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Dealing With Unlicensed Payday Lenders

Submitted by Shazzers on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 11:21
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Updated on July 14, 2010: At the bottom of this post is a newer version of a letter template which you may or may not want to use, make sure you use your own words, this is only a sample.

If everyone will just give a link to this thread to the new members who come here for guidance it may be more helpful and less work for the experienced members who are researching information. I wrote this awhile back and am most happy to share it. THANKS!

You are only obligated to pay back the principal amount you borrowed from an unlicensed/illegal Internet Payday Lender.

What should you do?

Close your account asap, if you are unable to close your account, go into your bank and ask to speak with the Branch Manager, tell him/her you need a hard debit block placed on your account immediately! Explain that you are revoking ACH authorizations from unlicensed/illegal companies, and have learned these companies are notorious for ignoring revocation, therefore it is important to BLOCK any withdrawal attempts on your account to protect your interest. This is your privilege, do not accept no for an answer. The following link will provide you important information regarding closing accounts. CLICK HERE
What next?
AFTER your account is secure send each pdl (the unlicensed and illegal) an email similar to THIS (please scroll down to locate letter template). Tailor this letter to your needs, and try to write it with the same basic concept in your own words. You will need to research and locate email addresses/physical addresses if you don't already have them, I suggest that you type the name of the pdl (example: "oneclickcash address") in the search box in the upper right hand corner of this forum. You may also search for addresses HERE at the Better Business Bureau.
File complaints: Most of the time, you can file a complaint online with the following, I encourage you to follow through with doing so, you will need to search the Internet for your state Attorney General's website, however, here are links to file complaints for the FTC, Online complaints: Federal Trade Commission., and the BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
Keep in mind that you may not receive a response for days, or even weeks, or, you may receive harassing and threatening phone calls. I have found the best way to deal with this is not to respond or reply, simply hang up.
Side note: If you have paid an illegal/unlicensed payday lender above and beyond the principal amount you borrowed, it might be a good idea to demand a refund and a paid in full letter/receipt. You may or may not get one or both. It still doesn't hurt to include that tidbit in your letter. :)
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Date:

Name Of PDL

Your Name
City, State
Account #

This letter is to inform you that I am aware of the FACT that the loan you issued to me, is NOT legal or binding in my state. For your convenience, I have included my state payday loan laws below.

(Insert Your State payday loan laws here)

(Insert either (a) OR (b) which ever statements below which applies to you)

(a) The state of (insert your state) prohibits payday loans, therefore, I am bound by the state laws where I reside. As I have no presence in your state or country (only insert one choice, state or country, depending on your situation.), therefore I have no legal obligation to the 'governing laws' you may have detailed.
OR
(b) The state of (insert your state) requires Internet payday lenders to be licensed in MY state. I have already researched this information, your company does NOT have a license to lend in the state of ___________, if I am mistaken I will need proof in the form of a license number so that I may verify it with my Attorney General. I am bound by the state laws where I reside. As I have no presence in your state or country (only insert one choice, state or country, depending on your situation.), therefore I have no legal obligation to the 'governing laws' you may have detailed.


Be advised that as of today (insert todays date) I am revoking ANY and ALL ACH authorizations with your company from debiting any AND all of my personal accounts, per Federal law, Regulation E Section 205.10 Preauthorized transfers. I also revoke ANY and ALL wage assignments I may have signed, by you, including but not limited to; any of your affiliates, dba's, and collection agencies assigned to this account. None of the above no longer have my permission to access my accounts or impose a wage assignment.


I will only communicate to resolve this matter via email. If you ignore this notice and attempt to contact me or any of my references via telephone, you will be ignored and any payments owed will be delayed. I am willing to pay the principle amount of the loan only, however, no address means NO payments, this is not negotiable.

If you do NOT reply to this notice within 48 hours I will be forced to file complaints with my Attorney General (insert name of your attorney general), the BBB and the Federal Trade Commission. If you reply to this notice with any misleading legal implications or menacing course of actions you are unable to follow through with, I will be forced to take actions against you which could cause you to lose your license in the state of (insert the state they are licensed in) < (only use this statement if the illegal lender is licensed to lend in a state other than yours) and cause damage to your reputation, which could potentially decrease your clientele!



