Hi ho, Hi ho, it's off to court I go....
Date: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 15:04
Mann Bracken has be harassing me non-stop for over a month now. They generally call about 20 times a day, but the peak was when they called 43 (yes 43!) times on a Sunday between noon and 2pm. Do the math. That's 21 times an hour, once every 2 minutes.... Most of the time I was hung up on or I got pushed to a voice recording, that's if I bothered picking up.
Any how, last week I invested in the voice recorder. When Mann Bracken called at 7:55am I immediately turned it on. Since, I'm in PA, I needed their permission to record. So, when someone actually answered, they gave me their mini-miranda and told me the call may be recorded.
So, I informed them that I was also recording the call, that if they did NOT wish to be recorded, please hang up. That if they continued speaking I would consider that their consent to record.
The lady told me "whatever" and kept talking. Bingo!
She told me she has my private student loan in her office and that she was filing court documents. I asked if she was an attorney and she mumbled something, so I asked her to speak clearer. She then said no she wasn't. I asked if an attorney had even looked at my file. Once again, the answer was no.
I told her that I'd like to make monthly payments. She laughed and told me to get real. But then said that they would take $10,000 down and $3,000 per month after that.
I told her that was absolutely not affordable, that my husband doesn't even MAKE $3,000 a month and we have a baby on the way. I explained that I'm due in a month.
Her response was (and this is a direct quote):
"Well, now isn't that interesting. You can't afford your bills, but you can afford a baby? I'm making a notation in your file here. When we hang up I'm calling child services in your area. When I tell them you are too poor to pay your bills, they'll come and take your child."
At this point I get upset because NO ONE threatens my unborn child. I tell her she's full of it, that if child services took every child from a home with too much debt, that no one in this country would have kids!
Then she continues:
"Oh, they will. They'll come and take the child. They'll snatch the kid out of your hands as soon as you give birth. You'll never see the kid again. So, is your kid worth $10,000?"
At that point I was too upset to continue and I told her that I was ending the call. That the call had been recorded and I would be speaking to an attorney. Then she tried to back track and say she didn't give me permission to record. I repeated to her what I had said in the beginning. I've never been so glad to have something on tape in my life. I knew Mann Bracken were scum, but that was low. Threatening to have a child taken over debt. This is after they've threatened previously to take my dog because he's an asset they could sell to satisfy my debt. I wish I had THAT convo recorded.
Regardless, I called a local attorney today and he put me in touch with an FDCPA attorney in my area. He thinks I have quite the strong case against Mann Bracken. Especially considering the fact you could hear me crying and obviously upset on the phone as she threatened to take my child.
Obviously I know in my heart they can't do that. But I'm 8 months pregnant and I dare any mother to say she wouldn't be upset when someone is threatening to take your child, no matter how crazy it seems.
Can't wait for my day in court. No one should have to be treated the way they treated me.
WOW. I have heard some good calls but that one takes the cake.
WOW. I have heard some good calls but that one takes the cake. You will probably make $3-5K off that call.
But you still have the issue of the loan. Private loans do sue as a course of business.
I'm aware they sue. And I'm trying to pay something. I'm not try
I'm aware they sue. And I'm trying to pay something. I'm not trying to stiff them their money. I just settled 2 of my other debts. So, I'm working on it. But I can't pay them what I don't have.
Asking me to pay $3,000 a month when my husband only brings home $2600 is crazy. I was tempted to ask her, even if they sue, how does she thinks she's getting $3,000 a month. I owe more on my mortgage than it's worth. I have 2 cars, but that won't even come close to touching the debt. I own nothing of real value...
Plus, and correct me if I'm wrong. Only Government student loans can garnish wages in PA correct? Private student loans and credit cards can't garnish, right?
Even if they can. I believe 25% is the maximum. So she still won't be getting $3,000 a month. They can try to put a lien on my bank account, but we can live without one considering my husbands paycheck comes from a local bank and we can always cash them there.
So really, you'd think they'd want to work with me in some capacity...
You were upset...I think you should immediately go see your doct
You were upset...I think you should immediately go see your doctor.....then take that little dr trip with you to court and show how her illegal threats caused you undue stress and could have effected the life of your unborn...this is a seriously evil thing they did...a company did that to me once as well, back when I didn't know squat about the laws. Take them for everything you can!
