Sanders Law Group
Date: Sun, 05/23/2010 - 15:28
You are most likely screwed. You signed notarized documents with
You are most likely screwed. You signed notarized documents without confirming anything about the debt.
I think if you stop payment now, you would be able to take legal steps against you for breaching contract. It may worth consulting a lawyer.
Anyway, hang tight and keep checking back. Our community experts might be able to suggest a better option for you.
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Yeah I probably am! Now the "document" I signed just says that I give permission to have the two payment deducted from my Visa Debit card and I provided the card information. And unfortunately I also state I would not dispute the charge. However, that was all done without them providing me anything in writing and threatening they would send an officer to my work, or would garnish my boyfriends wages who wasnt even on any payday loan I have EVER received. Do you think this might give me a little leverage? I don't mind paying a debt I owe but I simply can't afford $1200 like that and I don't even know for sure what payday loan they are representing.I just agreed so they wouldnt contact my work or harass my boyfriend. I hope someone has a good suggestion for me! Thanks so much!
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Originally Posted by SC You are most likely screwed. You signed notarized documents without confirming anything about the debt. I think if you stop payment now, you would be able to take legal steps against you for breaching contract. It may worth consulting a lawyer. Anyway, hang tight and keep checking back. Our community experts might be able to suggest a better option for you. |
I would repeat my previous suggestion. Deceitful collection age
I would repeat my previous suggestion.
Deceitful collection agencies often use the scare tactics, similar to that of sending officers to work place, get the debtor fired or garnishing his wage and such, to get the money out from the debtor.
Most likely the payday lender they are collecting for was unlicensed in your state and therefore was illegally operating.
Quote:Originally Posted by AnonymousI also received a threatenin
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Originally Posted by Anonymous I also received a threatening phone call from a "collection agency" a couple weeks ago. The woman I spoke to had a very thick accent and I had a difficult time understanding her. I had her repeat herself several times. She said I owed a payday loan from a years ago from I believe EZPayday or something like that. I had taken out alot of loans before and I thought I probably did owe this but she was unable to send me any documentation. But since I thought I owed it, I went ahead and setup payment arrangements that I really can't afford. I don't know if I owe this or not and I don't have any documentation regarding the payday loan she is talking about. They already deducted $300 from my account and I have 2 more payments about $600 each to come out on Friday and next Friday. I signed a notarized statement that said I would not dispute the payment but after reading all of these posts I am having second thoughts. I think I have been scammed or at least they are not being up front by providing my with documentation. Can I stop payment on these two deductions or am I screwed?! :( |
the person had a thick accent?they are in INDIA,and can do nothing.speak to the bank manager and explain the situation.they should be abl to set up a new account not linked to the old one.scams like this use a score of different names.truth be told they can do nothing they threatened.see the manager,set up a new account,and then hang up on these losers when they call again.the old fax an affidavit is an old and toothless threat.one they can't enforce.stop their access to the account asap.know that nothing will happen to you if you do.just don't do a stop payment as now that the criminals have the info.they can take whatever they want now,and most likely will.
I saw an ad with Montel williams for aloan. I signed up and tha
I saw an ad with Montel williams for aloan. I signed up and that's when all the trouble begun. apparently these guys get all your information and start the money exortion claiing you owe them and threatening criminal action or else.
SANDERS LEGAL GROUP is the name that they charge you under. My loan was with LoanPoint USA. I got a call indicating that they were calling from the state fo CA, from the courthouse stating I owe them 300 that was deposited into my acct. He had a thick indian accent, barely speaking english and telling me im going to be brought up on fraud charges if I didn't give him my visa or mastercard credit card. That i now owed them $1200 for late fees and other fees. They demanded my credit card info, I was foolish enugh to give it to them because they threateded to hav esherrif at my place of employment the next day,and i wanted to avoaid any possible embarassement or getting fired due to such serious accusations.
They charged my account $400 as the first payment and asked me to notorize and fax my information to James Parker at (818-937-1916. On speaking to an attorney and researching online i realized that these are scam artists.
When I called and confronted them, they said they were going to refund my money back. they called from 530-452-6712. These are scammers please spread the word and beware. It can happen to the best of us, dont feel bad. I never thought it could happen to me.
You can get your money back. I went to my bank immediately.
