spot loan, mypaydayloan.com and mobiloan
Date: Tue, 02/24/2015 - 06:18
I sent ach revocation and close account letters to all three. I live in Ohio. Mobiloans did not respond to my email or fax, however I can no longer log into the account. Spot loan has not responded at all, and mypaydayloan.com sent a bizzare response. Spot loan I owe principal bal of @200, can't find my paperwork to be sure, but offerred to pay the principal only. mobiloans was overpaid by a thousand, i know they'll never send the overpayment. Mypayday loan I owe 195.00 principal and offerred to pay it. they sent the following response:(do not at all understand why they're including something about copyright. Suggestions for this response, and help with spotloan, anyone?
In acknowledgment of the email we received, we would like to clarify the issues pertaining to the transaction you originated with Mypaydayloan.com.
First, we wish to remind you that all correspondence from Mypaydayloan.com is copyrighted, and you consented to such before applying for an advance.
Specifically, the website states:
Except where expressly provided otherwise herein, all emails, comments, feedback, information or materials submitted to Mypaydayloan.com through or in association with this web site ("Submissions") shall be considered Mypaydayloan.com's copyrighted property. By providing such Submissions to Mypaydayloan.com, you agree to assign to Mypaydayloan.com all worldwide rights, title and interest in the copyrights and other intellectual property rights to the Submissions.
Any publication, posting, or dissemination of such information is in direct violation of this agreement and you will then be liable for copyright infringement, disclosure of confidential information, and breach of contract. Additionally, because it would be difficult, if not impossible, to determine the amount of damages to Mypaydayloan.com, you will be liable for liquidated damages in the amount of $25,000, per violation, for your publication, posting, or dissemination of information from or relating to Mypaydayloan.com. You agreed to this provision immediately after your email was validated, and before you proceeded with the application. Failure to remove any postings within two business days of receipt of this letter may result in a civil suit for liquidated damages.
Mypaydayloan.com is a Costa Rican corporation with servers, offices, employees, and all other important elements of the transaction located in Costa Rica. You engaged in an unsolicited transaction with Mypaydayloan.com, a Costa Rican company. Furthermore, in the contract you agreed that the transaction would be deemed to occur in our country, Costa Rica, and you agreed to be bound by Costa Rican Law.
Specifically, the contract you signed in order to receive an advance clearly states:
GOVERNING LAW: Both this agreement and the application is considered to be executed at our offices in San Jose, Costa Rica, and this transaction and agreement with us shall be governed by, construed, and enforced solely in accordance with the internal laws of Costa Rica.
Forum selection clauses, like the one above, are supported by U.S. case law. For example, see the opinion of the United States Supreme Court in M/S Bremen v. Zapata Off-Shore Co., 407 U.S. 1, (1972). Likewise, U.S. courts have upheld the sovereignty of foreign entities engaging in unsolicited business in the United States. Crown Beverage Co., Inc. v. Cerveceria Moctezuma, S.A., 663 F.2d 886, 888 (9th Cir. 1981)
Furthermore, the controlling forum for a contract is determined by the “lex loci contractus,” which is the law of the place where a contract is made. A contract is deemed to be executed where the final act necessary to make it binding has been completed. In this instance, the transaction was not binding until reviewed and approved by Mypaydayloan.com, after they received all information from you to make a decision to enter into the agreement. Hence, the final act to make the transaction binding was in the jurisdiction of Costa Rica, and that country’s laws are binding. See e.g., Mitsubishi Int'l Corp. v. Clark Pipe & Supply Co., Inc., 735 F.2d 160, 164 (5th Cir. 1984).
Lastly, any comment about specific interest rate caps based on the laws of your state simply do not apply, as the money transferred to you was an advance on a check, and not a loan. There are important differences that are a benefit to you and should be clarified.
First, in order for a transaction to be a loan, it must accrue interest. You were charged a flat fee per $100 dollars advanced. Because a fee is not interest, there is no accrual element to this transaction. When you defaulted you were not charged a percentage of the unpaid balance. You were charged a fee for defaulting, and you may have also been charged an NSF fee, if applicable, both of which you agreed to in the contract.
Secondly, if a transaction is a loan, it has a compounding element whereby any unpaid charges would be included in the interest calculation and added to the total amount owed. Instead, in your transaction with us, you agreed to be charged flat fees for overdue balances and other breaches of your contract. Those fees do not compound or increase as the unpaid balance goes up.
As such, the standard usury laws—or maximum allowed interest rates—do not apply to this transaction. This principle is no different than when your bank charges you an overdraft fee to cover a check where there are not enough funds in the account to cover the check. You were advanced funds based on your next check from your employer. So whether that was five days away or twenty, the fee is the same.
You are hereby advised to abide by the agreements in your contract with Mypaydayloan.com, and contact the collections department to make a payment arrangement. Your balance is $468 and I can settle it for $360.I will like to schedule three payments of $120 on 3/6, 3/20 and 4/3. Payments can be done vy ACH debit, credit/debit card or by Money Gram. Failure to do so within two business days of receipt of this letter will result in your account being reported to appropriate credit agencies as in default of your obligations, and sent to an outside collection agency, which will subject you to additional fees and may prevent future credit transactions with other companies. Please govern yourself accordingly.
Sincerely,
Marco 888-269-2303 x18
Notice of Confidentiality: The information included and/or attached in this electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, distribution is expressly prohibited without express written permission from the company, and is considered copyrighted property of the company, regardless of the author. If you believe that you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it.
In acknowledgment of the email we received, we would like to clarify the issues pertaining to the transaction you originated with Mypaydayloan.com.
