Consolidating Storefront Loans
Date: Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:50
Why don't you try to work it out with these store front companie
Why don't you try to work it out with these store front companies yourself, why pay someone to do what you can do yourself. Have you defaulted on any of these loans yet? What are the names of them, there may be another solution.
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonI have 4 storefront
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson I have 4 storefront loans, one of which is due Friday. Check N Go ACE Cash Express EZ Money Cash America Can someone help? I can't afford these anymore & don't know what consolidation companies work with storefront lenders. Any and all advice is appreciated!! |
I will give you some suggestions shortly.
First of all, the link below contains your payday loan laws: htt
First of all, the link below contains your payday loan laws:
http://www.paydayloaninfo.org/stateinfo/TX.asp
I haven't contacted them yest because they have my bank acct inf
I haven't contacted them yest because they have my bank acct info & am worried they'll just do something shady & as soon as I say I can't pay, try to debit my account.
I do believe that all of your store front lenders are members of
I do believe that all of your store front lenders are members of the CFSA ( Community Financial Services Association of America). This is good news because that means you are eligible for the EPP (Extended payment plan) but you must ask for it BEFORE you default! How it works, you will pay off these loans in four separate payments on each payday and the interest stops as soon as you sign up for it, read about it at the link below, number 11:
http://www.cfsa.net/industry_best_practices.html
http://www.cfsa.net/MemberList.aspx
My APR's are all 531%-$533%- maybe I misread but it seems that t
My APR's are all 531%-$533%- maybe I misread but it seems that this is over what's stated for the maximum APR?
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonI haven't contacted
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson I haven't contacted them yest because they have my bank acct info & am worried they'll just do something shady & as soon as I say I can't pay, try to debit my account. |
That's simple to take care of, all you need to do is write them a letter like the one below, send it to them certified, return receipt requested, then take a copy of the letter to your bank. But, if you request an EPP you won't need to worry about them debiting your account, if you can't afford an EPP on all of these then you will definitely need to send them a letter revoking their right to debit your account and revoking their right to a wage assignment, just in case you may have signed a clause stating they could attach your wages if you default. No worries, they can bother be revoked. Sample letter below:
The date
Your name and address
The name and address of the creditor
Your account number with the creditor
Dear Sir or Madam,
I hereby revoke your right to use any wage assignment I may or may not have signed with you. You no longer have my permission to use this wage assignment. I am also revoking your right to debit any and all of my personal accounts per the EFTA, regulation E, which is a federal law. If you fail to abide by my wishes, there will be consequences to your actions as I am sure you are aware. I have sent a copy of this to my employer and my financial institution, therefore any wage assignment or debit request or made by your company will be denied.
Sincerely,
Your signature
But with the combined total of all the loans, what if I can't pa
But with the combined total of all the loans, what if I can't pay them off in 4 pay periods using the EPP?
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonMy APR's are all 531
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson My APR's are all 531%-$533%- maybe I misread but it seems that this is over what's stated for the maximum APR? |
Are you certain these are payday loans and not personal loans or some other type of loan? In TX, there are lenders who call themselves CSO's or Credit Service Organizations, the Credit Services Organization model (unfortunately) IS NO LICENSING required by the state! CSO's are required to "Register" with the Secretary of State, they are NOT licensed, and their fees ARE NOT REGULATED. This means they can charge any amount of interest they desire.
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonBut with the combine
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson But with the combined total of all the loans, what if I can't pay them off in 4 pay periods using the EPP? |
If you can't pay them all off then at least choose two of them to request and EPP on, I would suggest Check n go and Ace Express because I know for a fact those are payday lenders. The other two I am wondering if they are actually CSO's. I do have a suggestion for them as well.
OK, great. IF I can A) Work out a payment arrangement with some
OK, great. IF I can A) Work out a payment arrangement with some of them that is only for the original loan amount and do the EPP with others, that sounds feasible. I just don't have the ability to pay them all off in a short period of time. I'm hoping that as long as I am paying them something per our arrangement, that I won't get screwed. Also, if I can B) Get them to agree to letting me pay it off in increments then hopefully, everybody wins.
Does that sound totally unfeasible?
All of them advertised themselves as being payday loans.
All of them advertised themselves as being payday loans.
This is what I would do if I were in your shoes, you can use my
This is what I would do if I were in your shoes, you can use my advice or do whatever you are comfortable with, but anyway this is what I would do.
I would obtain an EPP of the two I suggested above. Then I would send letters to the other two revoking their rights to debit my account and revoking any wage assignment I may have signed.
In the with the revocation letter I would include an outline of a proposal of how I intended to pay them back, as an example, let's say all I could afford would be 20 bucks a week. I realize it wouldn't be acceptable but that's too bad, 20 bucks is better than nothing and will stall them from suing me right away. So, faithfully, I would send them 20 bucks weekly with a money order and keep every receipt and all correspondence back and forth. I would also include a good faith payment with this letter, like clockwork I would make sure I got them their 20 bucks every week. I figure by the time they decide to sue me these loans will mostly be paid off, and even if they aren't, the judge would probably go easier on me because I would have proof that I was making an effort, and in these economic times I honestly believe a judge wouldn't order me to pay any more than I already was paying, especially if I could prove (with pay stubs) 20 bucks a week was all I could afford. That's what I would do.
