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zenith acquisition corp says I owe them money.

Date: Fri, 05/30/2008 - 13:37

Submitted by bigdoc6753
on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 13:37

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I had a debt of something like 110 dollars about 2 years ago, it went into collections and I was contacted by a debt collector, they said I had to pay them the full amount, I explained to them that I did not have the money, they struck a deal with me that if i just paid the 55 dollars the check was for, my acount would be clear, so I did.

now a year and a half later I am getting calls from zenith acquisition corp saying I owe them 55 dollars I didnt pay on this acount, I can not find any of the info from a year and a half ago and have no proof that they said i was paid and full.

is this a scam? should I just pay them the money? I am not sure what to do or think, it seems kinda fishy but I am unsure, also I accidently sliped up and gave them my social security number which I know is a big no no but Im pretty sure they had it anyway ( at least I hope :cry: )

anyways, if anyone could help or give me some sugestions it would be most apreciated, agian it is zenith acquisition corp that keeps calling me telling me I owe them this money.


DON"T PAY THEM ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While I don't think it's a scam I will tell tou this company has a poor record with the BBB.

tell them to send you something in writing. If they tell you no, ask for their address and you can send them a DV Letter. If they fail to give you their address, you can sue them for up to $1,000 for fdcpa violations. If they put it on your credit report, it is $1,000 per violation.

What state do you live in?

have they ever sent anything in the mail to you?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 13:44

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I live in IL, they havent sent me anything yet, but I asked them to, it SHOULD be here in a day or 2, weather it actualy arives or not im not so sure about, so I should not pay them?

what about the fact I gave one of them my SSN while on the phone with them? I mean they are fairly reputable so they shouldnt do anything shady with that eh?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 15:05

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Yeah you should have never given your Social Security number. Reason is because if before they only had your name, address, telephone, the company they claim you owe, the amount and possibly an account number. If they never had your social, you just opened it up to them and they can add that on too so it looks more like it's yours.

As soon as they send something in the mail to you, you send them a debt validation letter which I will post. you fill this letter in with the information. DONOT!! sign it as they will be able to duplicate a signature also. you will send it certified mail return receipt requested and costs about $5.50 this way you know they got it.


You cannot be sent to jail, if they threaten you with jail that is a violation of the fdcpa.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 15:34

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This is the letter you send to them. fill in the information such as names and addresses as required, also date it and save a copy for yourself

Your Name
Your Address
CITY/Town, STATE ZIPCODE

Date: March 9, 2005



Collection Agency Name
Address
CITY/Town, STATE ZIPCODE

Re: Acct Ref. # XXXXX and XXXXX

To Whom It May Concern:

This letter is being sent to you in response to a alledged debt. Be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.

This is NOT a request for verification or proof of my mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION made pursuant to the above named Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you
.
What I need you to provide as the debt validation is as follows:
1. What the money you say I owe is for;
2. Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe;
3. Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe;
4. Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable;
5. Identify the original creditor;
6. Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account
7. Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
8. Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent
9. Proof that the collection company owns the debt/or has been assigned the debt. (You are legally entitled to collect this particular debt from me.) This is basic contract law.
10. Complete payment history, starting with the original creditor. (I need to have proof of my payment history with original Creditor, what the amount of the debt was when the creditor assigned the debt to your company, and what fees/interest has been tacked on to this debt and how you/they determined these fees.) This requirement was established by the case Fields v. Wilber Law Firm, Donald L. Wilber and Kenneth Wilber, USCA-02-C-0072, 7th Circuit Court, Sept 2004..
11. Copy of the original signed loan agreement or credit card application. (My contract with the original creditor establishing the debt between us.) This is also basic contract law.

At this time I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major Credit Bureau's (Equifax, Experian or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both Federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent

I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following:
1. Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act
2. Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
3. Defamation of Character

If your offices are able to provide the proper documentation as requested in the following declaration, I will require at least 30 days investigating this information and during such time all collection activity must cease and desist.

Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes any listing any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is.
If your offices fail to respond to this validation request within 30 days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from my credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to me immediately.

I would also like to request, in writing, that no telephone contact be made by your offices to my home or to my place of employment. If your offices attempt telephone communication with me, including but not limited to computer generated calls and calls or correspondence sent to or with any third parties, it will be considered harassment and I will have no choice but to file suit. All future communications with me MUST be done in writing and sent to the address noted in this letter by USPS.

It would be advisable that you assure that your records are in order before I am forced to take legal action.

Please read the enclosure for an opinion regarding matters such as these from the Federal Trade Commission

Best Regards,

Your Name Here.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 15:37

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APRIL 29,2009 ORIGINALLY, CAPITAL ONE. NOW WITH ZENITH AQUISITION. RE:ACCT. REF.# 1003245651.IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,523.00. CAPITAL ONE P.O. BOX 30285 SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH. 84130-0285 To Whom It May Concern:

This letter is being sent to you in response to a alledged debt. Be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.

This is NOT a request for verification or proof of my mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION made pursuant to the above named Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you
.
What I need you to provide as the debt validation is as follows:
1. What the money you say I owe is for;
2. Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe;
3. Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe;
4. Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable;
5. Identify the original creditor;
6. Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account
7. Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
8. Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent
9. Proof that the collection company owns the debt/or has been assigned the debt. (You are legally entitled to collect this particular debt from me.) This is basic contract law.
10. Complete payment history, starting with the original creditor. (I need to have proof of my payment history with original Creditor, what the amount of the debt was when the creditor assigned the debt to your company, and what fees/interest has been tacked on to this debt and how you/they determined these fees.) This requirement was established by the case Fields v. Wilber Law Firm, Donald L. Wilber and Kenneth Wilber, USCA-02-C-0072, 7th Circuit Court, Sept 2004..
11. Copy of the original signed loan agreement or credit card application. (My contract with the original creditor establishing the debt between us.) This is also basic contract law.

At this time I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major Credit Bureau's (Equifax, Experian or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both Federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent

I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following:
1. Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act
2. Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
3. Defamation of Character

If your offices are able to provide the proper documentation as requested in the following declaration, I will require at least 30 days investigating this information and during such time all collection activity must cease and desist.

Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes any listing any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is.
If your offices fail to respond to this validation request within 30 days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from my credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to me immediately.

I would also like to request, in writing, that no telephone contact be made by your offices to my home or to my place of employment. If your offices attempt telephone communication with me, including but not limited to computer generated calls and calls or correspondence sent to or with any third parties, it will be considered harassment and I will have no choice but to file suit. All future communications with me MUST be done in writing and sent to the address noted in this letter by USPS.

It would be advisable that you assure that your records are in order before I am forced to take legal action.

Please read the enclosure for an opinion regarding matters such as these from the Federal Trade Commission

Best Regards,
REVA BUNCH.
3114 CHEROKEE DR.
MORRISTOWN, TN.
37814


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 11:35

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