Sincerely,

Your Name[/QUOTE]


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you find any information on this company and why was my post edited by you on yeserday at 2:20pm. Did I out to much information in my post or what did I do I was just asking a question to anyone on here if they knew the answer to my post.

I removed your email address, that's against the forum rules.


Submitted by Shazzers on Sat, 04/10/2010 - 18:02

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Originally Posted by Shazzers
I removed your email address, that's against the forum rules.

I am sorry I didn't not know that was wrong I was just trying to leave that information for you to respond to me


Submitted by on Sun, 04/11/2010 - 13:28

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Originally Posted by Shazzers
Did you read the first post in this thread, there's a link for a template in the thread. I am actually working on an undated template that I will be posting in my blog, not sure when I will have time but it will be soon.


Yes, I was able to read it and a great template! Since zip19.com is downright illegal. Am I still required to pay the amount due as it states in the template? Or should I wait to see what your newly designed template is going to say?


Submitted by on Mon, 04/12/2010 - 22:45

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[QUOTE=Shazzers;393470]If everyone will just give a link to this thread to the new members who come here for guidance it may be more helpful and less work for the experienced members who are researching information. I wrote this awhile back and am most happy to share it. THANKS!
You are only obligated to pay back the principal amount you borrowed from an unlicensed/illegal Internet Payday Lender.
What should you do?
Close your account asap, if you are unable to close your account, go into your bank and ask to speak with the Branch Manager, tell him/her you need a hard debit block placed on your account immediately! Explain that you are revoking ACH authorizations from unlicensed/illegal companies, and have learned these companies are notorious for ignoring revocation, therefore it is important to BLOCK any withdrawal attempts on your account to protect your interest. This is your privilege, do not accept no for an answer. The following link will provide you important information regarding closing accounts. CLICK HERE
What next?
AFTER your account is secure send each pdl (the unlicensed and illegal) an email similar to THIS (please scroll down to locate letter template). Tailor this letter to your needs, and try to write it with the same basic concept in your own words. You will need to research and locate email addresses/physical addresses if you don't already have them, I suggest that you type the name of the pdl (example: "oneclickcash address") in the search box in the upper right hand corner of this forum. You may also search for addresses HERE at the Better Business Bureau.
File complaints: Most of the time, you can file a complaint online with the following, I encourage you to follow through with doing so, you will need to search the Internet for your state Attorney General's website, however, here are links to file complaints for the FTC, Online complaints: Federal Trade Commission., and the BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
Keep in mind that you may not receive a response for days, or even weeks, or, you may receive harassing and threatening phone calls. I have found the best way to deal with this is not to respond or reply, simply hang up.
Side note: If you have paid an illegal/unlicensed payday lender above and beyond the principal amount you borrowed, it might be a good idea to demand a refund and a paid in full letter/receipt. You may or may not get one or both. It still doesn't hurt to include that tidbit in your letter. :)[/QUOTE]
I do not agree with this as I was once one of these people who took out a payday loan and I had to pay mine back through the courts so your information is totally false. You need to stop giving information that you do not know anything about. The Indian nation laws override because they have no laws....


Submitted by on Tue, 04/13/2010 - 08:29

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I do not agree with this as I was once one of these people who took out a payday loan and I had to pay mine back through the courts so your information is totally false. You need to stop giving information that you do not know anything about. The Indian nation laws override because they have no laws....


another shill who works for one of these disgraces.let me put it this way
a tribe can't reallly sue someone in white man's court without forfeiting their immunity.sorry never heard of anyone going to court over a sovreign nation loan,and this never happened.back to the phones shill.


Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 04/13/2010 - 09:25

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if anyone can help me...I am trying to locate the info for the payday loan laws for IA...I have done a google search but am turning up nothing...finally making some headway and trying to make sure I get this one done before I leave out for the day. If anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance!


Submitted by Tiffany Beard on Wed, 04/21/2010 - 08:51

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I have 7 loans out currently. 2 I see are licensed in my state of DE.

