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What can I do if I am being sued by Palisades collection agency?

Submitted by airbirdone on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 12:22
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I stopped paying my chase credit card in 2003. I split up with my live in and got stuck with this debt. I moved and they (collection agency) found me and I am now being sued. Is there any advise anyone can give me before I go to court. I owe 24,000+ and still have no extra money to pay them. What will happen? I have no idea what to expect or what info to take with me to try and get out of paying this. I know I should pay, but unless they accept $100.00 per month, I will not be able to pay. If Chase has already charged this off, how do I know if the agency was actually hired by Chase.
P.S here is an address for the attorney for Palisades that is listed on my court order. 5215 North O'Connor blv, suite 1060 irving tx 75039. 1-877-682-5800, (972)910-9190, fax 972-910-9122 Firm name Wolpoff & Abramson,LLP attorny name, Anthony Waddell


Don't miss the court date. Because if you do, the judge will give them the judgment and they can then garnish your wages up to 25%! So go to court and take all relevant paperwork with you in regards to this debt. Also, take all information regarding how much you make and what kind of expenses you have. Tell the judge you can only afford $100 a month. You never know what he will decide. You should take a look at naca.net and find an attorney to represent you. Most will offer a free initial consultation. But an attorney may be able to get the amount reduced.
good luck and let us know how it goes.


Submitted by outlaw8117 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 12:47

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You said the last payment was done somewhere in 2003. Call the credit company and verify the last payment date. You may get this info in your credit report also. Check the SOL of your state and confirm if it's within the statutes. You cannot be sued if the debt is already past the statutes. The date will be calculated from the date you last paid on the account. The latest payment will renew the SOL clock and you will come back into legal troubles if the company takes you to the court. You will need to send a dispute letter to the collection agency mentioning the expiry of the SOL. Take a copy of the letter to the court and explain your point. The judge will rule the case in your favor if the statutes are past. You cannot be sent to jail for not paying the debts. No need to worry about that.


Submitted by orake on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 13:18

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No you can't go to jail for that. In court they will get all of your employment info. that's so they can garnish your wages if you don't pay. It's good that you want to pay the money you owe, but some collection agencies charge outrageous fees and that ain't right. I feel that as consumers we pay enough in high interest rates for our poor credit. Anyway, check out that website I mentioned. They have attorneys that even if you are low income and can't pay, they may be able to work with you. I'm afraid once it has gotten to court and there is a court date, not much you can do at this point other than show up.
One thing you could do though, call the court you are supposed to show up and just make sure there is a case against you. I've seen in this forum that collection agencies never really filed a case in court when they said that they have.
If the debt did make it to court, you will have to plead with the judge on a monthly amount. JUST DON'T MISS YOUR COURT DATE! That will just give Palisades the judgment and then garnishment. I don't know about you, but 25% of my paycheck is a lot especially when it's paycheck to paycheck living.


Submitted by outlaw8117 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 13:23

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Thanks alot all. I'm pretty sure the suit is valid since a sheriff hand delivered papers to my home. I will check the last payment date. SOL in Texas is 4 years. This is my fourth year but as far as what month, I will have to check. I went to the website suggested and I will contact some attorneys from it. I think since I purchased two more vehicles in my name and opened a second checking account for money that I received from selling furniture, that made then collector think they have a case. I wonder if me not receiving child support for my child will help my case? My ex is behind about $30,000.00 in chold support to me.


Submitted by airbirdone on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 14:12

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W&A usually will try to work out something with you. Really, all the courts will do is render a garnishment against you and garnish your wages until the debt is paid. Usually, you don't need legal services for such thing (although, if you choose to, you may want to consider contacting your local legal aid services for assistance).

I don't know why places such as these tell individuals that they will go to jail for not paying a debt. You cannot go to jail like in the days of old for not paying a debt.

When you do go to court (and please, do go to court), explain to the judge what you have paid and your true reasons why you have not kept up your payments and see if you can compromise for a settlement. If not, the most that they can do if garnish your wages. But they cannot send you to jail.

