Just to let BEAUTY know I on your side.

God Bless you Gina and keep faith and hope alive

Thank you Ashely

Any time there is a venue which is available to the public at-will, there are going to be people who don't bear a respect for the venue's purpose.

Every person who can get on the internet can come to this site and post whatever they want. There are bound to be screwoffs out there that just want to have some fun at someone else's expense.

If we cower in a corner and let them walk all over us, then they win. When we give them resistance, then they go find some other web forum to harass.

My point is, every person on this forum has probably had poignant remarks made about them. We tend to take it with a grain of salt and go on to the next post. If we all got offended and stopped coming here, then there would be nobody here to give advice and "our streets" would be running rampant with hooligans.

I'm sorry that things escalated to the point they did; nobody's family should be a part of it. But I do think that Vikas and Mike and the moderators acted as fast as they could. In your eyes, 18 hours was too long; but there are other forums that don't edit the explicit content, and those comments could still be sitting there if this was one of those sites.

The moral of my story is "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."

You obviously id not understand my point. I was not hurt in anyway and tried to make that lear. I made that coment to try to help this site out. I am a stronger person than that.But no real mother would or could stand back and let someone tell them to stick a meth pipe in their daughter's 'V' and it not effect them. If so then I would question my own heart.Speeking of morals...how is it you can filter out some things that may be offencive to some people but others seem to miss the mark of out right hainess disgust such as sexuial acts to a child?

My understanding is that you did not care about the bashings until your daughter got involved.

I also understand that you do not believe it should have taken 18 hours to have the remarks removed.

For those two reasons, you will not be returning to this site and will not recommend this site.

Without trying to seem utterly uncaring: he did not use your daughters name, nobody knows who your daughter is, her identity is concealed; she really is not a part of this, except in your head. Our guest simply put the words "your daughter" and "vag**a" together in the same sentence in order to get to you. You let it get to you. Now we're all a bunch of perverts who advocate disgusting sexual acts against children. Sorry. If you can get so worked up over this, then you should turn on the parental controls against yourself and stick to sites like PBS.org. In fact, let's shut this site down for fear that someone might say the V word again in the future.

I do not have any authority to filter or edit the posts made here. If I did, I would have deleted them. Our moderators are not paid to be here, nor are they required to be here 24/7. The fact that it took 18 hours to get removed is modest, compared to the fact that on some sites it would never have been removed.

I completely understand your point Debtcruncher.

Forgot to add, I do not believe Beauty's story. That isn't to undermine this poster's story.

Also forgot to add, this is a public forum. And anytime we post personal information about ourselves we leave ourselves open to attacks. But that does not mean I condone what was posted in any way. It is just something to think about. There are people our there who have nothing better to do than to hurt others by disprespectful insults.

Amen Debtcruncher & Steelers...

This is so true :)

I'm sorry about the comment that was made about your daughter..That is truly disgusting. That forum is one that I moderate. Another mod pmd me to let me know there was some nasty stuff in that thread, and I got there right away. I'm sorry I wasn't there faster, I really am..But I work a full time job, have a husband and son, and have other hobbies as well. I'm on this board an awful lot, I just wasn't here then. I'm sorry.

Debtcruncher, you do have a point. I understand the comment made about your daughter, minkeye, was crude and completely assinine, but as debtcruncher said, if we all decided not to come back here, then we've given these creeps the upper hand and they can just run amuck with no one to stop them.

I for one appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into creating and making this site what it is - a place where people in debt who have nowhere else to turn can go to vent and even get advice on how to deal with their debts. Obviously, the people who take this site seriously are very compassionate people who are dedicated to helping others. Vikas created this site in good faith with the objective of helping others. He and others have put a lot of hard work into making it what it is and I for one appreciate the opportunity to come here to get and give help.

I for one DO believe Beauty's story, I know it to be the truth. Those of us with similar pasts understand how things work in the justice system. Boot camp does not necessarily mean military. You can be sentanced to Boot camp in most states. It is not military run.

I wish that some of the people on here would stop attacking other members. It's disgusting to see good members that have helped others attack newcomers.

Now another member that could possibly help someone in the future is leaving. Someone comes here for help and gets treated like crap.

This site is here to help. If you don't believe someone, just ignore them! Don't start a fight and bad mouth them all over the board. It's immature and childish. People come here for help and to help others.

Let the board serve it's purpose!

I do not believe or dis-believe anyone's stories. On the issue of Minkeye, yes, she came here for help. I also believe that she instigated and provoked the "guest" and drew herself into the attacks. Guest's attacks originally were not directed toward her, until she kept responding to his lewd comments. At that point, since nobody else was in that post for Guest to bash, he directed his insults toward Minkeye.

