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Some of the moderators are deleting relevant forum posts

Date: Tue, 04/14/2009 - 06:14

Submitted by Jason
on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 06:14

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I am getting messages from our community members that their posts are getting deleted even when they’re following the forum guidelines. Even I noticed that someone has deleted my few posts too.

Please co-operate with us and help me out with your suggestions on how we can improve this system and protect our members’ valuable comments.

I have a request to all my moderator friends: please do not delete any post which is not against our forum guidelines. If it appears that someone is sharing the wrong information with us, then debate with him over there only.


I've never deleted any of your posts Jason, I do delete bot posts, etc. I will follow the guide lines set forth and abide by the wishes of the Admin & staff. I honestly feel it would be in your best interest to demote former member Mods who have not posted in this forum after a certain length of time. Perhaps it might be a good idea if you set forth a new rule regarding Mods. If they haven't had any activity in this forum within a certain length of time they lose their Mod status. I believe it would be in everyones best interest, just throwing out some ideas. :)


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Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 07:07

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in the meantime.how about making it so members can't go hidden.i just saw that today.i know,i'm a doof,but if someone can come on hidden.they can delete without anyone knowing who.just a thought.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 14:57

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Good idea Paul. Also, as I suggested before, ex- Mod members need to be demoted. I see no reason to keep people at Mod status if they aren't active anyway. JMO. Weird things are happening, I'm not understanding why there are so many people out to get the staff at DebtCC. All I know is I am just a person who wants to help others in distress about debts. It would be great if someone would explain why all this is happening.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 15:27

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Hello Moderator friends,

After reviewing your posts, I think that we should implement some rules and guidelines for our moderators. I have drafted a few rules and would appreciate your feedback on this issue.

1. First of all, I think that if a moderator has not made at least 50 posts each month for 2 consecutive months, he should not be considered an active member. So, he may lose his moderator status and remain only an ordinary member in our community.

2. If any moderator finds any member sharing wrong information but not violating forum guidelines, he is requested to debate with the member in that thread only. The moderator shouldn't delete the member posts. In this way, the moderator can also increase the number of posts and retain his status (as moderator) in the forums.

Thanks for your help and co-operation.


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Submitted by Jason on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 03:40

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I agree with revoking Mod status after a period of inactivity too... however, the 50 posts each month requirement should be looked at...There are mods like Bossy who have contributed for a long time...way before I ever got here...who do alot of cleaning up but sometimes do not have the time to post and clean and they choose to clean... I know I have not been around alot and at this stage in my life It is hard between work and school to get on here . One of the issues raised before was the quality of the posts... I can post 50 posts in one day and have them all be platitudes and provide no relevant content what so ever. I would rather see fewer posts with content than numbers. We had issues with that awhile back with certain members...posting stuff just to get their numbers up.

Me, things have changed so much on the boards and with laws, etc...I do not feel comfortable posting alot of information anymore. I continually worry about posting wrong information...however, I do log in, I do read and I do continue to help people through my private messages, I do post when I can and when I can, I clean up. My own opinion is I can continue to do this whether I MOD or not... but there are others who make similar contributions who should not be overlooked.


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 05:51

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I agree with the 50 posts being a little high. There are alot of times people may not see me post, but I am here. I spend a great deal of time reading all the posts, looking for spam, bots, someone making trouble, etc. With a mother that is very ill, and has recently been back in the hospital, there are times I have only the time to come in and clean up.

I,too, can post alot in one day, but it would just be to agree with someone. I feel that if a post has been answered and the info given, unless I have new info, there's not alot more to say insome of the post--just my thoughts..karem


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Submitted by Bossy4455 on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 08:21

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Karen makes another good point...sometimes on threads all the bases are covered and there really is nothing more to add. In addition, at times it is benefical to the forms and members if the MODs sit back and allow the newer members or other members to post information. It is a great way to get additional information and learn new things...only jumping in where it is needed...and I think the active MODs do a great job with this.... Posting is something ALL members can do. The editing, deleting, etc. are things only MODS can do. Is the actual posting to threads the only way Admin has to determine the "activity" of the individual MODs?


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 09:40

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I haven't been deleting post at all. I hang around some but I hate giving the same information that has already been repeated once or twice in the same thread so I don't post.