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonAll of them advertis
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson All of them advertised themselves as being payday loans. |
Do you have proof of that? If you do, then you could print out the laws and take it into them and tell them if they don't reduce your interest you will report them to the FTC, which by the way, I would do anyhow!
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonOK, great. IF I can
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson OK, great. IF I can A) Work out a payment arrangement with some of them that is only for the original loan amount and do the EPP with others, that sounds feasible. I just don't have the ability to pay them all off in a short period of time. I'm hoping that as long as I am paying them something per our arrangement, that I won't get screwed. Also, if I can B) Get them to agree to letting me pay it off in increments then hopefully, everybody wins. Does that sound totally unfeasible? |
They MUST give you an EPP if you request it, that is a part of the rules they must follow for being a member of the CFSA, if they refuse, then I would threaten to turn them over to the CFSA, and follow through, because the CFSA will help you obtain the EPP if you are entitled to it.
That sounds excellent. I could probably afford to pay them $50 o
That sounds excellent. I could probably afford to pay them $50 or so every pay period, totaling $100/month. I'm hoping they will agree to this as A) I have never defaulted or been late- I always come in every payday, and B) As long as they eventually get their $ they should be happy.
Do the EEP's cover just the original loan amount or the interest as well?
[QUOTE=Shazzers;655487]They MUST give you an EPP if you request
[QUOTE=Shazzers;655487]They MUST give you an EPP if you request it, that is a part of the rules they must follow for being a member of the CFSA, if they refuse, then I would threaten to turn them over to the CFSA, and follow through, because the CFSA will help you obtain the EPP if you are entitled to it.[/QUOTE]
I think all but 1 are members.
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonThat sounds excellen
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson That sounds excellent. I could probably afford to pay them $50 or so every pay period, totaling $100/month. I'm hoping they will agree to this as A) I have never defaulted or been late- I always come in every payday, and B) As long as they eventually get their $ they should be happy. Do the EEP's cover just the original loan amount or the interest as well? |
They cover the entire amount but once you sign up for the extended payment plan the interest stops that day.
Holy moses- I didn't realize until now my full name was appearin
Holy moses- I didn't realize until now my full name was appearing on this lol! Eek- how do I change that!
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonHoly moses- I didn't
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson Holy moses- I didn't realize until now my full name was appearing on this lol! Eek- how do I change that! |
I can move this to the members only forum for now, but you will need to contact the Admin, or Jason so they can change your member name, just shoot them a PM. For now, I can move this to the "members only" forum, this way you can't be googled.
OK awesome. If you can direct me to them so I can request to hav
OK awesome. If you can direct me to them so I can request to have a screen name that would be awesome.
FYI- You've been so much help!! I can't thank you enough!
Here is a link for Jason, just click on "Contact Info". http://w
Here is a link for Jason, just click on "Contact Info".
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/member.php?u=293
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonOK awesome. If you c
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson OK awesome. If you can direct me to them so I can request to have a screen name that would be awesome. FYI- You've been so much help!! I can't thank you enough! |
You're quite welcome, please keep us posted!
Will do! I will contact the 2 about EPP, and the other 2 I will
Will do! I will contact the 2 about EPP, and the other 2 I will call & ask about my options as far as a payment plan, and if they're unagreeable, I'll do the letters tomorrow so I can show proof that it was mailed before Friday & they should get it in time to not try to debit my account. I should address it to the actual loan companies, right (NCP Finance, etc)? BUt given that 1 loan is due on Friday, I want the actual store to have the letter by then. Ideas?
Quote:Originally Posted by Kelley MacPhersonWill do! I will con
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Originally Posted by Kelley MacPherson Will do! I will contact the 2 about EPP, and the other 2 I will call & ask about my options as far as a payment plan, and if they're unagreeable, I'll do the letters tomorrow so I can show proof that it was mailed before Friday & they should get it in time to not try to debit my account. I should address it to the actual loan companies, right (NCP Finance, etc)? BUt given that 1 loan is due on Friday, I want the actual store to have the letter by then. Ideas? |
The actual store where you obtained the loan, yes.
I think 2 of the 3 are willing to work with me, BTW. The 3rd sai
I think 2 of the 3 are willing to work with me, BTW. The 3rd said they aren't willing to do the EPP, even though they're on the list you gave me. So, I'm faxing & mailing them a certified letter. But I did freeze my bank account, upon the advice of a 3rd party consolidation company (who I decided not to go with as if I'm going to have to pay them off anyways, why pay a company almost $1,000 to do it?). 2 of them are being pretty cool about it, but that 3rd one is not willing to budge.