I agree she did not deserve that, but if she would have let it be and just left/ignored that particular post, she would not have become involved as much as she was.

Now, in this particular post, I found flaws in her logic. I attempted to address her issue with my own impartial reasoning.

She then became disgruntled with my response and alluded that I did not have morals. I again responded, the second time with a bias. I do not intend to treat a person like "crap," if that is how it comes off; I just intend to defend my postion.

Debtcruncher - I meant the guest was treating her crappy . . . . . I think the best solution in a perfect world would be for people to just ignore anyone making rude or unwanted comments. I know that won't happen, but it would stop all the threads with fighting going back and forth, as this isn't the only one. I think your posts were very appropriate.

My response wasn't directed just towards this thread, and I should've made that clear. I don't know if it's the stress of christmas or what, but a lot of people on this board seem very quick to jump at people lately (I am not refering to anyone specific, just the fact that there has been a lot of unnecessary fighting unrelated to helping people with debt).

I don't know where all the anger is coming from, but we all need to stop the fighting and get back to helping each other.

This is very productive, and this is how issues get resolved. Thanks you guys, for airing your opinions in a mature manner.

Goudah, I know what thread you are referring to, and I locked that particular thread because there was damage being done, and everyone was off topic.

My opinion is that this is a public board, and we can be whoever we want to be. There are some people on this board that are personal friends of mine, and they know me, but otherwise my personal life has nothing to do with the advice I give here.

You are absolutely right, the fighting must stop, and it will.

dear members of debt consolidation care some people are very jelous of all of you.
this forum of debt consolidation care is a miracle
and the miracle is every day and night in this forum .helping people with their problems of debit and looking inside of a problem to stoped the abuse against them is the priority of this forum.
Please dont be sad with false accusations or opinions and believe FIRST in yourself more than vain words.
you dont know why i call ALL of you always:-"guardian angels"and i know all the miracles that are possible because of all of you that give me your excellent advices and give me the opportunity always to participate IN this blessing forum.
some people go to try to break the harmony in this forum but think about the mission beautiful all of you are doing now and how many people lives are better now because this forum and the fabulous members of debt consolidation care.
i cannot be a member because i really need the help of all members of this forum.i think all of you are are really good and have a great future ahead.
thanks very much for this forum,Vikas.
I'm praying to GOD FOR ALL OF YOU and i think that all of you have to believe that each day and night
you have saved many people for been harassed and helping people to know they have rights.
SORRY ABOUT MY ENGLISH AND THANKS IS NOT ENOUGH to thanks all of you.
please all of you stop a minute to think the miracle
of your words in this forum.i'm sure GOD KNOWS ALL
OF YOU MORE THAN YOU THINK.

Tania, nothing sweeter than what you said now. It came straight from your heart and it's understood nicely.

Tania, you never have to apologize for your English, we always understand you. You are and always have been a huge support to us here, and I am so grateful to you for that. You contribute more to this forum than you realize.

Tania- thank-you so much for those kind words.! It makes it all worth while when you hear something positive, and that you have helped, rather than negative, name calling! Thanks again, and God Bless..KAren

Sorry Goudah, it did come off to me like you were saying this particular thread was treating her crappy. And since my posts made up the bulk of this whole thread, I thought your comments were directed at me. But I guess you couldn't post your thoughts in the original thread because it is locked.... please accept my apologies.

You're right, people are quick to jump on each other lately. From a psychological perspective, I think it has to do with the fact that our text cannot show ones emotion good enough ?? Or maybe it's just a full moon out.

Let's get back to the main issues and enjoy the holidays... Tania, your thoughts are very nice, thank you.

Tania, I think you are one of the sweetest people I have ever talked to. God Bless You and Your Family. KYSIDE38

The problem with the written word is that one cannot express proper emotion with it. You cannot be sarcastic or humorous or shrug your shoulders or sigh or roll your eyes in disgust or surprise with words. So the written word actually becomes more powerful because its all there is and that is when feelings get hurt, etc. because you are taking the words at face value.

"The pen is mightier than the sword"

So very true! I did my whole Master's degree online, so the written word became very, VERY meaningful. We had to be extremely diligent in saying exactly what we meant!

merry christmas of 2006 and a happy new year of 2007!
what i love about this forum is that all the members
are very intellectual and very inteligent people.
what i like about this forum is the simplicity of my guardian angels.
"to be or not to be."William shakespeare???
THANKS VERY MUCH for try understand my english and help me always.merry cristhmas for all of you!

i forget to tell that what is more important in this
forum is the big heart of all members of this forum!!!

Thank you so much, Tania..Your words are always appreciated, and you are an asset here. Merry christmas and happy new year to you and your family.

Yes, Tania, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family!

May you have a blessed Christmas and prosperous New year, Tonia!!..Karen