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If you are receiving calls from "unknown numbers" via caller id and..

Date: Wed, 02/18/2009 - 08:15

Submitted by anonymous
on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 08:15

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it is debt collector.....if you phone has the set up option, block all "anonymous" or "unknown number" calls.
That way they must disable it on their end in order to call you and if they hang up on you, you can google their phone number by what shows up on the caller id pretty simply.

If they want to find you that bad and they have your phone number, they must have your address. Let them put something in writing and send it to you via United States Postal Service. That way what you have is in writing and so is your response for proof of any debt.

No bottom feeding scum bags do anything in writing, they ALL do it behind "unknown number" caller id's and by breaking the boundaries for FDCPA, not that violating those "guidelines" mean anything either.......when you file complaint with FTC about violation, nothing happens and debt collectors continue harassment BUT DISABLING their ability to harass you by calling you and blocking THEIR number means you can then......in turn.....tie up their lines.....see how to "block" your number when calling them back.
Let them see how it feels to have your day interrupted repeatedly by hangup calls and being uable to get what they loosely call 'work' done.


Just an FYI - not all "unknown number" calls are debt collectors - many business places come up as unknown on caller i.d. - my own workplace is one of them, and we are not a debt collector - we are a manufacturer of large equipment.

You can block calls that are designated by the caller to be anonymous - but you cannot block ones that are simply coming up as unknown - some will still get through. Your "anonymous call block" feature will only work on those callers who INTENTIONALLY block their number from your caller i.d.


lrhall41

Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Wed, 02/18/2009 - 18:38

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We can only block numbers that are known to you and the only
way we can do that is threw our at&t smart limits for $4.99 a month.
With smart limits you can block up to 15 numbers.

Unfortunately, if the owner of the phone number that is calling you has
a private or blocked number, AT&T is not able to determine the number
calling your phone. Our system logs this call as an unknown number.

We have no means of blocking unknown numbers from calling your wireless
number. If it is necessary for this number to not contact you, we are
able to change your mobile number.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 00:04

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is this something new? Caller ID displays UNKNOWN NUMBER and it's blank where a phone number should be. It's really starting to Piss me off, been going on for a week now.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 16:30

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We get bombarded with unknown name, unknown number or not available... or private.... We are ready to get rid of the home phone, as that seems the only solution. Sorry. But Cox, QWEST, etc. etc. surely have a way of giving us a key stroke to put on our phones to do a call back (and that was before caller id).

That is the whole purpose of the caller id option and having ones phone number on the DO NOT CALL REGISTRY. You can't report them if you don't have their phone number. We need a law that every phone number except perhaps residential should be required to display their phone number.

Until we finally decide where to just cancel the home phone, which with cell phones (even my 89 year old Mother has one) who needs a home phone, as these annoyers never leave a message as to who they are- if no one answers they just hang up, I am now answering and put them on speaker phone and don't say a word. So all they hear is silence and they say hello, hello, hello. And they hang up. I am really annoying them by doing this. Now they don't just waste my time, they are wasting their time too. yeah!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 10/08/2010 - 08:56

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Then here's a new one for the group. My caller ID shows "unknown caller" on my home phone, not my cell. It happens several times a week - sometimes several times a day - and I am unable to trap or trace the number. Star 57 can not find the number, star 69 can not recall it and when in the past I have answered, there's nobody there. Just silence. My phone company says there is no way to block it or find out who it is and they have no way to find out from checking any call logs of incoming numbers to my phone. If nobody is calling me, am I just hearing the phone ring because I'm going nuts? The quick answer is no I'm not crazy, but I get the calls all the time and can't find out where they are coming from, why they would be calling when there is nobody there, and I don't owe anybody anything so it isn't debt collectors. What the hell is going on? Why would somebody call me, block their number and not want to say anything if I answer? And, no, my wife isn't getting calls from an anonymous lover who won't say anything when a man answers, so no comedians, please.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:49

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Originally Posted by OhioGal1
It's likely an auto dialer checking to see if the number is actually in use. They may sell the numbers to telemarketers or scam companies, etc.


Maybe...but twice a day and/or several times a week for months? By the way, since I posted that message I also tried star 77 which is supposed to block such calls. Doesn't work! They got through twice so far today.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:08

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I have Google Voice that *sends all calls* to voice mail until I white list them and allow them to go to my phone. No matter what trick is pulled, they will not get through yet those I want to get through right away, do.