First, we wish to remind you that all correspondence from Mypaydayloan.com is copyrighted, and you consented to such before applying for an advance.
Specifically, the website states:
Except where expressly provided otherwise herein, all emails, comments, feedback, information or materials submitted to Mypaydayloan.com through or in association with this web site ("Submissions") shall be considered Mypaydayloan.com's copyrighted property. By providing such Submissions to Mypaydayloan.com, you agree to assign to Mypaydayloan.com all worldwide rights, title and interest in the copyrights and other intellectual property rights to the Submissions.
Any publication, posting, or dissemination of such information is in direct violation of this agreement and you will then be liable for copyright infringement, disclosure of confidential information, and breach of contract. Additionally, because it would be difficult, if not impossible, to determine the amount of damages to Mypaydayloan.com, you will be liable for liquidated damages in the amount of $25,000, per violation, for your publication, posting, or dissemination of information from or relating to Mypaydayloan.com. You agreed to this provision immediately after your email was validated, and before you proceeded with the application. Failure to remove any postings within two business days of receipt of this letter may result in a civil suit for liquidated damages.
Mypaydayloan.com is a Costa Rican corporation with servers, offices, employees, and all other important elements of the transaction located in Costa Rica. You engaged in an unsolicited transaction with Mypaydayloan.com, a Costa Rican company. Furthermore, in the contract you agreed that the transaction would be deemed to occur in our country, Costa Rica, and you agreed to be bound by Costa Rican Law.
Specifically, the contract you signed in order to receive an advance clearly states:
GOVERNING LAW: Both this agreement and the application is considered to be executed at our offices in San Jose, Costa Rica, and this transaction and agreement with us shall be governed by, construed, and enforced solely in accordance with the internal laws of Costa Rica.
Forum selection clauses, like the one above, are supported by U.S. case law. For example, see the opinion of the United States Supreme Court in M/S Bremen v. Zapata Off-Shore Co., 407 U.S. 1, (1972). Likewise, U.S. courts have upheld the sovereignty of foreign entities engaging in unsolicited business in the United States. Crown Beverage Co., Inc. v. Cerveceria Moctezuma, S.A., 663 F.2d 886, 888 (9th Cir. 1981)
Furthermore, the controlling forum for a contract is determined by the “lex loci contractus,” which is the law of the place where a contract is made. A contract is deemed to be executed where the final act necessary to make it binding has been completed. In this instance, the transaction was not binding until reviewed and approved by Mypaydayloan.com, after they received all information from you to make a decision to enter into the agreement. Hence, the final act to make the transaction binding was in the jurisdiction of Costa Rica, and that country’s laws are binding. See e.g., Mitsubishi Int'l Corp. v. Clark Pipe & Supply Co., Inc., 735 F.2d 160, 164 (5th Cir. 1984).
Lastly, any comment about specific interest rate caps based on the laws of your state simply do not apply, as the money transferred to you was an advance on a check, and not a loan. There are important differences that are a benefit to you and should be clarified.
First, in order for a transaction to be a loan, it must accrue interest. You were charged a flat fee per $100 dollars advanced. Because a fee is not interest, there is no accrual element to this transaction. When you defaulted you were not charged a percentage of the unpaid balance. You were charged a fee for defaulting, and you may have also been charged an NSF fee, if applicable, both of which you agreed to in the contract.
Secondly, if a transaction is a loan, it has a compounding element whereby any unpaid charges would be included in the interest calculation and added to the total amount owed. Instead, in your transaction with us, you agreed to be charged flat fees for overdue balances and other breaches of your contract. Those fees do not compound or increase as the unpaid balance goes up.
As such, the standard usury laws—or maximum allowed interest rates—do not apply to this transaction. This principle is no different than when your bank charges you an overdraft fee to cover a check where there are not enough funds in the account to cover the check. You were advanced funds based on your next check from your employer. So whether that was five days away or twenty, the fee is the same.
You are hereby advised to abide by the agreements in your contract with Mypaydayloan.com, and contact the collections department to make a payment arrangement. Your balance is $468 and I can settle it for $360.I will like to schedule three payments of $120 on 3/6, 3/20 and 4/3. Payments can be done vy ACH debit, credit/debit card or by Money Gram. Failure to do so within two business days of receipt of this letter will result in your account being reported to appropriate credit agencies as in default of your obligations, and sent to an outside collection agency, which will subject you to additional fees and may prevent future credit transactions with other companies. Please govern yourself accordingly.
Sincerely,
Marco 888-269-2303 x18
Notice of Confidentiality: The information included and/or attached in this electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, distribution is expressly prohibited without express written permission from the company, and is considered copyrighted property of the company, regardless of the author. If you believe that you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it.
yes
of course.this marco is a loser who is lying through his rotting teeth.nothing in that email has a grain of truth except they are in costa rica.evrything else was just a fillibuster meant to insult.you should feel insulted as none of the three payment methods are secure,and he knows it.so yes send that verbatim.
also
for spot loan keep sending your email.they will respond soon enough.keep us posted as to what they,and mobiloans come up with.most likely insulting crap like mypaydayloan did.
bullshit
all that was bullshit meant to sway you,and lie to you.no offshore lender is legal,and governing law means nothing.respond just like this verbatim.
dear marco loser.if your fillibuster of an email was meant to do anything but amuse me you failed!!!!!!!!!!! i will noy pay a penny more than the 195.00 and sent to a verifiable address.also i will not lower myself to even try to talk to you as it would be a waste of my time.you want the 195.00?if not then too bad.
send that verbatim as marco is a cretin who thinks again a fillibuster email will make you weak in the knees and hand over sensitive data so he can not only take the supposed 460.00,but alot more than that.