I don't know if it is something about this board but any other board I have been on Mods and Admins could see all members but members and guest could not see hidden mods or admins. Count who is on next time to see if you can see the hidden members or not. Sometimes there may be a # there but it doesn't mean you can't see them on the list.


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Submitted by FYI on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 10:33

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Is the actual posting to threads the only way Admin has to determine the "activity" of the individual MODs?


That's a great point Roxy! Just because we aren't posting doesn't mean we aren't participating! Monitoring posts for accuracy, deleting bots, etc., are other things we do that can take a great deal of time. Hopefully those activities will be taken into consideration too.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 18:46

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I also agree that the 50-post number is just too high. I feel that we could post just to be redundant and say "what she said", but if I read a thread and feel everything's been said, I feel it's better to stay back and let newer members post.
I have deleted posts that are clearly BOT posts, such as the ones that say great site and things like that, but if somebody is trying to make a serious constructive post, I leave it alone.


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Submitted by kscornell on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 19:21

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I agree that inactive mods should lose their mod status however people have different schedules at different times in their lives, like like Paul for example. When I was made a Mod I made it clear that I could not put in the time but Mike made me one anyway. I may not contribute too much but I am in the background watching more than you know. I just deleted two phony ads that slipped by everyone today. I am going back to search for more!


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Submitted by Frogpatch on Mon, 04/20/2009 - 11:32

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I generally agree with everyone else's sentiment.

1) Mods should not delete posts (other than bona fide spam). Rather, comment/debate if you feel the content is inaccurate.

2) 50 posts to maintain active status is a bit high. I generally come on and click the "posts since last visit" link, and I go through and look at posts I think might be interesting. If other members have already stated the same thing as I would, I don't reply just because my answer's already there. Other posts where I may have more insite/knowledge on a particular subject, I might spend an hour writing an in-depth response. Why choose quantity over quality?


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Submitted by DebtCruncher on Mon, 04/20/2009 - 16:06

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Hi moderator friends,

After going through all of your posts in this thread and checking out your opinions, I think that we should have the following guidelines for our moderators:

1. Our moderator friends should not delete any posts which conform to the forum rules and guidelines. If you find anybody is sharing any wrong information in the forum, you are requested to debate with him right there.

2. Secondly, keeping in view your suggestions, I think that our moderator friends should make at least 25 posts every month in order to retain his status (as moderator) in the forums. However, if an active moderator somehow fails to make 25 posts in one particular month, his case may be reconsidered.


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Submitted by Jason on Tue, 04/21/2009 - 03:37

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I am glad you would reconsider a mod if they fell below the required number of posts. As you know, I have a mother I take care of, with only 15% of her heat pumping factor, and a son who is disabled who lives with us. One time mom was in the hospital for 6 weeks, and I missed alot on the forums during this.

I am on here everyday,mostly. Some times I do spam, some times I check the posts for bots, then have to get off. But I will try to make a conscious effort to post more,if needed..karen


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Submitted by Bossy4455 on Tue, 04/21/2009 - 08:37

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I do hope there is consideration given to Sue, Karen and Frogpatch. These MODS have been around a long time and have helped many people....including me. I KNOW the issues do not lie with these MODS. My next question would be...is this effective immediately .

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Glad I saw this thread...please don't demote me! I've been very busy lately but am trying to make a comeback on this site as much as possible.


Is admin going to notify the Mods who are going to be considered "inactive" and let them decide whether they want to increase their participation or is it going to be left up to just happening across this thread?


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 04/22/2009 - 06:05

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i don't advocate demoting anyone,but the guideline is fair.i also think that by not allowing people to be hidden at least for the time being you would discourage the person deleting.never saw the point in that.i never came on hidden.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Wed, 04/22/2009 - 06:17

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I'll be honest, there will be several months where I won't make 25 post. I'm not complaining here, I'm just stating I simply don't want to restate information already posted and I don't have the time anymore. Not with school work and my family.
I am not in a disagreement with any of the guidelines. Just making a statement.


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Submitted by FYI on Wed, 04/22/2009 - 21:04

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I have not been around in a long time because of work and personal issues-however I appreciate my mod status and I feel like I worked hard for it. I do come on when I can and delete spam, see if there are any posts where I can help, etc. I don't answer many posts because they are all usually taken care of. I don't want to post something that's already been stated like FYI said-there is no point in posting just for the sake of posting..............