BTW, W&A are not really lawyers. They are collection agency under the gist of a law firm. Most of these wonderful law vultures are merely collecting agencies when they claim to be "law office".


Submitted by Alexandra on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 18:45

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Should I contact W&A and negotiate with them before court? I heard that they can continue to add finance charges. For what I can afford to pay it will take me 80 years to pay this off especially if they start adding finance charges.Plus court fees....geeze they sure don't make it easy for you to get this crap paid off...


Submitted by airbirdone on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 19:32

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I have and am still dealing with W&A. Texas is a nongarnishment state ,at least for unsecured cc.

As for the SOL as long as the case was filed (even if hearing is not scheduled until after sol period)before the sol ran out it would still be a valid case against you.

Mine was for alot less then yours but heres how mine went.Of course they tried to settle with me on the phone but on a 4700.00 debt they wanted 1500.00 down and 900.00 a month for 3 months.So hopefully in your case if you talk to them and try to settle or set something up they will negotaiate a little better with you.

Heres how my court hearing went. 1st court date: I showed they didnt apparently they asked for continuance and i wasnt notified until 2 days later. 2nd hearing:We both showed they talked to me alone before hand but they did not bring what I thought was enough validation that I had asked for with them ,so I simply said no thank you we'll talk to the judge.well they again asked for another continuance for 60 days to gather the info I asked for. 3rd: I showed they did not so judge dismissed it without prejudice.

If you talk to them and try to work something out before hand just be prepared for them to play hardball at first, they will ask if you have friends or relatives you can borrow from, if you can take a home equity loan,etc.

It never hurts to try to talk to them but do not let them push you into anything you cannot realitically afford. I am not trying to scare you just lettting you know my dealings with them. Hopefully you will have better luck then I did with them.Even though mine was dismissed It was dismissed without prejudice meaning that they have a year to bring the same claim against me again if they choose.


Submitted by taksmom476 on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 09:13

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Your Welcome.I should mention though there are other routes besides garnishment that they could go though.One being Writ of execution, meaning that they can seize and sell some of your personal belongings to satisfy the judgment if they get one.If that would happen you need to find out what is exempt in your state from seizure.They could also put a lien on your home if you own one, meaning that if you were to sell or refinance they would get the money from the proceeds.Also any bank accounts that you may have they could seize.
Let us know how everything works out for you.


Submitted by taksmom476 on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 18:25

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Whatever, you do, make sure you answer the complaint within the time listed on the summons. An answer must be written, and you must admit or deny the allegations in the complaint, and list all defenses you may have. Send a copy to W&A and the court. You will probably have to pay a filing fee, as well.

This is the sort of thing you should probably have an attorney help you with. Check naca.net to find a consumer attorney in your area.


Submitted by Sam Glover on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:26

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Ok, So I received a letter from W&A on behalf of Pallisades on 11/18/2006. I never received a final bill from AT&T so I understood that I did indeed owe money. The letter I received made reference to a website where I could go to setup monthly payments. I immediately went to the computer and set up a one time payment of $125.00 to be withdrawn on 1/22/2007 and monthly payments of $250.00 until paid in full. I awoke Saturday to find out that I was being served by Pallisades. They included a nice little note that I could call to make scheduled payments to avoid the law suit. I called them this afternoon and told them not only what day I set up online payments but the time. They replied that they had no notes of this. They also stated that W&A was no longer handling it... it was back in there control? Well I checked my account today and there it was... a web payment to W&A for $125.00. It seems to me that W&A would have known I set up a payment schedule using their website and would have reported it to Pallisades. Pallisades is now telling me that I have to have payment arrangements with them too??? It was also my understading that if the debt was listed by AT&T on your credit report, that CA's could not list it again. Also, Isn't it illegal for a CA to portray themselves as attorneys? Sorry so long winded but I'm not really sure what my rights are here.


Submitted by lauriewalker on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 15:55

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Did you set it up that all future payments are also withdrawn automatically?If you did I would definitley notify your bank to stop all future transactions until you get this straightenend out.

