increasing the pressure
Date: Sun, 10/12/2008 - 06:05
Submitted by jessiejamesprovost
on
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 06:05
Total Replies: 11
James
Quote:
Mr. Gee,I am writing in complaint of the company Ambassador Financial dba Nationwidecash.com ( NM license # 01413). On or before the date of 06/30/2008 (I am unsure of when we applied for the loan) my wife (*******) applied for and received a loan from www.nationwidecash.com. We had been making payments of $74.00 twice a month to nationwidecash.com until 09/10/2008 when we discovered that it is illegal to make payday loans to residents of VT or to receive payday loans in VT. According to Federal Case law, I will quote here: "Dot Com repeatedly and consciously chose to process Pennsylvania residents' applications and to assign them passwords. Dot Com knew that the result of these contracts would be the transmission of electronic messages into Pennsylvania. The transmission of these files was entirely within its control. Dot Com cannot maintain that these contracts are "fortuitous" or "coincidental" within the meaning of World-Wide Volkswagen. When a defendant makes a conscious choice to conduct business with the residents of a forum state, "it has clear notice that it is subject to suit there." World-Wide Volkswagen, 444 U.S. at 297, 100 S.Ct. at 567. Dot Com was under no obligation to sell its services to Pennsylvania residents. It freely chose to do so, presumably in order to profit from those transactions. If a corporation determines that the risk of being subject to personal jurisdiction in a particular forum is too great, it can choose to sever its connection to the state. Id. If Dot Com had not wanted to be amenable to jurisdiction in Pennsylvania, the solution would have been simple--it could have chosen not to sell its services to Pennsylvania residents.? (W.D.Pa. 1997) " Per this Federal Case Law Nationwidecash.com dba ambassador financial is obligated to follow VT state Law which I will now quote here: "8 V.S.A. Chapter 73 §2201 prohibits any person to engage in the business of lending without first obtaining a license from the commissioner. 8 V.S.A. §2233 Effect: (a) No person who is required to be licensed under this chapter, shall directly or indirectly charge, contract for, or receive any interest, discount, consideration or charge greater than is authorized by section 41a or 46 of Title 9. No such loan for which a greater rate of interest, finance charge, consideration or charges than is authorized by section 41a or 46 of Title 9 has been charged, contracted for, or received shall be enforced in this state, and every person in any way participating therein in this state shall be subject to the provisions of this chapter. However, any loan legally made in any state which then had in effect a regulatory loan law similar in principle to this chapter may be enforced in this state only to the extent of collecting the principal amount owed and interest thereon at a rate not greater than that authorized by section 41a or 46 of Title 9. (b) A loan solicited and made by mail, telephone or electronic means to a Vermont resident shall be subject to the provisions of this chapter notwithstanding where the loan was legally made. No person shall engage in the business of soliciting and making loans by mail, telephone or electronic means to residents of this state unless duly licensed. Such licensee shall be subject to the applicable provisions of this title and chapters 4, 59 and 61 of Title 9, but shall not be required to have or maintain a place of business in the state. (c) No person other than a bank, savings and loan association, credit union, pawnbroker, insurance company, or seller of merchandise or services shall engage in specialized financing, including but not limited to tuition plans or other such financing, but not including insurance premium financing, for residents of this state unless duly licensed. Such licensee shall be subject to the applicable provisions of this title and chapters 4, 59 and 61 of Title 9, but shall not be required to maintain a place of business in this state. Such financing may include more than one loan per borrower. A license granted to such lenders shall be explicit in its authority with respect to the types of business permitted. (Amended 1969, No. 243 (Adj. Sess.), § 7; 1975, No. 76; 1979, No. 173 (Adj. Sess.), § 10, eff. April 30, 1980; 1983, No. 77, § 2; 1995, No. 162 (Adj. Sess.), § 33, eff. Jan. 1, 1997.) 8 V.S.A. §2519 (a) (13) No licensee shall agree to hold a payment instrument for later deposit. No licensee shall cash or advance any money on a postdated payment instrument. 9 V.S.A. §41a(b)(1), (5) The rate of interest or the sum allowed: (1) For single payment loans by lenders regulated by Title 8 and federal savings and loan associations, the finance charge shall not exceed 18 percent per annum. 5) For an installment loan not otherwise limited by the preceding subdivisions of this subsection, the interest rate shall not exceed 24 percent per annum on the first $1000.00 of the aggregate balance outstanding; and shall not exceed 12 percent per annum of the aggregate balance outstanding in excess of $1000.00; or 18 percent annual percentage rate on the aggregate balance outstanding whichever is higher." According to Jimmie Blake (who is the conformance dept. manager at nationwidecash) the company isn't obligated to follow VT state law and they are only obligated to follow NM law regarding payday loans. Irregardless of the fact that he is incorrect regarding the following of VT state law, Nationwidecash.com is also breaking the lending laws of New Mexico regarding Payday lending. I will quote this from New Mexico's Financial Institutions Divisions Web Page "New Mexico Law Now Protects You In 2007, Gov. Bill Richardson, Lt. Gov. Diane Denish and the Legislature amended state law to help prevent payday loans from becoming big financial problems for consumers. The term (length) of your payday loan can be no shorter than 14 days and no more than 35 days, unless you ask for a shorter period in writing. You cannot renew, refinance or “roll over†your payday loan. You cannot borrow more than 25% of your total gross monthly income. The lender can charge you no more than $15.50 for each $100 you borrow, plus another 50 cents “verification fee.