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AFNI Validation failure

Date: Thu, 07/12/2007 - 10:40

Submitted by Frogpatch
on Thu, 07/12/2007 - 10:40

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afni sent my wife a copy of a phone bill which was the final bill for the small business she ran before we moved. It was no more than a bill. They could have pulled it from the trash for that matter. I wrote a validation letter asking them to:
Prove they are authorized to collect it
Prove that the SOL had not run out on it
Show me the amount and date of the last payment that was made against it.
Prove that they are licensed by the Florida Division to collect here.
They replied by sending me a copy of the same bill with thier license info from some other state. What a bunch of idiots.
Today I sent them a failure to properly validate notice by certified mail telling them what they missed along with a higlighted copy of the original letter. I told them if they could not provide the require info I would consider the bill expired and uncollectable and any futher attempt would result in a complaint to the FTC, he AG where they are located and the FLDFS. Lets see what they do next. I read about htem and they pretty much operate by trying to collect expired phone bills.


My wife acted as a sole proprietor under her own name and the bill was made out to her under her own name. She had a silent partner who was not listed. She did not operate as LLC, S-CORP or or Corporation. Therefore the fdcpa should apply. It it didn't the CA would have said so wouldn't you think?


lrhall41

Submitted by Frogpatch on Thu, 07/12/2007 - 11:14

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A proper verification of the debt to afni should include:
The name of the original creditor to whom you owe the debt
The amount of the debt you owe
A copy of the agreement between the collection agency and the creditor that proves that they actually owe the debt
Proof that the Statute of Limitations has not expired on the account
Proof that the collection agency is licensed to collect in your state
The license numbers and Registered Agent
A statement that if you do not dispute the validity of the debt, or any portion of it, within thirty days after the notice of the debt, then the debt will be presumed to be valid by the debt collector.


lrhall41

Submitted by Good Nelly on Fri, 07/13/2007 - 05:06

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The SOL is 4 years in Florida. The statement is dated August 2004. I do not know when the last payment was made but from the size of the bill I would say March or April of 2004. That would make it expired. If I make an agreement or a payment that will restart the SOL from what I have been told. Another gray area is the bill is from NJ which has a different SOL. I think the laws of my current residency apply as this is where the collection attempt is being made. Any feelings on this?


lrhall41

Submitted by Frogpatch on Fri, 07/13/2007 - 05:09

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