement with us shall be governed by, construed, and enforced solely in accordance with the internal laws of Costa Rica.
Forum selection clauses, like the one above, are supported by U.S. case law. For example, see the opinion of the United States Supreme Court in M/S Bremen v. Zapata Off-Shore Co., 407 U.S. 1, (1972). Likewise, U.S. courts have upheld the sovereignty of foreign entities engaging in unsolicited business in the United States. Crown Beverage Co., Inc. v. Cerveceria Moctezuma, S.A., 663 F.2d 886, 888 (9th Cir. 1981).
Furthermore, the controlling forum for a contract is determined by the “lex loci contractus,” which is the law of the place where a contract is made. A contract is deemed to be executed where the final act necessary to make it binding has been completed. In this instance, the transaction was not binding until reviewed and approved by Mypaydayloan.com, after they received all information from you to make a decision to enter into the agreement. Hence, the final act to make the transaction binding was in the jurisdiction of Costa Rica, and that country’s laws are binding. See e.g., Mitsubishi Int'l Corp. v. Clark Pipe & Supply Co., Inc., 735 F.2d 160, 164 (5th Cir. 1984).
Lastly, any comment about specific interest rate caps based on the laws of your state simply do not apply, as the money transferred to you was an advance on a check, and not a loan. There are important differences that are a benefit to you and should be clarified.
First, in order for a transaction to be a loan, it must accrue interest. You were charged a flat fee per $100 dollars advanced. Because a fee is not interest, there is no accrual element to this transaction. When you defaulted you were not charged a percentage of the unpaid balance. You were charged a fee for defaulting, and you may have also been charged an NSF fee, if applicable, both of which you agreed to in the contract.
Secondly, if a transaction is a loan, it has a compounding element whereby any unpaid charges would be included in the interest calculation and added to the total amount owed. Instead, in your transaction with us, you agreed to be charged flat fees for overdue balances and other breaches of your contract. Those fees do not compound or increase as the unpaid balance goes up.
As such, the standard usury laws—or maximum allowed interest rates—do not apply to this transaction. This principle is no different than when your bank charges you an overdraft fee to cover a check where there are not enough funds in the account to cover the check. You were advanced funds based on your next check from your employer. So whether that was five days away or twenty, the fee is the same.
You are hereby advised to abide by the agreements in your contract with Mypaydayloan.com, and contact the collections department to make a payment arrangement. Failure to do so within two business days of receipt of this letter will result in your account being reported to appropriate credit agencies as in default of your obligations, and sent to an outside collection agency, which will subject you to additional fees and may prevent future credit transactions with other companies. Your balance is $520, and you are due today, 6/28/13. As a courtesy we can accept your principle balance of $400 in one payment on or before 7/1/13, to pay your account in full. Your other option is to pay your balance of $520 in 2 biweekly payments of $260, beginning 7/1/13. You can use MoneyGram, ACH debit, or credit card to submit your payments. If you default on your due date of today, which we are actually extending to 7/1 for you, your account will be in jeopardy of assessing the late charges as outlined in your contract.
I received this one from Advance To Me. They say they received a payment but they did not, so I am not sure what they are saying here.
Thank you for your loan payment in the amount of $195.00 on Friday June 28, 2013 on loan number 321553. Your confirmation number is: 2250124
Your remaining principal balance after the payment is: $0.00 and the due date for your next payment is Friday July 12, 2013.
Depending on your bank, it may take three to five days for this transaction to appear on your bank statement. You can check your loan status at any time by visiting www.AdvanceMeToday.com and clicking on 'My Account'.
We thank for coming to AdvanceMeToday.com, and appreciate your business.
The Advance Me Today Team
customersupport@advancemetoday.com
888-408-4394
888-660-2984 FAX
http://www.AdvanceMeToday.com
Dear Mypaydayloan.com
Dear Mypaydayloan.com
You are full of shit. You know damn well you are not licensed in the US and your loans are illegal. I am not a resident of Costa Rica and I am not subject to your laws. Your legal references do not scare me as they are commercial contracts, not consumer law. Legally the contract is NULL and VOID and since I have paid you more than the principal borrowed, I will consider this matter closed. So do yourself a favor and mark my account closed.
Govern yourself accordingly
Sounds like advance me today ignored your ACH revocation. You might want to remind them that the payment will be returned.