I had a few calls go to voice mail that I would have accepted if I knew they were calling, but that was a quick fix. My unwanted calls are at 0%, my ooops I should add that to the accept list is like 2% if that.

Google Voice is free and has turned out to be the best weapon you can have with regards to CA/JDB's. It will even let you dial their number and make it look as if you are calling from your Google Voice number so you never have to worry about a CA/JDB getting your real number!


lrhall41

Submitted by jeepbaja on Wed, 11/03/2010 - 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepbaja
I have Google Voice that *sends all calls* to voice mail until I white list them and allow them to go to my phone. No matter what trick is pulled, they will not get through yet those I want to get through right away, do.

I had a few calls go to voice mail that I would have accepted if I knew they were calling, but that was a quick fix. My unwanted calls are at 0%, my ooops I should add that to the accept list is like 2% if that.

Google Voice is free and has turned out to be the best weapon you can have with regards to CA/JDB's. It will even let you dial their number and make it look as if you are calling from your Google Voice number so you never have to worry about a CA/JDB getting your real number!

How does this work?? How do I do it through google??:confused:


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 11/04/2010 - 15:03

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Some phones have a call block feature. My current phone can block 50 numbers plus it has a call block for anything that doesn't have a number.

For some time I've been getting "Private Caller" calls 2 or 3 times a day between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. (sound familiar) the system goes to my voice mail and they hang up. I know it is these slimy creeps Midland Funding and/or Kramer and Frank their equally slimy scum-sucking Hucksters-at-Law.

For a while I was unaware of the anonymous/private call block feature. My phone company said they could block them but turns out all that would happen is they'd go to my voice mail which is already that way and they would not know they were "blocked". I wanted them to know they aren't reaching me.

Ever since I got my phone set up that way "presto" no more Private Callers. The one time I answered when it first started it was an automated announcement saying "please hold, we have an important call for you" and that is a debt collector. I refuse to answer, if they want to talk to me they can do it without the disguise. I don't open my door to people with hoods/masks on and I'm not answering my phone to numbers with hoods/masks, its all the same.

It is offensive to get, on the phone that I PAY FOR these callers who don't have the courtesy to come undisguised so they can go take a hike imo.

And the legal definition of harrassing phone calls, including in that description are calls from people who refuse to say anything as well as unknown calls. It doesn't matter if they call and don't say anything, just the act of calling is harrassment. I figure if they really wanted to talk to me they would say something, but that isn't what they want, they want to hassle me. So they are getting nowhere which is what they deserve.

If their number showed up you could contact them and tell them not to call you but you can't so they think they got you over a barrel but it just ain't so.

That google call sounds cool too I'll have to look into that.

The one thing that bugs me about my phone block now is that sometimes people like a doctor will call with a private number and so I might miss a call like that. It's a damn shame that on a phone line paid for by the consumer they dont have much control over calls. My 50 number block was quickly eaten up because they have all kinds of numbers and they just keep dialing till they find a number that gets through. I didn't think I could despise a class of people as much as I do and that class is low-life scummy bill collectors. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't charge me with discriminating against collection agencies.

BTW, the phone I have is a Panasonic and if anyone is interested I will look up what model it is.:)


lrhall41

Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Thu, 11/04/2010 - 23:17

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This is from the FDCPA re: Phone calls / issues
Basically, unlike some people here would have you believe (especially ex-Debt Collectors, you don't owe these swine the time of day. 8)
It's YOUR PHONE, debt buyers are not paying for your phone, its yours to do with as you see fit.
Read On--


[FONT=Arial]Your Rights to Stop Harassment by the Debt Collectors [/FONT]

[LEFT] Insofar as collectors are concerned,you are not required:[/LEFT]

[LIST=1]
  • To discuss anything with a collector unless you want to;
  • To answer a phone for a collector (this works with called ID).
  • To speak with the collector if you do answer.
  • To answer any questions at all posed by the collector (collectors will often demand that you rearrange your finances, or cut back on other expenses to pay them; there is no requirement that you justify your lifestyle to a collector).
  • To say "good-bye" before you hang up.
  • To be truthful about your personal and financial affairs (you do not have to disclose private information about assets or income).
  • [FONT=Arial][COLOR=Magenta]Important: There is no reason you need to acknowledge that you owe the money! [/COLOR]This is very important if the debt is old. By acknowledging the debt, you may actually extend the time the creditor can sue on it. All states have statutes of limitations on debt collecting. Few states are more than six years. Many are less. You can unknowingly extend this limitation by acknowledging the debt or even by making a partial payment! :confused:
    [/FONT]