I've already been to the doctor today. I actually had my weekly
I've already been to the doctor today. I actually had my weekly check up to go to. My blood pressure was through the roof! That's from a mix of things, but regardless, her behaving the way she did really didn't help.
Quote:Originally Posted by anc526I'm going to be going to court.
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Originally Posted by anc526 I'm going to be going to court. And I'm actually happy about it. After taking the advice of so many smart people here, I invested in a small voice recorder. Mann Bracken has be harassing me non-stop for over a month now. They generally call about 20 times a day, but the peak was when they called 43 (yes 43!) times on a Sunday between noon and 2pm. Do the math. That's 21 times an hour, once every 2 minutes.... Most of the time I was hung up on or I got pushed to a voice recording, that's if I bothered picking up. Any how, last week I invested in the voice recorder. When Mann Bracken called at 7:55am I immediately turned it on. Since, I'm in PA, I needed their permission to record. So, when someone actually answered, they gave me their mini-miranda and told me the call may be recorded. So, I informed them that I was also recording the call, that if they did NOT wish to be recorded, please hang up. That if they continued speaking I would consider that their consent to record. The lady told me "whatever" and kept talking. Bingo! She told me she has my private student loan in her office and that she was filing court documents. I asked if she was an attorney and she mumbled something, so I asked her to speak clearer. She then said no she wasn't. I asked if an attorney had even looked at my file. Once again, the answer was no. I told her that I'd like to make monthly payments. She laughed and told me to get real. But then said that they would take $10,000 down and $3,000 per month after that. I told her that was absolutely not affordable, that my husband doesn't even MAKE $3,000 a month and we have a baby on the way. I explained that I'm due in a month. Her response was (and this is a direct quote): "Well, now isn't that interesting. You can't afford your bills, but you can afford a baby? I'm making a notation in your file here. When we hang up I'm calling child services in your area. When I tell them you are too poor to pay your bills, they'll come and take your child." At this point I get upset because NO ONE threatens my unborn child. I tell her she's full of it, that if child services took every child from a home with too much debt, that no one in this country would have kids! Then she continues: "Oh, they will. They'll come and take the child. They'll snatch the kid out of your hands as soon as you give birth. You'll never see the kid again. So, is your kid worth $10,000?" At that point I was too upset to continue and I told her that I was ending the call. That the call had been recorded and I would be speaking to an attorney. Then she tried to back track and say she didn't give me permission to record. I repeated to her what I had said in the beginning. I've never been so glad to have something on tape in my life. I knew Mann Bracken were scum, but that was low. Threatening to have a child taken over debt. This is after they've threatened previously to take my dog because he's an asset they could sell to satisfy my debt. I wish I had THAT convo recorded. Regardless, I called a local attorney today and he put me in touch with an FDCPA attorney in my area. He thinks I have quite the strong case against Mann Bracken. Especially considering the fact you could hear me crying and obviously upset on the phone as she threatened to take my child. Obviously I know in my heart they can't do that. But I'm 8 months pregnant and I dare any mother to say she wouldn't be upset when someone is threatening to take your child, no matter how crazy it seems. Can't wait for my day in court. No one should have to be treated the way they treated me. |
Definitely sue them for everything you can. That woman went way over the line. And she was caught on tape. Doers PA allow phone recordings in court? You should record each and every call with them. I am sure you could get them on even more FDCPA violations.
Take the Dr. bill with you to court anyway. And, especially, any
Take the Dr. bill with you to court anyway. And, especially, anything that shows your elevated BP. They were nice enough to give you a lovely stick. It's only polite to beat the crap outta them with it. Gawd, but I love Mann Bracken.
Bring the hammer down. Good luck to you, I hope you get a big ch
Bring the hammer down.
Good luck to you, I hope you get a big chunk of change from the beloved Mann Bracken
I hope you DO go to court and WIN! I don't have children and eve
I hope you DO go to court and WIN! I don't have children and even I got mad when I read how they threatened your unborn baby. Big props to you for recording that call.