Next send out DV letters to both W&A, and Palasides to see if either actually has your account.

Did you actually get a summons or did they just state that they were going to sue you? You can check your local court clerks office to see if a suit was actually filed.

As for the credit report it can be listed twice as long as the original is listed closed/sold with a zero balance.

Also on the web where you paid W&A were you able to print anything out for your records, if so definitley keep them .

Hope this helps some!


Submitted by taksmom476 on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:21

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I did set up all future payments to be withdrawn automatically. I was served by the County S.O. early Saturday morning. Also the amount on the summons differs from the amount on the paperwork from W&A/Palisades by about $900.00. Palisades says the 900$ they had on the paperwork from the 18th of november includes court fees and back interest. But how could it include court fees if they hadn't filed ANYTHING with the court until AFTER 12-4-06 and the court papers are 900$ less? Forgive my ignorance, but what is DV?


Submitted by lauriewalker on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:07

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DV means debt validation.ITS a letter you send certified mail to the collector asking for complete details of the account. You can ask them for a complete breakdown of fees and things.You can go to the Do It Yourself section here and get sample letters.Or I'm sure someone will come along soon and post alink to one.I'M not real sure how to do the link things yet.

My summons actually went up by about 1600.00. It included attorney fees(W&A)
and the filing fee at the local magistrate.The only thing I could figure out why yours would be less is if the Palasides is doing it on their own now it is minus the fees for W&A.

Do you happen to know how old this account is?


Submitted by taksmom476 on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:27

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When is your hearing set for? Also as I said before send them out a dv letter as soon as possible. Send it out certified mail/return receipt as soon as possible that way you have proof that they signed for it and received it. They still have to prove their case if it gets to court. And from what your saying you were trying to resolve it.Keep everything you have,payments, etc as proof of your efforts if it gets to court.

Hopefully it all works out for you and hope some of what I said helped you.


Submitted by taksmom476 on Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:43

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Do anyone know the different companies that Palisades collect for. I understand Chase is one, Washington Mutual is another one, is there any others ones.


Submitted by on Thu, 03/08/2007 - 18:07

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Hello everyone,

I'm a NJ resident, went trow a very ugly divorce that ripped me off..

How long that is usually take for collectors to sue from the date of my last credit card payment?

I actually was trying to do this ("when I am ready financially, and that could take up to 2 years!") after some told me I can make a deal with them and come to an agreement, example: if my debt it's 80,000 it could be cut to 70 to 40%

Is filling bankrupt is a good idea?

Thank You For All The Help


Submitted by on Thu, 03/22/2007 - 00:40

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How long that is usually take for collectors to sue from the date of my last credit card payment?


It depends on how agressively they litigate. Some are naturally more willing to work with you than others. If you use the google search built into the website and search for your collectors, you might get an idea of how frequently they persue debts through lawsuits.

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Is filling bankrupt is a good idea?


It should be your last resort--it can be a difficult process, and will cause some damage to your credit report. I recommend you sign up with this site and give your phone number. A credit counselor will call you shortly afterward, and go over your financial picture. They'll help you explore your options, you might have a better idea of how to proceed. You don't have to use their services, and if you choose a company to help you get through your sitch, make sure you check them out thoroughly (BBB, this website, FTC, your state's AG, etc...).


Submitted by Morningstar on Thu, 03/22/2007 - 01:57

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I am also dealing with Palisades. I wrote them and asked them for verification and what they sent me back was not true verification. I will write to them again. What happens if your case makes it to court and you are unemployed, unable to work and on social security?


Submitted by on Wed, 02/03/2010 - 08:14

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Palisades sold my account to an attorney's office locally in San Diego, CA. It's worth $4,900. I was never actually served. Anyway, I worked out a payment plan with them but they refuse to remove the $70 summons fee despite me never having been served. How can they charge me for something like that? It's like charging me for the paper and ink toner they used to print out notes on my case.


Submitted by on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:22

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