†If the lender deposits your check on the agreed date and there is not enough money in your account, you can be charged an additional $15 for the returned check. (Your bank or credit union may also charge a steep fee for the insufficient funds check). If you cannot repay your loan, you are entitled to enter into a no-cost payment plan of at least 130 days. Once you are in a payment plan, and for a minimum of 10 days after you complete that plan, you cannot take out another payday loan." Nationwidecash.com has broken NM law by rolling over the loan twice a month. Nationwidecash.com also broke NM law by having this loan out for over 35 days, which is a clear violation of the rules and laws. Nationwidecash.com is also breaking NM laws by charging fees over $15.50 per $100.00. My wife was paying $74.00 twice a month in just fees on what I believe was a $200.00 loan. That is more than twice the allowable fees. I suspect that if you look further into this matter you will see that they are doing this for all of their customers. I would recommend you audit their records for any further inconsistencies. Furthermore since nationwidecash.com is supposed to be following VT state lending laws in the first place they are breaking laws here as well as in New Mexico. I don't think your state should be issuing payday lending licenses to companies who are so obviously preying upon people in times of need. I am hoping that you can assist me in obtaining a letter stating that my account has been paid in full and a refund of all illegaly charged interest and fees.Thank you very much for your time. Sincerely,James K Provost |
Sounds GREAT to me, I hope they follow through, it's about time
Sounds GREAT to me, I hope they follow through, it's about time Nationwide got what was coming to them for screwing people out of their hard earned money. Those people have a licensed to steal, there isn't ANYthing right about that!
I really hope that this brings about some form of resolution wit
I really hope that this brings about some form of resolution with this company. If they were legally lending money in VT I would not have a problem with them at all, but since they're illegally lending here I'm going on a one man crusade to shut them down.
Well, I am glad you're taking the bull by the horns, if more peo
Well, I am glad you're taking the bull by the horns, if more people would complain and follow through, maybe, just MAYBE there would be less licensed AND unlicensed thieves out there in the payday loan industry!
The sad part was, I almost felt sorry about reporting them, and
The sad part was, I almost felt sorry about reporting them, and then I said, screw that! These people have taken so much damn money from me that they need to be reported to the proper agencies.
Well, that speaks volumes for your character, but I wouldn't los
Well, that speaks volumes for your character, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over reporting them, they dug their own hole!
believe me, no sleep is being lost here. As a matter of fact, I
believe me, no sleep is being lost here. As a matter of fact, I don't think I've slept better than this in the last 6 months. Getting rid of this IPDL debt is great!
So here is a couple of questions for you shazzers. 1) Is 3B pay
So here is a couple of questions for you shazzers.
1) Is 3B payday licensed anywhere?
2) If so should I report them too?
So I finally got a reply back from NM state department of financ
So I finally got a reply back from NM state department of financial institutions. I'm not sure what to think of it other than the fact that this kind of proves that they have to follow VT state law.
Your email was forwarded to me from Mr. David Gee.
RE: COMPLAINT ???????? Nationwidecash.com dba Ambassador Financial Services, Inc.
The New Mexico Small Loan Act 58-15-2 sub section A states ???????consumer??????? means a person who enters into a loan agreement and receives the proceeds in New Mexico ???????..
After having an opportunity to review your complaint sent via email, please be advised that the Regulations & Licensing Department / Financial Institutions Division (FID) regulate ???????licensed??????? Small Loan, Payday and Title Loan Companies within the State of New Mexico for residents of the State of New Mexico .
We do not have regulatory authority to mitigate complaints from non residents.
Should you wish to pursue this matter further, I would suggest that you contact the regulatory authorities in your home state to see if the subject company is complying with Vermont State law.
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me at the telephone number listed below.
Quote:We do not have regulatory authority to mitigate complaints
Quote:
We do not have regulatory authority to mitigate complaints from non residents. |
Yeah, I received one of those responses. Basically, I forwarded that email to my DFI, to be honest, my DFI said basically the same thing with different words. They claimed they didn't regulate lenders licensed in another state. lol I had better luck with the FTC and Attorney General's office.
yeah, I have complained to the FTC allready and my AG's office s
yeah, I have complained to the FTC allready and my AG's office said that they won't take any action at this time.