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Found out I was being served via a FB friend.

Date: Thu, 08/23/2012 - 16:48

Submitted by E46
on Thu, 08/23/2012 - 16:48

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I rented a room at a house in Seattle,Washington about 7 years ago. I had since moved all over the US. I moved back to Seattle for the Summer and a friend told me ( On Face Book) that the people next door were served court papers...

A server came and asked for me. He was told that I hadn't lived there in years and had only rented a room for 6months or so.

He left and must have came back that same night because papers were found on the front porch and the the wind blew them all over the lawn

I pretty much heard through the grapevine that I was being sued by this Suttle and Associates Law firm.

I still havent seen the papers in person but What If I hadnt gotten the Face book message?

you can actually sue someone without them knowing?


First things first--this was illegally done. A process server attests to the court that you were duly and properly served, thats their job. This guy acted 100% illegally.

OK, did your friend actually talk to the process server?

Here is what I would do--I would have your friend prepare a written statement. In that statement, he needs to state the dates and times of the events. he needs to state that the process server asked for you by name and was told that you are no longer connected to that address. Then he needs to state that the process server came back later and dumped the papers on the porch anyways. This process server will have to issue a proof of service to the court, stating that he properly served you the summons in accordance with the law. Clearly he did not.

Your friend needs to get that statement notarized. Then you make three copies of it--one for you, one for the plaintiff, and one for the court.

Before we continue there, what state do you now live in? What kind of debt is it, and how long ago did it first become past due? This is important, as it could be out of statute due to age, and if it is, they are probably trying to fraudulently get a default judgment against you. You need to attack this one head-on.

Your very next step would be to check with the clerk of courts in the county where they sued you. You may be able to check this online--you need to review the full docket for your case. You are specifically looking to see who is suing you, and what, if anything, it says about proof of service. While your friend is working on that statement, check into that. Be sure to get back to us about the questions I asked--it makes a difference in how you should address this.

Once you have checked that out with the court, get back to us and let us know what you have found out. We can gladly help you from there.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 20:07

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That is false information. The SOL that applies is the one in the state you currently reside in. There is no guessing on this one, I know it to be fact. There are some cases where this would be different, but generally speaking, your current state of residence is the SOL that applies to your debts.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 05:45

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First I would like to say THANK YOU for the response. Cannot tell you how much its appreciated :)

- yes, he and his roommate talked with the Server
- They are writing out their statements over the weekend to be notarized next week.
- I'm in Washington state.
- Old Credit card account
- I think the account became past due about 6 or 7yrs ago
- Plantiffs are MRC receivables corp. using local Lawfirm Suttle and Hammer
- Im going to my public storage unit to get my old records in the morning for exact answers...its been so long.

Will post back shortly....THANKS!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by E46 on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 20:54

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[QUOTE]First I would like to say THANK YOU for the response. Cannot tell you how much its appreciated :smile:

- yes, he and his roommate talked with the Server
- They are writing out their statements over the weekend to be notarized next week.[/QUOTE]

Thats great--if you would like, I would be happy to help review everything to make sure that you have what you need. Just let me know.

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- I'm in Washington state.
- Old Credit card account


OK, in WA the SOL is 6 years from the original date of delinquency.

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- I think the account became past due about 6 or 7yrs ago
- Plantiffs are MRC receivables corp. using local Lawfirm Suttle and Hammer


OK, this law firm is bad news. They love to go after debts that are out of statute or that they have nothing at all that proves their case on. I just did a quick search and found dozens of complaints about them. Another trick of theirs, as you are seeing right now, is to try to get default judgments illegally by lying to the court. In your case, if they have not already, the process server will soon be providing a document to the court to show proof of proper service. You do not need to worry though--you are catching this at the right time to keep that from happening.

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- Im going to my public storage unit to get my old records in the morning for exact answers...its been so long.


Perfect--let me know what you find. Old statements from the original creditor would be perfect, if you happen to find any.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 22:13

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OK, The original creditor outsourced the debt to a collection agency in 2004.
Then it went to another agency in 2004 and finally these (MRC) guys in 2004.

I have the original Docs from 2004

So, do I present this info to the Law firm in hopes that they drop it, or just show up to court with this documentation?

I would rather not go to court if that's a possibility?