CashNetUSA $500 (agreed to 3 payments on an arrangement to split-worked with them for over a year on loans paid off with no issues)-Licensed.
CashAdvance Network $400 paid $120 already. Don't see as licensed in my state.
National-PayDayloan.com $300 paid $500 already. Not licensed.
Paradise Cash Advance $500 paid close to $1,000 if not more. Not licensed
Integrity Advance, LLC $500 paid $360 so far. Licensed.
Ameriloan $400 paid $120. Not licensed.
Manhattan Processing $200 first payment 5/13 of $60 due. Don't see license.

I have sent 4 of them a letter of revocation of ACH by fax and 2 out of the 4 of those of have been sent certified or registered mail as well with return receipt. The other 2 i have requested their legal address to send them ones as well. I also sent a letter to them establishing a payment arrangement to pay down the debt only if they provide me a physical address as I have since closed my bank account and opened a new one which they do not have and will not get. They will have to sue me. Please let me know if I am heading in the right direction as I am changing my ways for the better now to protect myself.


Submitted by on Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have 7 loans out currently. 2 I see are licensed in my state of DE.

CashNetUSA $500 (agreed to 3 payments on an arrangement to split-worked with them for over a year on loans paid off with no issues)-Licensed.
CashAdvance Network $400 paid $120 already. Don't see as licensed in my state.
National-PayDayloan.com $300 paid $500 already. Not licensed.
Paradise Cash Advance $500 paid close to $1,000 if not more. Not licensed
Integrity Advance, LLC $500 paid $360 so far. Licensed.
Ameriloan $400 paid $120. Not licensed.
Manhattan Processing $200 first payment 5/13 of $60 due. Don't see license.

I have sent 4 of them a letter of revocation of ACH by fax and 2 out of the 4 of those of have been sent certified or registered mail as well with return receipt. The other 2 i have requested their legal address to send them ones as well. I also sent a letter to them establishing a payment arrangement to pay down the debt only if they provide me a physical address as I have since closed my bank account and opened a new one which they do not have and will not get. They will have to sue me. Please let me know if I am heading in the right direction as I am changing my ways for the better now to protect myself.

What state are you in?


Submitted by Shazzers on Mon, 04/26/2010 - 05:04

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I too am in a rut. I have various online payday loans. Are they legal in AL. What can I do? I have paid them over three times in what I took the loan out for. What are my rights in AL. I get an call from an Officer Ploom occasionally from one company but he cant give me the name of the loan company. Help


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I too am in a rut. I have various online payday loans. Are they legal in AL. What can I do? I have paid them over three times in what I took the loan out for. What are my rights in AL. I get an call from an Officer Ploom occasionally from one company but he cant give me the name of the loan company. Help

An officer of the law wouldn't be calling you in regrds to a debt, that's a civil matter not a criminal one. Start a new thread and provide the following information, it will help us to help you:
-Names of each pdl company.
-Whether they are store front or Internet.
-How much you borrowed.
-How much you paid so far.
-The state in which you reside.


Submitted by Shazzers on Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:08

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Anyone dealt with East Side Lenders? Had a $500 loan in Dec. '09 that I've paid over $1350 on so far. SEnt them the letter revoking ACH privilidges, cease, etc. and demanded a refund. Also reported them to BBB and AG in PA. They sent me an email saying they are in DE and abide by DE law and that I still owe the $500+$150 in fees but they will make payment arrangements if I need them too otherwise they will take me to court. Should I worry or are they blowing smoke? Not sure what DE law is for pdls. I know they've already gotten me for about $700 more than they lent. Any advise? Would greatly appreciate it!


Submitted by Nancy Brezina on Tue, 04/27/2010 - 12:26

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Anyone dealt with East Side Lenders? Had a $500 loan in Dec. '09 that I've paid over $1350 on so far. SEnt them the letter revoking ACH privilidges, cease, etc. and demanded a refund. Also reported them to BBB and AG in PA. They sent me an email saying they are in DE and abide by DE law and that I still owe the $500+$150 in fees but they will make payment arrangements if I need them too otherwise they will take me to court. Should I worry or are they blowing smoke? Not sure what DE law is for pdls. I know they've already gotten me for about $700 more than they lent. Any advise? Would greatly appreciate it!