    In fact, you do not even need a lawyer to stop collectors from calling you (although one is recommended; a lawyer will be able to point out possible lawsuits that you might be able to bring). All you need to do is to mail the creditor or collector a "cease communication" letter (Adobe pdf format). This request can be made any time, but it must be made in writing (and this is important to preserve your rights to litigate later on). It is always preferable to send the request by certified mail and keep a copy. You can click here for postal rates for certified mail. This copy will be proof of your request should you need to sue the creditor. Once the creditor (in most states) or collector receives your letter, he or she can only contact you to inform you of any action he or she intends to take, or to tell you that he is terminating efforts to collect the debt. This letter is enough for you legally stop further contact, including phone calls and dunning letters. Your letter may state that you are refusing to pay for any reason you choose, or are disputing the debt, but is fine and probably even better to just request that the collector terminate contact, and leave it at that. Writing this letter will not protect you from a lawsuit though. Likewise, writing the letter does not excuse you from the debt. Many collectors are not attorneys and cannot sue you! This is the reason they harass you in the first place. We think it is analogous to some kind of bizarre sexual frustration (but perhaps you can take up the issue with Dr. Freud ...what? he what? When did that happen?...1938? How was I supposed to know? Why didn't you tell...oh forget it.)


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    Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Fri, 11/05/2010 - 23:47

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    I get 'Private' numbers, calling me, all day long!! I've answered a few of them. However...when I DO answer, whoever is on the other line, doesn't say anything. Very annoying. There is one, that I've answered, that asked for someone who doesn't live at my residence. As many times as I've told this person this (on the phone), they "insist" they have the correct number.


    lrhall41

    Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 01:05

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    Repeated phone calls from someone that insists the number he dialed belongs to someone else or any kind of ongoing nuisance calls are definitely annoying since our home is supposed to be the place we go to get away for all the stuff in the "real world".

    If you were getting calls from someone who could realistically be posing a threat to you or your family there is equipment that can be installed on your phone to trace such calls but it is not cheap and not done on a whim because it also involves the police department. Your other option would be to tell your phone provider you need a new number due to ongoing harassing or annoying phone calls they should give you a new number at no charge to you. If you call them and tell them you just want a new number because, for example, you've given your number out to too many old girlfriends and so you'd like a fresh start they would charge you no doubt.

    I worked for Southwestern Bell for many years and so I'm certain this information is correct.


    lrhall41

    Submitted by Gretchen VonDerhoff on Sat, 11/06/2010 - 10:38

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    I am thrilled to learn that I am only victim of this invasion of privacy.
    I got calls from 200,502,901,578 area codes, you name it , plus unknown, unavail........, Verizon can not block them b'cause they are international calls. and I don't want to change my number, WHY? next number will soon have the same fate . and why I have to alter my life and all my contact for these scumbags?. It became so annoying that they called repeatably at any time of the day from 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM, no limit , the time that I was not in the mood to answer.:mad:
    My solution is : I save them in my contact and SILENT THEM .:p
    I hope this help.


    lrhall41

    Submitted by on Fri, 07/15/2011 - 14:07

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    These trolls use a computer-dialer, or some other autodialer, to get someone to answer a "live number." Two choices:1) NEVER answer calls from unrecognized area codes/numbers; or, 2) Answer, and when you hear the silence (the time it takes for the dialer to transfer the call to a live body,) HANG UP. Let them deal with silence on the line.


    lrhall41

    Submitted by on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 02:24

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    My solution is simple and although it will not stop future calls it gives me peace of mind. The phone rings, I do not recognize the number or caller, I pick up and hang up immediately and go about my life.;)


    lrhall41

    Submitted by on Fri, 06/08/2012 - 15:39

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    If the reputable creditors would stop selling their accts to the scummy collection companies, then these companies would go out of business. It should be against the law to sell a debt to a 3rd party.


    lrhall41

    Submitted by on Wed, 10/24/2012 - 11:55

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