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Western Union prepaid Visa

Date: Wed, 10/31/2007 - 20:33

Submitted by anonymous
on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 20:33

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I mentioned this in another thred, but i didn't want to hijack that persons thread any further. My question is. You can have your paycheck deposited on this prepaid mastercard. Do you think this would be safe from the pdl sharks? I'm afraid to open a new bank account right now because i keep hearing about pdl sharks tracking down new account numbers and debiting them. Wonder if they could do the same thing with the Mastercard?


LOL! I was just looking it up-



Western Union???? Prepaid MasterCard????

Easy to Get, Easy to Use

The power of cash. The convenience of plastic. Efficiently manage your money and pay bills because you control how much you put on the Card.

Experience the benefits

Carry your money safely and conveniently.

Shop online anywhere MasterCard debit cards are accepted.

Check your Card balance anytime online or over the phone.

Reload your Card at any participating Western Union Agent location in the United States.

Direct Deposit your pay check onto your Card and pay NO Monthly Account Maintenance Fee. That's a savings of $4.95 per month.


lrhall41

Submitted by volleyballmom on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 20:35

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So, when paying bills with a Western Union Mastercard, they can't do squat with the information. Correct? Or can someone get ahold of your card number and take advantage of it? Or is that not possible because it has that three digit security number on the back? Do I make any sense here? It's late and my brain is getting fried. And you can have your paycheck direct deposited on that card? Huh. Volley, what do you think? You're a "bank" person. Do you hate it when I always ask you the "bank" questions? :lol:


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 21:15

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As far as I know, it works exactly like a regular Mastercard. And yes, it did have that 3 digit number on the back. And yes, you can have you paycheck direct deposited on the card. It did have a $2,500.00 max limit on it however. But, in my case, not a problem. I can't even remember the last time I had over 2 grand in the bank. thats about all I know, maybe Volley can check into it some more.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 22:15

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Hey guys....went to bed a bit early last night. The beauty with credit cards is that added layer of security, the ccv code on the back and yes, they would absolutely need your whole card number and the ccv code to get into your $$.

Yep, you can have your paycheck direct deposited right onto the card and then pay your bills!!


lrhall41

Submitted by volleyballmom on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 04:57

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My boyfriend has one of these cards too, I think it's called greendot or something. He gets his paycheck deposited on it, and he likes it enough. The only problem being that there are limits to how much you can withdraw per day (and it's pretty low, something like $300), and so they get you with the fees as well. But it's better than nothing. He can't have a bank account right now, so this is his best bet.


lrhall41

Submitted by JEN5276 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 08:18

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I second that motion! Prepaid is the way to go. PDL companies can not dig in to it. If it is stolen there's (0)Zero liability. FCK the banks charging NSF fees, and overdrafts. I got a prepaid card that let you know when you may cause an overdraft, I will get a text message, or info at the ATM. Now tell me how many banks do that?? I'll tell you,,,.... NONE!
I also got fee bill pay on-line with this PP debit card, hah!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 15:46

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One thought. If paychecks can be direct deposited onto a credit card, don't they need a routing number or something to do this? Do you think PDL lenders can somehow dig up this info and charge our cards just like a bank account? Also, do you think pre-paid cards have the same "zero liability" protection that "regular" cards have?


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:23

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One more thought. If we decide to do this everyone needs to be very careful which pre-paid card you choose. I've used several over the years and some, if not most are not reliable. They often get declined by merchants for no reason whatsoever. And some have tons of "hidden fees" that jump up and get ya when you least expect it. And I had one that took like 7 buisness days to credit your card after you reloan it.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:31

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Hmmm....this sounds good. I have to laught at FormulaTA's post about it having a $2500 max allowed on it! :lol: If I had $2500, I wouldn't know how to act! I'm thinking (in response to cturners post) that your paycheck being deposited on it wouldn't be an issue as far as pdls. I mean, we have a third party who does our paychecks direct deposit. Just don't see that third party giving out any bank account information to anyone, personally. But, now here's my question, I do understand that you can use it at stores, to pay bills, etc. And I do understand that you can use it at the ATM machines. Now, I guess I just need to know where to "read up" on this because I'm wondering if there is a fee to withdraw from the ATM machines. Volley, where did you find this information so that I can read up on it?


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:32

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Cannr, just do a google search for Western Union Prepaid Mastercard and you'll find thier web page. And I do believe there was a small fee for w/d money out of an ATM. Plus you still have to pay the ATM machines fee also. But, it sure beats waking up one morning and finding my bank account drained!!


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:38

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Wait. It takes days to "post" to your card when you reload it? Would that be the same case if you had your paycheck direct deposited on it? Days? Lordy, I can't wait days! LOL! I have like $1.00 before payday!