They're blowing smoke. Your state laws prevail in this case. It doesn't matter what the DE laws are, as you are in PA.


Submitted by msmotr on Tue, 04/27/2010 - 15:07

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National gave me 7 days to respond to close as paid in full which i did and have yet to hear.
Cashadvancenetwork payment arrnagement pending as i have contacted to confirm receipt of letters and wrote emails to express my arrangements-pending their arrangement agreement.
Paradise told them they are illegal and not paying any more
Integrity pending arragement after calling they are going to work with me but have not finalized anything yet.
Ameriloan called and sent me to their compliance department. They are going attempt a POS charge to my account for the full amount as a check. Already went to the bank and contacted fraud department to make sure they don't open my closed account for any reason. Will deal with their collections department when the time comes.


Submitted by on Tue, 04/27/2010 - 16:48

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update I got part of my money back the bank is still working to get the rest of my money back but now the co has made it so I never had an acct or at least I can't get to it. Doesn't matter all that I need I have sent to the bank and their merchant regarding the statements that they do not have to abide by American Laws and can keep hitting my account whenever they want...they have it so I should get the rest by next week will keep you posted. Though I never posted before I actually did any of the work...if you follow these rules as posted you can accomplish your complete release from these co


Submitted by Tiffany Beard on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 06:22

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Hi, I would like to inform you that most of the online payday loan companies, are not legal and they do not have the license to do the business in the state of borrower. What I would suggest is to avoid taking payday loans, as they charge you high finance charges which actually makes your job more difficult to go ahead and pay them off there principal amount you have borrowed.


Submitted by Van Cliburn on Thu, 04/29/2010 - 09:29

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I took out about 8 payday loans via the internet in 2008 and got over my head ($2500). I closed my bank account about August 2008. I received several emails from some of the companies, sent them letters stating I would report them to my AG and BBB. I live in Nebraska. When I researched the companies, I could not find any that were licensed within my state. As well, at the time, all payday loans were required to be paid within 30 days according to NE law. All was quiet until this week, yes, almost two weeks later. I had one very rude guy call named Paul. He has called twice in two weeks stating I committed fraud threatening that he was filing court actions within my county. He stated he was from some law firm in California, but the caller ID showed Maryland. The second was from a number in Nebraska for Money and More. She was very nice. I told her I was disputing the loan and she said she would send me paperwork to dispute next week. I have not had to pay back any of these loans and they have not tried to take me to court or garnish wages. Anyone have this same scenario lately? Has anyone been summoned to court two years after the fact? :mad:


Submitted by on Thu, 04/29/2010 - 14:16

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Hi, it is always necessary to go online and check with which company are they dealing with, because once when you take the cash and agree to pay the finance charges and later on when you find that you have trap, then you have no where to go. Apart from paying money to these pdl companies. So it is good be aware about each and everything before you take any harsh decision.


Submitted by on Fri, 04/30/2010 - 17:51

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well brb what you need to do is is just wait and for them to come up with something if they havent yet responded then you can send them a debt validation letter asking them to validate the debt if they can do that you need to pay them and if they cant you dont need to pay them since they do not have valid proof that those are your debts keep everything in writing and make sure all the post sent to them is through registered mail (from now on please do everything in writing with regards to your debts or any thing else in life ).


Submitted by Adam. Augustine on Mon, 05/03/2010 - 16:22

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi, I just had a loan with VIP loan shop for 400.00. This is my first time I tried the payday loan. I was planning to close my account after the loan was paid and the fee. Im willing to pay the fees. does anyone know how much fees i will be expecting and do they give you an email or something to let us know the current balance once you start paying it off. like A receipt through email or anything?


Vip will send an email stating that you must contact them 3 days ahead of your due date telling them you intend to have the 400 plus 120 in your account for them to debit. if you fail to contact them within the 3 days prior, they will renew your loan charging you an additional fee.