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Submitted by Sassnlucy on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 05:24

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what is going on?i saw it.there have been topics that are being altered as well.goldenbast's thread about the 1099-c was altered.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 06:44

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btw sass.no one has incurred more wrath than yours truly.so i think i have you beat there.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 06:45

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Frog, If I saw it I would have agreed and it is sad to think that all of this has come about becuase people are sabotaging threads and posts. And I agree those should be special cases! It is hard for me to think of them as not being mods because they and you helped me soooo much. And Sass, your moral support to all of us is just a valuable as any information that gets posted. You know you are one of the main people who has kept me going. :hug:


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 06:02

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Aw thanks Shazz :) that's sweet of you!
Frog, we are definitely FFL's. :) I have been hanging around too many teenagers lately, because I talk that way now too. Roxy is one of my BFF's too!! Love you girl!
I miss the way the forum used to be. We had a great group of mods and I have found some of my BFF's on this site. For some reason it just feels different now, but I'm sure that has something to do with me being away for over a year.
I miss FinsFan!!!!
Wow, I can't believe I have been a member for two years.


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Submitted by Sassnlucy on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 07:20

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i for one miss more than a few of you.things have changed a little.things are changing in people's lives.i understand this.so do alot of people.it's good when i see you and others post.also with the economy in the shape it's in the humanoids think they can run roughshod even more.i noticed alot of guest humanoids with the PAY YOUR BILLS line.this forum and everyone one of us is needed more than ever.i look forward to hearing from others down the road.in the meantime i pray they are doing good.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 07:39

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With ya there Sass. I miss how things used to be. I think though the difference for me is all of you guys (Frog, Sass, Bossy, Fins, Cannr, Puddle, Cajun, etc.) were there when I was going through everything...when it was all new and I was scared to death and stressed. Every one provided information and support and held my hand. And boy did I need it and that makes me feel "closer" to you guys. But I also know not all change is bad. There are some really great people on here now too and they do a lot of good. They do what the older members did for me when I needed it. And those members will someday be posting "it is har to believe it has been two years".

P.S. Love you too Sass!!


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 07:43

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being a 43 yr old with a 53 yr olds body i can relate as well.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 13:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason
Hi moderator friends,

After going through all of your posts in this thread and checking out your opinions, I think that we should have the following guidelines for our moderators:

1. Our moderator friends should not delete any posts which conform to the forum rules and guidelines. If you find anybody is sharing any wrong information in the forum, you are requested to debate with him right there.

2. Secondly, keeping in view your suggestions, I think that our moderator friends should make at least 25 posts every month in order to retain his status (as moderator) in the forums. However, if an active moderator somehow fails to make 25 posts in one particular month, his case may be reconsidered.



Jason & Fellow Mods,

Regarding item #2 above, the following mods have not logged into this site for at least 90 days or more:

User Name - Last Login

[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=59999"]cajunbulldog[/URL] - 04/09/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=78851"]cannr[/URL] - 01/17/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=30848"]erzeke1[/URL] - 11/22/2007
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=63799"]fedupinpa[/URL] - 11/14/2008
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=28229"]finsfan13[/URL] - 03/09/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=54242"]goudah2424[/URL] - 09/24/2008
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=88810"]JCEMT[/URL] - 04/11/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=23569"]Jedi Mistress Ari[/URL] - 02/11/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=23357"]Jessi[/URL] - 05/04/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=72308"]Law Student[/URL] - 04/06/2008
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=17336"]LCW[/URL] - 07/12/2008
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=65709"]Morningstar[/URL] - 06/07/2009
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=19150"]stanley[/URL] - 02/23/2008
[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=99251"]unclewulf[/URL] - 11/30/2008


I do not wish to devalue their role as important members of the community, for their contributions were significant while they were here, and their dedication and commitment will never be forgotten.

However the fact is that, as mods, they are no longer active in the day-to-day operations and maintenance of this site. With that in mind, I think that it is time to retire their mod status and replace them with candidates who are ready, willing and able to perform the duties at hand.


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Submitted by DebtCruncher on Sun, 09/13/2009 - 09:26

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