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:42

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One more thought. I wonder if my work will actually do this? I'm looking at our direct deposit authorization form and it says "monies can/will be deposited into certified checking accounts or savings accounts, or a combination of both only". mmm, wonder if that leaves credit cards out?? I will ask HR.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:44

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Good question. I had already thought that I'm going to call our third party payroll that does our direct deposit and just see if they do that.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:46

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Cannr, sorry i should have been more clear. Western Union was not like that, money usualy posted within hours of a reload. I can't speak for direct deposits however, i never did that. I've used so many of these pre-paid cards I can't remember exactly which one's were bad and which one's were good. Western Union was a good one though. I liked Wired Plastic too. Not sure if they offer direct deposit or not.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 16:50

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Okay, maybe a problem with the Western Union card, not sure. I just called to ask about the direct deposit and got ahold of a foreign speaking cs rep and I could barly understand a word she said. BUT, she said (i think) that your 1st direct deposit would take 15 days before it would be available!!! I was like, are you sure? she said it was only the first time, after that it would be available after midnight on the day it was deposited. But, i could barly understand her, so maybe i misunderstood. Maybe it takes 15 days to set up direct deposit. if someone else wants to give it a try and call, the number is 1-800-325-6000.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 17:20

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Hey guys..I have a Greendot card. I don't use my citibank Visa to pay bills or buy online, because I am terrified of someone getting ahold of my cc info and robbing me blind. I can be paranoid. Anyway, we pay bills every other week, so every other week I go to Walgreens and load the amount for the bills on my greendot. It's a $4.95 fee. The funds are on my card within 60 minutes, and I can pay bills. Simple, safe, and convenient.


lrhall41

Submitted by finsfan13 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 17:52

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Oh my Lordy! 15 days? Hell, I'll be dead by then! LOL! Thanks for posting the phone number. I'll give it a call tomorrow and see if I can get more information!


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 18:03

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yea, i'm seeing some light here. I really was not looking forward paying all those check cashing fees for cashing my paycheck. And then having to get money orders to pay my bills. And then having to keep any extra cash in a coffee can at home. A safe direct deposit method would be so much better.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 18:28

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Hello all, I use western union pre-pay and I love it. I pay my bills with it too. I posted the fees below for Western Union & Green Dot. I do know that some of the prepaid have hidden fees - but western union and green dot seem to be pretty accurate with their fees. I have had no problems or issues with both of them. I really only use Western Union - but I do have green dot, which I will probably cancel since I don't use it.


lrhall41

Submitted by ginahill on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 04:50

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Unfortuanatly direct deposit on a debit card will not be an option for some of us. I just got to work this afternoon and asked HR about this option. They said direct deposit MUST go to either a Checking or savings account. Debit cards are not an option. And I work for a large company, so this may be the same answer many people get.


lrhall41

Submitted by cturner on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 12:29

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thats great gina! thanks for the valuable information. i am a western union member and never knew this card existed. I have a question for you. You stated that the Max Load per Day is $950. Does that apply to direct deposit too? Because sometimes my paycheck is more than $950 if I work overtime.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 14:14

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I have not used it for direct deposit yet. I just got the info for it, it came with the card. The account #, bank info and routing number. I am changing employers and start 11/26 (much more money!! yahoo). I will set up direct deposit when I go to the new job. I just load the card to pay bills, etc. I took the loading information from the website (SEE BELOW). If you you use direct deposit, it can be up to $2500. If you load the card with a western union agent, it can only be up to $950. I did call Western Union when I first got the card and I was told that after you sign up with your payroll department you will get 1 papercheck, and then the next check will be direct deposit and the funds are available by 9 am (sometimes earlier) the day the funds are transferred by your employer.


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Loading the Card
Funds can be loaded onto the Card by conducting a Western Union???? Prepaid Services transaction at any Western Union Agent location in the United States. There is a fee of $3.95 for each load conducted with a Western Union???? Prepaid Services transaction. Your Card must be presented by you to the Western Union Agent in order to load value to your Card in this manner. Western Union terms and conditions apply. To find a Western Union Agent location nearby, you may call 1-800-325-6000, press 2, then 1, or visit www.westernunion.com. There is a minimum funding amount of $30 and a maximum funding amount of $950 per transaction or $950 in the aggregate within a 24 hour period (inclusive of the load fee). You may perform up to 10 Western Union Prepaid Services transactions to load value onto the Card within a one month period. If you attempt to perform a Western Union Prepaid Services transaction that would exceed these limits, your transaction will be denied.