Submitted by on Mon, 05/03/2010 - 20:29

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Loanshoponline took me for over $6,000 in fees off of two PDLs - one for $400 and one for $100. They are not licensed in CA, plus no online lender in CA can continuously rollover a loan, loan more than $300, charge more than %15 in fees (they charged %30), loan more than one loan at a time (loaned me two). In November 2009 they received a Cease and Refrain Notice from the California Dept of Corporations to stop doing business in CA, in Feb 2010 my withdrawals from them mysteriously stopped but then I started receiving notices via email and mail and phone calls telling me I'ma great customer and to come back and reloan. I spoke with a lawyer yesterday and he said I definitely had a case against them to collect the illegal fees but that I had to send a demand letter before I can take them to small claims court. I'm a bot nervous to do this because I don't want them to start debiting my account again in retaliation. The good new though is the lawyer said the odds of someone showing when I file the claim are nill and I will most likely get a default judgement. Wish me luck on the letter and thank god my husband did not freak when I told him the amount they took from us. Anyone who has a similar issue with the company please contact me at


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I have 4 outstanding payday loans. I am in Texas and can not find out if they are licensed in my state or not. I have contacted PDL assistance and they want me to pay $200 to start up and then $131 every two weeks. I am considering doing this myself now though. So....what happens if I don't pay PDL assistance th $200 even after I singed a contract with them? And, can you tell me if the following are licencsed in Texas or not?

Integrity Advance - Loan amt $500 and I have paid $150
Ameriloan - loan amount $300 and I have paid $180
Loan Point USA - Loan amount $300 and I have paid $256.50
Cash Net USA - loan amount $700 and I have paid $714.40

Thanks


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have 4 outstanding payday loans. I am in Texas and can not find out if they are licensed in my state or not. I have contacted PDL assistance and they want me to pay $200 to start up and then $131 every two weeks. I am considering doing this myself now though. So....what happens if I don't pay PDL assistance th $200 even after I singed a contract with them? And, can you tell me if the following are licencsed in Texas or not?

Integrity Advance - Loan amt $500 and I have paid $150
Ameriloan - loan amount $300 and I have paid $180
Loan Point USA - Loan amount $300 and I have paid $256.50
Cash Net USA - loan amount $700 and I have paid $714.40

Thanks

Your only legal lender is CashNetUSA, they are registered as a CSO, basically, a CSO or Credit Services Organization is defined by the Texas Credit Services Organization Act (Section 393 of the Texas Finance Code) as an entity or person that provides one of the following services:
*Improving a consumer's credit history or rating
*Obtaining an extension of consumer credit for the consumer
*Providing advice or assistance to a consumer regarding the previous two services
Please bear in mind the CSO or Credit Services Organization model (unfortunately) IS NO LICENSING required by the state! CSO's are required to "Register" with the Secretary of State, they are NOT licensed, and their fees ARE NOT REGULATED.
If you CLICK HERE you can search the Credit Services Organization data base, but keep in mind that some lenders use dba names.

As far as the rest of the lenders, CLICK HERE to find out how to deal with unlicensed lenders.


Submitted by Shazzers on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 12:23

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I have a loan withCashjar. I found out through this site that they are not legal here in Utah and are out of Belize. They just took 1000 from my account and they were supposed to take 150.00. They wont give it back and said they would press charges if I stop payment. I told them they were illegal and I had already paid the principle. They now have received over 2000 for a 1000 loan. Plus, they say they can continue to collect. If anyone is thinking of using this company, but dont! Run for your lives. I am now unable to pay my house payment.


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a loan withCashjar. I found out through this site that they are not legal here in Utah and are out of Belize. They just took 1000 from my account and they were supposed to take 150.00. They wont give it back and said they would press charges if I stop payment. I told them they were illegal and I had already paid the principle. They now have received over 2000 for a 1000 loan. Plus, they say they can continue to collect. If anyone is thinking of using this company, but dont! Run for your lives. I am now unable to pay my house payment.


why haven't you disputed this with your bank?you really believe these idiots are going to press charges from belize?either close your account or dispute the debit with your bank.then have them open a new account not linked to the old one.you have paid this illegal lender back.don't let them ruin you.