Here is the response from
Here is the response from MyPaydayloan.com
The transaction that you initiated has been explained to you, in fact it was explained to you BEFORE you signed the contract and accepted the funds. If you didn't agree you simply should have exited the application process and requested that it be cancelled and that we NOT deposit funds into your bank account. Be advised, that if you choose to ignore the facts presented in the explanation, not honor your contract and not pay your debt then collection procedures will continue. If we cannot collect then it will be forwarded to an outside collection agency.
Thank you! I will send them
Thank you! I will send them the email and resend the letter to Advance Me Today.
so
send this response:
send it to an outside collector.they will most likely be a lawbreaking bottomfeeder lik you are a lawbreaking offshore pdl.they will given a c&d so fast it's not funny.you will not get another dime.bottomline.
send that response as we can help with any pieces of garbage that contact you on this.
I found this interesting -
I found this interesting - "Your remaining principal balance after the payment is: $0.00 and the due date for your next payment is Friday July 12, 2013." so if you owe nothing - how do you have a payment due?
That was what made me
That was what made me confused. So is this their way of saying my account is paid?
Apparently the Advance Me
Apparently the Advance Me Today is considered paid off. I am very confused because I did not give them anymore money but I am not going to argue with them.
This is from their website.
Loan Start Date: 3/29/2013
Original Loan Amount: $200.00
Loan Status: Cooldown
Last Payment Amount: $195.00
Last Payment Date: 6/28/2013
Last Payment Type: Payoff
Current Principal Balance: $0.00
Accrued Finance Charges: $0.00
Payday Loan from Payday Max
Payday Loan from Payday Max is also paid off.
Loan Balance:
$0.00
Date Due:
N/A
Now to deal with MyPaydayLoan.com. Thank you to everyone here, you all have been life savers!
I would print both of the
I would print both of the above and keep in a safe place and great news on both of them... Keep us posted on the last one..
So now Advance Me Today is
So now Advance Me Today is not considered paid off, they have me owing them for NF charges. I resent them the orignial letter and sent the C&D letter to PayDayMax because they are the one using the Credit Depot Collection company. Any advice on them would be appreciated please.
Mypaydayloan
I'm dealing w/the same garbage from mypaydayloan (oops, did I violate copyright laws?). Up to now, I have been successful settling with my other pdls by using the info found in these forums and my own research. I live in PA and have been in contact with the PA Banking Dept and State Attny General; both confirmed that payday lending is illegal in PA. The places settled w/include: Plain Green (asked for refund, nothing); Moliloans, EZpaydaycash, 500fashcash, and paydaymobility (only response was a nasty phone call). I placed an ACH hold on an upcoming payment to them; I had borrowed from them before, always paid in full on my due date. Then I realized how much "interest" I had already paid them, so I proposed an amount that was principle minus interest for last 3 loans. They sent me all that mumbo-gumbo about Costa Rica laws; they don't do loans, but do advances on checks (funny but the word loan is plastered all over their website; hell, it's in the name of the company); they don't charge interest, but charge flat fees....blah, blah, blah. I have given them 3 offers (I upped the payback am't slightly each time). But, they still won't buge. I did file a complaint with the PA banking Dept and waiting for the form from the Atty General. I told them of my intentions, but don't think they believed me. Since this started, I've gotten a phone call each day at work; all I say is please see the letter I sent, I won't comment on phone, put it in writing, good-bye. The latest response is that they will sent my account to an outside collections agency. Anyone out there have info about this; do they, and if so what agencies? How can someone collect on a debt that can't be validated or illegal?
Anyone have any dealings with
Anyone have any dealings with 500 Fast Cash. I received a settlement email today and I'm not sure what to do. Pay it or not? I live in NYS
500FastCash
I recently settled with 500FastCash. Received 400 and med payments = 360. In my letter, I told them I owed $40. Had to haggle with them, they wanted $160 (400-120 service fee) I finally agreed to $80 and paid it off via prepaid debit card that only had a $90 balance. I read where they are one of several defendents in a lawsuit filed by the FTC. I live in PA where payday loans are illegal. Good luck.
Any reason this thread is
Any reason this thread is stickied or can we get rid of it to reduce some of the clutter at the top?
- I think the sticky happened
- I think the sticky happened on accident - I went ahead an removed the sticky!! Nice to see you on!