B.I.G./AKA Route 66/aka Global Financial Services

the only advice i have is to search in the bar for B.I.G that should have contact info.when they call your work file a police report for harrasment.if you can don't answer at home.if you paid even 1 cent over your loan you are done.they will call you endlessly,if they think they can get to you.i wish there was something more i could tell you,but they think because they are in the UK they can do whatever they want.so to summarize,file police reports at work and don't talk to them at home.

Goldhelmet - great topic!

I personally dealt with Rt. 66 Funding over 2 years ago. I took out the typical $200 loan, and then couldn't get them to answer the phone when I wanted to pay it off, and they wouldn't respond to e-mails. The only contact I got from them was the weekly "bot" e-mail that said "your payment is due, if you want to renew, do nothing, and we'll withdraw the renewal fee of $60 from your bank account. If you wish to pay off your loan call us at....". But the phone number went to an answering machine every time, and messages were never returned if I left them.

After paying them $180, I found this site, because by that time, I had a couple of other payday loans as well, and was sinking fast. I discovered that Rt. 66 was operating illegally regarding lending into my state, and went to battle with them over that fact. I closed my bank account, effectively stopping their debits and their access to my money. I told them according to my state, they were not licensed to do business here, and that I would pay them the $20 owed on the principal of the loan, plus the $15 interest - but nothing more. They demanded over $400 at that time. They said that I was responsible for THEIR fees related to my closed bank account and that I was a terrible person for not paying my debt. I stuck to my guns, and after a few nasty phone calls, they stopped completely.

Until 2 years later.

Rt. 66 called my workplace earlier this year, claiming that I never paid my loan off, and that I now owed them $4,000 - on a $200 loan. RIIIIIGHT.

Fortunately, I have a very supportive supervisor and human resources director - and they stood behind me. We went to the human resources director's office, and she personally placed a phone call to Rt. 66. They immediately asked if this was (my name) - meaning they were monitoring the phone numbers and knew it was me calling. My human resources director promptly ripped this guy a new one - she tore him up one side and down the other, verbally. He tried to outshout her, was very rude, demanded that SHE pay my "debt" to them, and that their legal team would be at our door. In the end, he called our switchboard multiple times that day - every 5 minutes for over 4 hours - until he finally gave up and moved on to the next poor sap who was unlucky enough to run across their company and borrow from them.

A success story? Maybe - they don't call anymore, so that's a success, I guess. But these people are scum sucking bottom feeders - and I wouldn't put it past them to show up after several years again.

Goldhelmet - a word of advice. Don't let this company worry you. They are operating illegally and they know it, regardless of what they say. They tried to tell me that because they are licensed in Nevada, they are licensed to lend into every state. That's bullcrap, pure and simple. They have to abide by the laws of the state they lend into. And I highly doubt that they actually are licensed anywhere - even Nevada.

No more "success" stories with these crooks than this? :shock: :cry: :shock:

goldhelmet -

I think the problem is that it's very difficult to call it a success story when the company never leaves you alone, and uses illegal collection tactics. Most people never get a "paid in full" from this company - they simply succeed in getting them to go away for a while.

What I meant was that getting them to go away would be considered a success. So these people follow you around indefinitely.. - even if you pay them?

I don't know that for certain, goldhelmet - I just know what I experienced with them, and what others here have experienced.

In a perfect world, they would vanish when you pay them off. The problem is that according to "THEM", you're never paid off, even if you pay the loan in full. They'll find some way to come back and say there was some missed payment or hidden charge you didn't pay, and demand more money.

I say this is a job for Chris Hansen at Dateline NBC. He's the guy who does those investigative reports and I've seen shows where they literally follow a scammer's trail all the way around the globe until they find the culprits - and then expose them on primetime national TV. I'm completely serious. I am going to write to them about this company and I would encourage others here to do so about their experiences. They really do read the complaints and this seems like this one has all the elements for a very interesting " international mystery" that could be unraveled with their resources on national television.

gold, these yahoos are just that - yahoos. However, as you and suebee have been discussing, they WILL call the hell out of you. After overpaying my loan, I closed my bank account and started the fight. I refused to speak to them except for one time. And that was a mistake. Talk about pissing me off! I'm not going to sit at work and argue with some illegal moron for 15 minutes. So, what worked for me was (and it may/may not be an option for you) to tell them when they called my place of employment - "They no longer work here." They called a couple more times (I guess checking???) and I told them the same damn thing "They no longer work here." So the phone calls to work stopped. Then my cell was hit hard every few minutes for days, so I changed my cell phone number. Done. No more calls from the yahoos anymore. That's what I had to do to get rid of the calls. I filed complaints with everyone under the sun and, of course, the pdl never responded to one complaint. Go figure. So.... at least it's on file though. But, one point to make here, be SURE to file with the FTC against these guys. That's an important one to file with regarding them.

I, for one, would love to see a major network news story on these illegal pdl companies. :twisted:

Anyone out there hear of GFS payday loans?

Beverly - I believe GFS is part of Rt. 66 Funding/B.I.G. - they go by many names.

Do you have questions about them?

I also think that Cash Today is related to them in some way. They all have maildrops on Terminal Way in Reno and I'm sure all have a Heathmill connection in Britain.

I wonder if anyone has attempted finding out who processes their transactions. I don't think it would hurt to try that route. The fact that this company has so many illegal tactics against them would be a good reason why a processing company would be encouraged to stop doing business with them. Someone has to process these transactions, and if it were me, I would most definitely try to obtain that information and contact the processor and inform them.

Your bank has access to that information. They may give it to you for the asking, or you might have to strong-arm it out of them. Talk to your branch manager.There are quite likely more than one company involved, as this would be an international transaction. Still, these can be traced back up the chain, just like an email.

You know it seems like a lot of people haven't heard anything from these people in years (myself included) and then have the past coupld of weeks...any idea why all of a sudden they'd start calling people?

Maybe they're after people's tax rebates?

Although they're threatening people with much larger dollar amounts than that. I don't know, who knows what makes people like that tick or how they look themsleves in the mirror.