Submitted by paulmergel on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 12:01

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a loan withCashjar. I found out through this site that they are not legal here in Utah and are out of Belize. They just took 1000 from my account and they were supposed to take 150.00. They wont give it back and said they would press charges if I stop payment. I told them they were illegal and I had already paid the principle. They now have received over 2000 for a 1000 loan. Plus, they say they can continue to collect. If anyone is thinking of using this company, but dont! Run for your lives. I am now unable to pay my house payment.

Fill out a formal dispute at your bank and have the charges reversed, then CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT!


Submitted by Shazzers on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 12:01

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Originally Posted by paulmergel
why haven't you disputed this with your bank?you really believe these idiots are going to press charges from belize?either close your account or dispute the debit with your bank.then have them open a new account not linked to the old one.you have paid this illegal lender back.don't let them ruin you.


She said they would garnish my pay, and I would be liable for attorney fees etc. That scares me to death! The bank said they would return it but that if I had a signed contract, the company really could follow through on their threats.


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
She said they would garnish my pay, and I would be liable for attorney fees etc. That scares me to death! The bank said they would return it but that if I had a signed contract, the company really could follow through on their threats.


they can't garnish without a court order.for that they would have to take you to court where you live,and win.i guarantee that's not going to happen.give your HR or payroll person a WAGE ASSIGNMENT REVOCATION letter.then take care of your bank.again an illegal bottomfeeding piece of garbage that you overpaid and can't do a thing once you revoke any wage assignments.whoever at the bank told you that is stupid.have them return it.give the letter to your employer.then ignore their sorry a$$.


Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 05/07/2010 - 06:30

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I had 7 payday loans at one time open. I have since paid off 4 of them. I am in a payment arrangements wieh cashadvancenetwork where i have one more payment of $222 to close account. CashnetUsa i have one more payment of $195.83 to close out that account. If your going to use these then I suggest using CashNetUsa as they have worked with me for over a year and i have had no issues. I am concerned with Paradisecashadvance those. I sent them a ach revokation note, closed my account they had access to and have no heard from them. My balance was $200 but have paid them well over that and told them to go screw. Once i get these done I am free and clear after sending all the ones i had open to their internal collections. Anyone needs help with ones that I had give me shout and I would love to help. Companies - Ameriloan, National PaydayLoan, and Integrity Advance. I am here to help as I am not taking their BS.


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National Payday -will give you a place in Colorado Springs called CSU to send payment. They accepted just the principal balnce which i sent by cashiers check. Received notice that account is closed.

Ameriloan - Will send you to their compliance department only allowing you to fax or email anything to them. I threatened to report them to the FTC and they have since been paid.

Integrity - Paid them off by paying principal balance plus one fee.


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Let me get the straight. All of these posts are about which payday lenders are "legal" so I can pick and choose who I want to pay back? Huh. Isn't it YOU who took out all of these loans and are obligated morally to pay these back? Why is it the lenders fault whether they are legal or not? YOUR the one who chose to enter your information online and press submit.

I always pay my loans back and do not take out more then I cannot afford. Stop complaining about the fees. You agreed to them and they are displayed on the websites. Your not the victim the lender is. Grab ahold of your big boy underwear and grow up and take some responsibility for yourself.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/18/2010 - 18:12

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it matters that the lenders are illegal because they are not allowed by law to lend. period. it is their fault they illegally lend money.
when the loans are illegal, the lender fully knows they are not legal and they are no victim.
Never once have we advocated not paying back what was borrowed on a loan. Never, so stop complaining about the companies that break the laws.


Submitted by bea2ls on Thu, 05/20/2010 - 13:11

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me get the straight. All of these posts are about which payday lenders are "legal" so I can pick and choose who I want to pay back? Huh. Isn't it YOU who took out all of these loans and are obligated morally to pay these back? Why is it the lenders fault whether they are legal or not? YOUR the one who chose to enter your information online and press submit.

I always pay my loans back and do not take out more then I cannot afford. Stop complaining about the fees. You agreed to them and they are displayed on the websites. Your not the victim the lender is. Grab ahold of your big boy underwear and grow up and take some responsibility for yourself.


why don't you save your rhetoric for the phones humanoid.nobody here cares what you think.


Submitted by paulmergel on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:02

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