THANK YOU


lrhall41

Submitted by E46 on Sun, 08/26/2012 - 20:09

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OK, so the debt is outside the SOL.

You need to check the docket to see if the debt collector is claiming you were properly served. Before I would do anything in this case I would check that. If the process server lied about the service, tell us what they have said to the court for proof of service.

Your next step relies upon finding out this information, so do that first and let us know what you find about how they reported proof of service to the court. At that point, you may end up having grounds for a lawsuit of your own....you have time still before it would get to judgment time, so do not worry about that just yet.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Thu, 08/30/2012 - 10:43

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This story has taken another turn........

it seems that there was already a default judgement against me from them several years ago for this case and this is their attempt at collecting! :shock:

The want the original cc amount , plus their fees and INTEREST for years!

I went down to the court house to view the docket and it reads that the process server gave the original paperwork to the person who owned that house...and listed their name.

The dates do not match the time frame that I stayed there. I actually had my own place at the date/time shown on the paperwork.

so all of this is an attempt to collect a previous judgement that i knew nothing of. :(


can it get any worse?!?! :confused:


lrhall41

Submitted by E46 on Fri, 09/07/2012 - 02:28

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OK, this is actually good news, believe it or not. I'll explain....

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it seems that there was already a default judgement against me from them several years ago for this case and this is their attempt at collecting!


OK, your first task is to learn everything you can about that other case against you--where it was, when it was, the docket notes on service, etc etc. Your aim is to verify that you were not ever notified about the case. You need to find out those things, and then compare the details to where you were at the time that case was filed. If you did not live at the address where they served the summons, you want to be able to show it. If you did not live in that state even at that time, even better. The end result is that we want to show that they sued you without you ever being notified, which deprived you of your right to due process. That way, we will attempt to get the original judgment vacated--thrown out, in other words--for improper service.

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The want the original cc amount , plus their fees and INTEREST for years!


This is common, we will handle their failure to legally serve the summons.

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I went down to the court house to view the docket and it reads that the process server gave the original paperwork to the person who owned that house...and listed their name.


You now have a legitimate argument against the service of this new case as well--because you will have the notarized statement from your friend, in which he notified the server that you are no longer connected to that address. What the process server did was not legal. They cannot just leave the summons at any house they choose--the process serving laws require that they leave the summons at an address known to be your residence or place of business. If it is not known to be your residence--or more importantly, if it is KNOWN NOT TO BE your residence, then they are not supposed to leave it there. And your friend can testify that he so notified the server that you do not live there. They dumped this summons because they did not care about following the law. The sad thing is they often get away with it.

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The dates do not match the time frame that I stayed there. I actually had my own place at the date/time shown on the paperwork.


OK, so that is for the first case? Thats good--you need to find proof of that address you lived at, if possible. It will support your argument to have the judgment vacated. Was the address you lived at in the same county as where they claimed to have served you? Let me know. I can help you put this all together. Thanks

Jon


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Fri, 09/07/2012 - 07:09

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Thank you so much...

The original summons reads: I duly served a Mr. XXX (me) at his residence and usual place of abode, by then and there personally delivering a true and correct copy therof and leaving the same with Mr. XXXX , roommate.

Which is totally not true. I owned my own place at the time ( public record) they claimed to have served me there.

Also reads that i'm married...i've never been close to being married.
:confused:


lrhall41

Submitted by E46 on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 11:48

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Regarding the name listed as your roommate, do you know that person? If so, how do you know them--a neighbor, friend, relative?

At this point, you can file an order to show cause--motion to vacate due to improper service. Your state's rules of civil procedure will tell you if the motion needs to be in a specific format or not. Usually, a motion is just typed up and filed with the court. We can help you put one together. When you do this, you will need to make three copies--one for the court, one for the plaintiff's attorney, and one for yourself. Get back to me about the roommate they named, and also please tell me more about this "married" bit....


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 14:19

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The name they gave is a friends dad. He said he's never heard anything about them (looking for me) until this last guy came by to serve papers.

They asked if he were "me", he told them "no, my name is Joe" They said OK, left and then came back later that evening and left the papers on the front porch. Joe found them the next morning...and then we had the grapevine effect.

The complaint reads: Mr. xxxx , is believed to be a married individual.

But ive never been engaged or married or anything close to that.


thank you


lrhall41

Submitted by E46 on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 15:02

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