Funds can also be loaded onto the Card by direct deposit of payroll funds if your employer offers direct deposit as a pay option. You may only designate one employer to send direct deposit to the Card. Visit www.westernunionprepaidservices.com to obtain information on initiating direct deposit. The bank routing number and account number on the form cannot be used for any purpose other than initiating direct deposit to your Card. You are not authorized to provide the numbers to anyone other than your employer. If you attempt to use the bank routing number and account number to pre-authorize direct debits from the Card by merchants or any other party, the pre-authorized debits will be declined and your payment to the party will not be processed. Your employer controls the establishment of direct deposit to the Card and the timing of funds transfer to the Card.

The aggregate funds loaded on the Card at any time from any source may not exceed $2,500. The aggregate funds loaded on the Card within one calendar month from any source may not exceed $9,500. The maximum value of your Card is restricted to $2,500. If you exceed the load limits stated above, you are still subject to the maximum Card value stated above. We will deny any load transaction, including a direct deposit transaction from your employer, that would cause the Card balance to exceed these limits. If a direct deposit transaction is denied, you will need to obtain your pay from your employer in a manner other than direct deposit to the Card.
l set up direct deposit when I go to the new job. I just load the card to pay bills, etc.


lrhall41

Submitted by ginahill on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 15:55

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gina, thanks for getting all of this information for us! :wink:


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 07:08

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I loaded money on my western union prepaid mastercard and when I tried to withdraw money at an atm it did not give me the cash but still deducted the money and fees. Western union has been no help in me recovering my money. first they said it would be two days, then ten days, then 30 days now they say 45 to 60 days before I will be credited.

I have had this card for over one year and have had nothing but problems. Best thing to do would be stay away from western union pre paid services. I have been totally ripped offed and left completely frustrated.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:51

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I've had my Greendot Visa pre-paid card now for just about 1 year, and have my paycheck direct deposited right onto my card. I have had 2 lil snafus with their deposit system, where the money was there right at 6am every other Friday, but they were both resolved by noon EST. I also had 2 declined card charges, which again was a system issue (there wsa $700 on the card...so a $3.95 charge should have gone through). Otherwise, I have found it so useful. I use it to pay bills & make purchases (even through paypal for ebay). If you deposit $1,000/month you waive the Premier Card Member monthly fee (if you sign up for that). You do have to pay ATM fees (even if it's a fee free ATM machine), but being a Premier card member does decrease the ATM fees from th eprice noted below to $.99. Also, if you use certain ATM machines (which you can find on their site, greendotonline.com) you're ATM fees are also cheaper.

Here are their fees, as listed on their site:
SCHEDULE OF FEES AND CHARGES

Monthly Card Maintenance Fee -- $4.95 per month.

ATM Fee -- $2.50 per ATM transaction ($0.99 per ATM transaction for Student Cards). This fee may be reduced or waived altogether through rebates, promotions or special programs.

If you conduct a transaction at an ATM that is not operated by us, the operator of the ATM or any network utilized to effect the transaction may impose a fee.

International ATM Fee -- $3.00 per ATM transaction.

Cash Advance Fee -- $4.00 per cash advance obtained from a teller or other non-ATM cash system.

ATM Balance Inquiry / Declined Withdrawal Fee -- $0.50 per transaction/occurrence.

Balance Inquiry and Transaction History -- This information is free online at www.greendotonline.com. In addition, you may obtain balance information by calling our interactive voice response system. A charge of up to $1.00 will be assessed to the Card for each such call. If you wish to obtain balance information and/or transaction history from a live operator, there is a charge of up to $1.00 per call.

Lost or Stolen Card Replacement Fee -- $10.00

Card Research and Special Requests -- If you request that we perform research or handle special requests relating to the Card, there will be a charge of $25.00 per hour for each request. If your request involves a billing error or unauthorized transaction, this service is free.

Purchase and Reload -- The store where you purchase the Card will charge an initial activation fee and a reload fee. Check with your retailer for information on these fees before you purchase the Card.

Card Liquidation Fee -- $10 if liquidation is requested 30 days or more after activation. Should you request a liquidation of the card prior to activation or during the first 30 days after activating the card, you will not be charged a liquidation fee. If you have less than $10 on your card, we are unable to send you the check due to insufficient funds. Please spend the funds or request cash back at the point of sale from a merchant.



When you sign up for direct deposit, there is a form that you print out on their site that you submit to your HR department. it inclues a routing number and an account number, but that account number, from what I've been told does not mean you have a bank account. Now I have used the routing and account number to pay my student loan online (since they don't accept credit/debit cards), and the transactions have posted. But I don't get checks that I can use or anything like that.

Greendot's manner of posting and deducting money did get a lot quicker in the last few months, usually within 5 minutes of reloading the card is my money readily available. They also revamped their site for a more streamlined, user-friendly view of your account.

Overall, I'd give Greendot a 9.5 out of 10, only because of the few little issues I've incurred over the year. But I've found that it's been secure and safe from any agencies, PDLs or anything like that.


lrhall41

Submitted by rockinkiwi on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 07:17

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