The difference between irresponsibility and circumstances
Date: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 08:03
Submitted by Jedi Mistress Ari
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Sat, 01/07/2006 - 08:03
Total Replies: 117
As I look thoughout this forum, I see other collectors stopping in as guests simply to lambaste the debtors in this forum, calling them deadbeats and scolding them for being debtors. Then they go on to defend the collectors being complained about in the forum, the ones who use illegal harassing tactics in the name of recovery.
Like I stated earlier, I did not crawl out from under a rock one morning, traipse into a collection agency and have a job handed to me. I know how the world functions. I approach each debtor with an open mind. After all, I don't know them from Adam, therefore I can't determine why they are in debt until I talk to them.
There is a great difference between being caught up in circumstances and being completely irresponsible. This something each collector must be aware of.
A perfect example of a very unique circumstance is the one being experienced by Mom of Twins, a forum member. She is a hardworking family woman who had been robbed blind, and then ridiculed by the original creditors. Now the collectors who call her are treating her like an irresponsible oaf! Where is the open-mindedness in that?
Statistically, I would say that roughly 25% of the debtor population are the truly irresponsible. The other 75% consist of people like Mom of Twins who have been ripped off, people who are newly disabled and have settlements pending, people who have been unemployed since their default date and still searching for gainful employment, and people who have disputes against the original creditors for reasons of their own.
A perfect example of an irresponsible debtor is the person I called yesterday. She had defaulted on a credit card. Why? Because she got pregnant and quit her job! She was not married, and had three kids. So she basically blew off her original creditor. This is the very definition of irresponsibility! People like this who do not think before they act, and who do not make sure all loose ends are tied before having children. Of course, she was angry with me for putting her on an affordable six month payment arrangement! This really is the limit of my compassion, people who do stupid things like this!
Another reason why this situation irks me so much is because, for the past 50 years or so, we women have been busting our **** to prove ourselves in society and in the workplace. Any woman who can take on the challenge of career and family, more power to you! But women who shirk financial responsibility in the name of motherhood, and possibly going on public assistance to boot, are disastrous to our progress in gaining full equality. It hasn't been attained yet! No female President yet! Still no equal pay for equal work!
Overall, sometimes everyone has huge problems to overcome, but shame on us if we create these problems for ourselves.
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Yes it is. And to think, when I got a call from them asking me i
Yes it is. And to think, when I got a call from them asking me if I was still interested in a position with them, I said "Yes, very much!" and now I'd rather go have a few teeth pulled than go back to that office!
LOL!! I hate the dentist, but I totally agree with your analogy
LOL!! I hate the dentist, but I totally agree with your analogy, I would never go back to my old job!!
~Mary
I'm only afraid that my old manager will do something crappy, li
I'm only afraid that my old manager will do something crappy, like call up my new manager and tell him that I didn't finish out my last two weeks...only because I couldn't stand to be there!
Well Ari, it would be easy for you to explain how horribly you w
Well Ari, it would be easy for you to explain how horribly you were treated, and even show him the e-mail you sent. They are lucky you even put in a two week notice in the first place!!
~Mary
Yeah, they already know. I just hope it doesn't have to come to
Yeah, they already know. I just hope it doesn't have to come to me having to explain myself at all. I believe my former manager has enough social grace NOT to completely sabotage me. Besides, since he had nothing nice to say about TruGreen and very little nice things to say about me, then he may let it be believing that it's a perfect match.
That is a very good point....chances are, he's thinking you are
That is a very good point....chances are, he's thinking you are going to hate it at your new employer, since he doesn't like them anyway. It should work out just fine :)
~Mary
So far, no calls of e-mails from anybody that would suggest a ch
So far, no calls of e-mails from anybody that would suggest a change in my plans!
Yaaay! I just got back from filling out all the new hire paperwo
Yaaay! I just got back from filling out all the new hire paperwork at TruGreen-ChemLawn! I'm officially in the club. Newly knighted as a Lawn Girl!
Yay for you, Ari!! I just found out that there is a TruGreen-Ch
Yay for you, Ari!! I just found out that there is a TruGreen-ChemLawn office a couple street over from my work! :)
~Mary
Hi Ari, Congratulations on your new job of TruGreen-ChemLawn
Hi Ari,
Congratulations on your new job of TruGreen-ChemLawn. :D Do you have the experience of the work that you will be doing here, or will you be experiencing a new platform? I am sure you will manage everything with the confidence you have in you.
What are the job timings? Tell us more about it. I am feeling curious? :D
Regards
Roxette
The kind of experience I have that won over my new 22 year old b
The kind of experience I have that won over my new 22 year old boss is my experience in being outgoing and building friendly rapport that I did in student loan collections, he was also interested in my gardening knowledge from my year at Home Depot. I worked in Ouside Garden, Greenhouse, and Lumber, all natural products. In Outside Garden I got to know all about lawn and landscape care, in the greenhouse I got to learn about ph testing in soil and water samples, also about what each different plant grows best in. You can't grow vegetables in the same soil as your flowerbed. The different plants have different needs. In Lumber, I was the only female in an already understaffed department. It was on me to take care of all the customers, and it was fun. The people that shopped in lumber were mostly contractors who were impressed to see a woman using power saws and driving the forklifts. It helped me become even more outgoing.
The schedule for ChemLawn is 2-3 hours in the morning out running leads, that is traveling around town (company pays for gas) surveying business and residential landscapes, measuring them, maybe taking soil samples, and then leaving a note on their door telling them to expect a call from me and why. Then starting at 3 pm is six hours spent in the branch office calling all my leads. Its about 45-50 hours a week, average first year reps make $35-45k in their first year. Pretty sensible for someone with a Bachelor's degree in marketing.
I think you will do just great, Ari! Sounds like it's right up
I think you will do just great, Ari! Sounds like it's right up your alley, and fun at the same time! I like that kind of schedule...it let's you go to yoga class right after lunch ;)
~Mary
Yes it's perfect. I'm not a morning person, I hate having to dra
Yes it's perfect. I'm not a morning person, I hate having to drag myself out of bed at 6 am by alarm clock and then race against time to be on time at 8. I don't like coffee that much either, so I don't normally depend on caffeine to keep me alive.
My Bosu came in today! I'm so excited! You should get one, they rock! It's like half of a stability ball on a platform, and you do a combo of yoga, weights, and aerobics on it and it helps you fine tune your balance!
That sounds great Ari, I will look into a Bosu!! ~Mary
That sounds great Ari, I will look into a Bosu!!
~Mary
They're at Target, Wal-Mart and other department stores, you cou
They're at Target, Wal-Mart and other department stores, you could also buy them online, or get one for less on e-bay. The Bosu and yoga are what my mom turned to when she decided it was time to give up the weights. She's 51 and had been an active bodybuilder since her early 30's, she still looks young and is in top shape, but whether one likes it or not, prolonged weightlifting does joint damage and causes problems with loose skin when you do it so long that your body doesn't fit into your skin anymore.
As soon as I get some loans going, I am definitely jumping on e-
As soon as I get some loans going, I am definitely jumping on e-bay for that :)
~Mary
It tried mine for the first time this morning with the included
It tried mine for the first time this morning with the included exercise tape. It's challenging! After 20 minutes I was sweating buckets! It's a lot of fun and the guy who invented it is so cute!