Settle for Delete with a CA
Date: Sat, 06/21/2008 - 21:27
Thanks everyone
I would think that would be along the same lines. Try it. Othe
I would think that would be along the same lines. Try it. Other's will be along to advise you further.
Thanks guys..I just wasnt sure if it was even possible. I se
Thanks guys..I just wasnt sure if it was even possible.
I see the letters in the DIY section here, but whats the process? Lets say they offer me a settlement, do I then present the Settle for Delete letter/agreement?
Sorry, I know dumb questions but I want to make sure I dont screw this up. :oops:
If you are attempting to settle and not PIF and the CA agrees to
If you are attempting to settle and not PIF and the CA agrees to it in writing, stipulate that they not sell the remaining balance or you will find yourself in the same situation with another CA. Depending on the CA, I would doubt that they would delete for anything less than th efull amount. YMMV.
They might, they might not. It depends on the company. My ow
They might, they might not. It depends on the company.
My own company's policy is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. The only way we will agree to delete is if you're going to pay in full. If you want to settle, we can probably work out a number; but then we won't delete - we will report as settled for less than full balance.
What is a collection agencys motivation to leave it on the credi
What is a collection agencys motivation to leave it on the credit report??
The CRAs likely have contractually obligated the CAs to keep err
The CRAs likely have contractually obligated the CAs to keep errors and alterations to a minimum. Also, removing accurate information skews the purpose of the CR: risk management.
Quote:What is a collection agencys motivation to leave it on the
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What is a collection agencys motivation to leave it on the credit report?? |
It is a consequence of letting the account default. Essentially the threat of knowing it will be on your credit for 7 years is supposed to keep you from becoming delinquent in the first place.
To touch on what Morningstar has said - the bureaus actually frown on a creditor removing tradelines in a pay-for-delete situation. I have memos and policies from the bureaus that say a creditor should only remove a tradeline when it is a bona fide error.
Because it does defeat the whole purpose in having CRs -- which is to let the next guy know what they may be getting themselves into if you apply for credit. It is meant to gauge who can handle their obligations and those who can't/won't. If everyone can delete the bad items, and leave the good items on their credit report, then what's the point in even having them?
For my company's position, rarely do we delete (I have deleted maybe 2 accounts this year so far). But ultimately it is our goal to get an account to pay in full (not settle), and so if we can use the bureau as leverage to get that full payment, then we will agree to delete in lieu of settling.
A pay for delete can work in a few rare cases. 1. Settlement wi
A pay for delete can work in a few rare cases.
1. Settlement with them due to violation of law.
2. Agree to delete or not respond to a dispute.
The credit bureaus frown on this practice and the three I got were simply a promise not to respond to a dispute.If they don't respond you get your delete and everyone is happy. :lol:
You might also do some research into whether or not Rstrictive E
You might also do some research into whether or not Rstrictive Endorsements are binding in your state. Also, non-disclosure agreements, like the poster above said. If you pay, they promise to not verify a dispute. But, like a couple posters have stated, settled for less generally will not score you a delete.
But why in the world would anyone want to pay a jdb the full amo
But why in the world would anyone want to pay a jdb the full amount? They bought the loan from the oc for pennies on the dollars...the oc did get money from the jdb and the oc will write off the loss difference on their taxes. I had a financial hardship and explained that to the oc in an attempt to work something out but they sold my acct to a jdb anyway. I would be more than willing to work out arrangements to pay the full amt to the oc, but the jdb will have to take a settlement (which they cited me 3 different amts in less than 2 days). I'm waiting on the dv from them.
Is there any way to get a company to agree to remove a Paid In F
Is there any way to get a company to agree to remove a Paid In Full item AFTER the fact? I have disputed the same item several times and the same company ALWAYS responds that it is validated and it stays. All of my other 15 or so paid debts have been removed, but this one just sticks there ... any suggestions for me?
Is this company you paid a collector or a original creditor? If
Is this company you paid a collector or a original creditor? If a dispute after the fact of payment is not working,The only thing I see would be a goodwill letter.
Can you please give us any examples of a "Goodwill" letter?
Can you please give us any examples of a "Goodwill" letter?
I lifted this from another forum so I give credit where credit i
I lifted this from another forum so I give credit where credit is due but I did use it successfully:
Goodwill letter
Date
Company name
Address
Dear CEO name,
I am writing to you today regarding my ----------- account which I had while I was a medical student at ------------------------------------. The purpose of my correspondence is to see if you would be willing to make a "goodwill" adjustment on the reporting of this account to the three credit agencies.
During the time period this account was established I had was very happy with the service, I was however not the ideal customer and made mistakes with my handling of the account. I should have kept better records regarding the account and I take full responsibility. I became aware of the unpaid balance when I got a copy of my credit report in June of 2006.
I know that payment was my responsibility and I am not attempting to justify this breach of ------------ user agreement, I was however hoping you might review the circumstances under which this non-payment occurred and consider removing the negative trade line associated with this account from my three credit reports.
As soon as I became aware of the balance I contacted ----------------- and paid the balance in full. I provide this not to justify why the account was unpaid, but rather to show that the issue with ----------- is not a good indicator of my actual credit worthiness. I hope that ---------------- is willing to work with me on erasing this mark from my credit reports.