I received a call from this so called law firm First State Svc L
I received a call from this so called law firm First State Svc Law firm this morning (friday) where a man with a heavy indian accent told me that he was giving me a call because i was being brought up on criminal charges for fraud- I asked him who are you and what are you talking about- he said he was representing a company name Instacash who I have never heard off and according to him this company deposited a cash advance into my account that I never paid back- I tried to tell him that this was not true and knew for a fact that no money had ever been deposited into my account by any cash advance place- he told me to be quiet and that I was lying- he continued to say that I was going to taken to court on Monday and that I would be picked up by police or investigators from my job and taken under arrest- that my job would be notified and I would loose my job- I kept trying to explain to this man that I did not receive any money but he said I was an untruthful person and he was done dealing with me- I told him that I could provide proof by getting my bank statements and he said it would not be accepted because it could be changed- he told me that I was going to arrested and would be in jail unless I had 8k to pay by monday- after going back and forth he said well i cant guarantee anything but let me see what I can do he transferred me to another man with a heavy accent and he transferred me to a women who had an extremely heavy accent that was called Marlene Gipson- I could barely understand her and when I asked questions about when was this money deposited she would say you already asked that -but would never tell me when I asked how much was deposited I was told I should know- I really couldnt get any straight answers from any of them they were rude aggressive and very disrespectful- she gave me an option of paying 994.36 in 30 min and I needed to fax her a letter with what she was giving me to write word for word and to provide my account information so that the money could be deducted instantly- I told her I would have to speak to my husband first- she again told me I had 30 min to fax the letter or I would turned over to the court- yes I was scared and not sure what to think and ready to set up the payment just to avoid these people taking me to jail even tho I knew I never received anything but I started to question myself- my husband told me to go to the court house and check if I was scheduled for any court date since I was being told that I was being taken to court on Monday- I left work and went to our court house where I spoke with a criminal clerk and she verified that NO I was not in the system- I explained to her what just happened and she referred me to the police station saying that this sounded like a scam- I went to police station and reported it and was told not to send them any money and it was a scam- when I got home I received a call from the same women who was upset because I had not faxed the letter within the 30 min I was given- my husband spoke to her and she became very aggressive saying that she didnt care if I went to jail and sat there until this was paid off- we got off the phone and I went back to the police station and reported this call to them- during this time these people called me about numerous times... I did not answer I spoke with a police officer who took me into a office and should be numerous blogs on these people First State Svc Law office telephone 818.584.7330 fax #818.937.1916 he again told me not to worry about them and not to take any of their calls he said this was a scam trying to scare people into giving them access to their accounts and taking money... I have been sick to my stomach worrying about these but I will leave it in the LORDS hands I know that I never received anything from the company they said they were calling for Instacash or anyone else. Please beware and dont be quick to give up your information to your account- I never received anything from anyone but yet they had all my information where they could have mailed me any notice- thank goodness I listen to my husband!
The letter I received from Sanders Legal Group P.A. had a return
The letter I received from Sanders Legal Group P.A. had a return address of 3665 East Bay Dr. Ste 204-117, Largo FL 33771. I called the number on the letter 800-717-3019 to dispute the charge and no one answered-just voice mail. The letter stated I did an online 30 day trial for Online Succeed Systems on 08/14/09 and since the trial was never cancelled I owed $99.95 for the service which is past due. They then said they tried to charge my American Express card and stated the last 4 digits. Problem#1, the card in mention was cancelled by me on 11-26-2007 so how did someone get that info? I tried to call the phone number 800-717-3019 and no one answers. I'm going to take the advise of the previous remarks and report these people to the FBI. Plus I'm going to file a complaint through Better Business Bureau.
Just wanted to share my story in case anyone experiences the same thing.
I had the SAME thing happen to me. right down to notarizing it.
I had the SAME thing happen to me. right down to notarizing it. but when i called Mark from Sanders and he brought that up i told him that it was signed under the assumption of a legal debt. and since i never got proof of that debt, my notarized signature should be void. It took some arguing and about 3 phone calls total but i was able to get back every penny that i paid EVEN under the notarization. After the 3rd call he stopped fighting it. If you research the "Fair Debt Collection Practices Act" passed by the FTC and have that handy with you when you call you will be prepared. Just stand your ground. another thing, some states allow you to record a phone call as long as ONE party knows about it. if you are in one of those states YOU are the party that knows so you should record EVERYTHING. Hope this helps!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous I also received a threatening phone call from a "collection agency" a couple weeks ago. The woman I spoke to had a very thick accent and I had a difficult time understanding her. I had her repeat herself several times. She said I owed a payday loan from a years ago from I believe EZPayday or something like that. I had taken out alot of loans before and I thought I probably did owe this but she was unable to send me any documentation. But since I thought I owed it, I went ahead and setup payment arrangements that I really can't afford. I don't know if I owe this or not and I don't have any documentation regarding the payday loan she is talking about. They already deducted $300 from my account and I have 2 more payments about $600 each to come out on Friday and next Friday. I signed a notarized statement that said I would not dispute the payment but after reading all of these posts I am having second thoughts. I think I have been scammed or at least they are not being up front by providing my with documentation. Can I stop payment on these two deductions or am I screwed?! :( |
Quote:Originally Posted by AnonymousThe letter I received from S
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Originally Posted by Anonymous The letter I received from Sanders Legal Group P.A. had a return address of 3665 East Bay Dr. Ste 204-117, Largo FL 33771. I called the number on the letter 800-717-3019 to dispute the charge and no one answered-just voice mail. The letter stated I did an online 30 day trial for Online Succeed Systems on 08/14/09 and since the trial was never cancelled I owed $99.95 for the service which is past due. They then said they tried to charge my American Express card and stated the last 4 digits. Problem#1, the card in mention was cancelled by me on 11-26-2007 so how did someone get that info? I tried to call the phone number 800-717-3019 and no one answers. I'm going to take the advise of the previous remarks and report these people to the FBI. Plus I'm going to file a complaint through Better Business Bureau. Just wanted to share my story in case anyone experiences the same thing. |
I got that exact same letter today 10/6/10, my card was also cancelled. I will call credit card comp. and cousin who is a lawyer.
