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Law firm/Collection agency filed summons after I sent letter of validation

Date: Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:00

Submitted by kdestef
on Mon, 03/21/2011 - 11:00

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Hi, recently I posted that I was served with a Summons by Ferrell and Seldin for a Midland Credit collections company. I was told that if there was no case number most likely they had not even filed the case yet and to send a letter for validation. I did check with my local court and they in fact had not filed the summons.

I sent a letter of validation to Ferrell and Seldin and to Midland Credit collections on March 7th certified mail with a return receipt. They received and signed for the letter of validation on March 8th.

I called the courts today to see if they filed the summons they sent to me yet. They did file it on March 16th, 1 week after they received my letter of validation.

Their summons (that was not even filed yet) that was served me was the first I had even heard of the claim of debt and I said so in my letter of validation. They obviously have not sent me anything validating their claims.

Do I have any leverage given the fact that they received my letter of validation 1 week before they filed the summons? Obviously my next step is to file my response, but do I want to file a counterclaim? What should be my next steps?

Thanks,
kdestef


Has the summons actually been filed with the court? Check with the clerk. If so, you definitely need to respond to it. You can ask for validation of the debt, how they arrived at the amounts they're asking for and vailidation of their ability to collect during the discovery process. You might consider a countersuit since you weren't afforded the opportunity to have the debt validated during the 30 days, which is your right.


lrhall41

Submitted by OhioGal1 on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:50

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Hi OhioGal,
It has been filed. I sent my DV March 7th, I received my return receipt card back showing they received my DV March 8th. I called the courts on the March 21st and found out they filed it on March 16th, 8 days after they received the DV. I plan to respond. I looked on the NACA website and found an attorney in my area. I emailed them but have received no response so I plan to call them today. I'll see if they recommend a countersuit, they definitely DID NOT provide me documentation validating it. Thanks!

kdestefa


lrhall41

Submitted by kdestef on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:45

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The FDCPA contains an exception for legal action, so the fact that they've actually sued you renders your validation request pointless. You could try to fight them on it, but I doubt it would work unless your state has stricter rules than the FDCPA (some states do).
What are you planning on filing a counter-claim for, exactly?


lrhall41

Submitted by DestyNova on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 17:31

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it doesn't ohiogal.this guy started a thread about working for a collector in FL.i suspected he worked for a bottomfeeder.now i know it as not only is midland one of the biggest bottomfeeders out there as they always collect on debt past SOL.btw the fact that midland does this with regularity is the reason to dispute the debt.bottomline the OP should file a discovery motion asap.meaning they get the validation they seek.i would bet midland one of the dirtiest JDB'S can't prove their case.to close their is no provision in THE FDCPA that states that a lawsuit can be filed in direct response to a DV letter.now if the debt is validated and the person still doesn't pay then yes suit can be filed,but not in direct rsponse to a DV.i suggest destynova get back to the phones of their bottomfeeder.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 03/25/2011 - 07:14

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Yes, however, I asked for validation prior to them suing me so I'd like to know exactly where this "exception" is because I'm looking at the FDCPA right now and I don't see any "exceptions" as you claim. Hmmm...

Additionally, I have sent a DV after I've been sued and still won the case. Just because you JDC's sue a consumer, it doesn't mean you don't have to still PROVE that you own the debt or have the right to collect on the debt. As in my case about 4 months ago when I beat a JDC in court because they showed generic proof that they owned the debt; iow, it wasnt' specific to my account.


lrhall41

Submitted by kdestef on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 10:01

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