I would like to STRESS that the information currently being reported IS accurate, (I am not disputing anything with ---------------). I am simply asking -------------for a courtesy gesture of goodwill in having the credit bureaus remove this account from my report. I do recognize that this request is unique and that it may not be ------------- normal policy. Please consider that the Fair Credit Reporting Act does not demand that all accounts be reported, only that any account that is reported be reported accurately. Therefore, a company does have legal discretion and permission to remove any account it chooses from the credit report. I'm hoping that ------------- will do that in my case for this account.
Your kind consideration in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Best Regards
Name
Address
Also...here is another example of a "nutcase" goodwill letter. Not the OP's situation but fun to write:
This letter is a formal complaint that you are reporting information that is in violation of my rights under the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Fair Credit Billing ACT (FCBA).
I am distressed that you have included the below information in my credit profile and have failed to maintain reasonable procedures in your operations to assure maximum possible accuracy. Every step must be taken to assure the information reported is completely accurate, correct and in compliance with the FTC's Fair Credit Billing Act.
The following information therefore needs to be removed from my credit profile. In August 21 I contact XXXXXX regarding a balance on my account with the company. I was informed that the balance was for a cable modem that their records showed was not returned. I informed XXXXX that I did indeed return the cable modem. I was informed that they would do a search to locate the modem. XXXXX did not inform me neither in writing nor via the telephone that the modem was not found. Instead XXXXXX together with COLLECTON AGENCy chose to initiate collection activities during the time XXXXX was "trying to locate the modem." Each call I made to XXXXXXXX during the month of August I was told that they were still searching. I was unaware that XXXXXXX was not trying to locate the modem since they had initiated collection activities with COLLECTION AGENCY .
I immediately contacted the FTC regarding XXXXXX wanton disregard for my rights as a consumer and clear violation of the FCBA which states that:
"The creditor may not threaten your credit rating or report you as delinquent while your bill is in dispute. If the creditor's investigation determines the bill is correct, you must be told promptly and in writing how much you owe and why. The penalty also applies if a creditor threatens to report - or improperly reports - your failure to pay to anyone during the dispute period.
XXXXX Account # XXXXX
The listed item is completely in violation of my rights under the FCBA. I have contacted XXXXXX who have since informed me that COLLECTION AGENCY was the one to report the account to Equifax during this investigational/dispute period.
If you do not cease reporting this incorrect information, I will be forced to take further action. Please be advised that your blatant disregard and violations of the Fair Credit Reporting Act, Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, and my rights as a consumer have caused harm to me by seriously affecting credit rating, causing denial of credit, as well as causing me to be charged higher interest rates and unfavorable loan terms.
Note that the FTC has maintained that incorrect credit reporting is the legal equivalent of prohibited collection activity
As per the FCRA:
???? 616. Civil liability for willful noncompliance [15 U.S.C. ???? 1681n]
(a) In general. Any person who willfully fails to comply with any requirement imposed under this title with respect to any consumer is liable to that consumer in an amount equal to the sum of
(1) (A) any actual damages sustained by the consumer as a result of the failure or damages of not less than $100 and not more than $1,000
???? 617. Civil liability for negligent noncompliance [15 U.S.C. ???? 1681o]
(a) In general. Any person who is negligent in failing to comply with any requirement imposed under this title with respect to any consumer is liable to that consumer in an amount equal to the sum of
(1) any actual damages sustained by the consumer as a result of the failure;
(2) in the case of any successful action to enforce any liability under this section, the costs of the action together with reasonable attorney's fees as determined by the court.
As a brief summary I state the following:
You have been notified that your actions are detrimental to me and that your company has violated (including but not limited to) the Consumer Credit Protection Act, Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
Your company should know that this continued reporting of inaccurate information is damaging to me. You have communicated and are continuing to communicate incorrect and defamatory information to Equifax.
As a result of these blatantly reckless, wanton, and intentional acts, I have suffered and continue to suffer general and specific damages. I am also very upset at your company's intentional infliction of emotional distress, other diminishments of the quality of my life and refusal to follow the law.
Please understand that I am extremely concerned regarding the harmful resultant consequences of the actions your company has taken. Please be advised that, if this matter is not resolved expeditiously, I will take any and all necessary steps to protect my rights.
If you wish to resolve this matter, this will be your last opportunity to do so. The following item must be deleted from my credit files with Equifax within 5 days from the tracked and verifiable receipt of this letter. Forward a letter to me via regular U.S. mail stating it has been removed and will not reappear on my credit reports again. I will accept nothing less.
Please be aware if these accounts are not deleted within 5 days of receipt, I will file a formal complaint, that includes COLLECTION AGENCY , with the Federal Trade Commission, my state's Banking and Finance Bureau, and the Better Business Bureau. Also, note that section 1681s-2(b) of the Fair Credit Reporting Act creates a cause of action for a consumer against a furnisher of erroneous credit information (Nelson v. Chase Manhattan).
This Notice is an attempt to correct your records, and any information received from you will be collected as evidence should any further action be necessary. Also be advised that a copy of this letter has been sent Certified Mail return Receipt to both your office and the FTC.
Thank you and I look forward to your resolving this most expeditiously.
Sincerely,
NUTCASE
Name
ADDRESS