Same here
Today I received the same thing as others. A letter indicating that I signed up for some random website called ONLINE SUCCEED SYSTEMS from Sanders Legal group 3665 East Bay Drive Suite 204-117 Largo, FL 33771. I owe $99.95 for past due because I didn't cancel in time. I never signed up for such a thing EVER. I've never even heard of such a place. Here is what I have found so far: ONLINE SUCCEED SYSTEMS website doesn't exist fail #1, fail #2 these schmucks legal website is really good but the phone number on Sanders Legal Group 1.877.362.3608 is disconnected hmm wouldn't a legal firm want that number to work to assist its clients supposedly. And fail #3 my favorite there is no indication of services rendered, date those services are rendered when my supposed trial period began etc. That being said if you run into this beware. I'm following up with my bank, credit report and thankfully I work with an attorney so I'll have him take a look at this and see what he recommends. I'll let you know what he says.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous The letter I received from Sanders Legal Group P.A. had a return address of 3665 East Bay Dr. Ste 204-117, Largo FL 33771. I called the number on the letter 800-717-3019 to dispute the charge and no one answered-just voice mail. The letter stated I did an online 30 day trial for Online Succeed Systems on 08/14/09 and since the trial was never cancelled I owed $99.95 for the service which is past due. They then said they tried to charge my American Express card and stated the last 4 digits. Problem#1, the card in mention was cancelled by me on 11-26-2007 so how did someone get that info? I tried to call the phone number 800-717-3019 and no one answers. I'm going to take the advise of the previous remarks and report these people to the FBI. Plus I'm going to file a complaint through Better Business Bureau. Just wanted to share my story in case anyone experiences the same thing. |
Oh my God. I am glad to see I am not the only one. Contact you
Oh my God. I am glad to see I am not the only one. Contact your bank right away and report them, maybe you can get your money back. I reported them to my bank as a fraud. I also faxed Sanders a letter telling them I was reporting them. I even called them back yesterday the day before they took out my $100 and told them that something did not seem right and that I was afraid it was scam and they told me not to worry they were here for me. How sick is that. then after I went online this AM and saw that it was Sanders LEgal Group, which is not where they told me they were from, I immediately called my bank and reported them. Hopefully I will get my money back. I am suppose to give them another $500 on the 19th. I had my bank cancel that debit card, so they wont be getting any more money from me!!!
I was scammed by them also. They were very rude and scary. I c
I was scammed by them also. They were very rude and scary. I contacted my bank and cancelled the second payment and they are looking into the first payment for fraud. Let me know what happened?
I was contacted on a Friday evening, by an Indian man with a hea
I was contacted on a Friday evening, by an Indian man with a heavy accent. He told me I owed 800.00 I had to make a 200.00 payment then two more 300.00 payments. I was told if I did not agree with the payment arangements then I would be picked up by police and taken to court and faced 8000.00 in fines and court fees. So I agreed to the payment arangement. I payed the 200.00 but the day of them taking out my second payment they never did so I did some research and figured out that they are scammers.
They get your info from payday loan companies you may have borrowed from that they put in a system and thats how they get you information.
Sanders is not a real law firm. Its address is a Mailboxes, etc
Sanders is not a real law firm. Its address is a Mailboxes, etc. store, its phone doesn't accept incoming calls, it has no bios for its lawyers on the website, it has no local number and its url is registered through a proxy in Grand Cayman. All it is is the Indians "picking up their game" and trying to make their scam look more believable. Don't fall for it!
well I had these people take out 1000 from my bank in nov and th
well I had these people take out 1000 from my bank in nov and they just called me again yesterday saying i need to pay ...so i called my bank today and did a fraud on this fake company and my bank is giving me back my money...and when i called this sanders company the lady said that she will refund my 1000 and she emailed me to saying it will be in my bank in 24 hrs....and if it was a high end company they wouldnt have a yahoo email mail ....the phone number are 1888-315-9147 and 760-566-6084 and 760-561-3514 has any one been called by thee number or they call from 0000...please make sure u have something in writing before u pay thank gosh my bank is giving me back my 1000.00 i was scard just like u ....these people are very sick...
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You all received a call and a letter from Sanders Legal Group, PC and not Sanders Law Group. Please correct your information. Please make sure you post the accurate name.
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You all received a call and a letter from Sanders Legal Group, P
You all received a call and a letter from Sanders Legal Group, PC and not Sanders Law Group. Please correct your information. Please make sure you post the accurate name.
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whatevs aren't they both bottomfeeders anyway?so big deal.
whatevs aren't they both bottomfeeders anyway?so big deal.