Need Advice On How To Proceed

Wait for their replies. The illegal payday loan lenders may tell you that they don't fall under the US laws and you should pay them as per the loan agreement. But, don't believe them.

Why are you not able to open a new checking account? Ignore the illegal pdl lenders. Just make payments to the legal lenders.

Idk, telechex system or something. The bank told me something appeared on my credit report after I made the request which they said would take a day to process. So I got denied a new checking account. I did just receive the following from one of the pdl's, I took the person's name out who sent it:

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As clearly indicated in its Website disclaimers and the loan documents executed by you, White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC is a wholly Native American owned Limited Liability Company located within the boundaries of the Fort Belknap Indian Community (Tribe)???, a sovereign Native American Nation. As such, White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC conducts it business under Federal law and the laws of the Fort Belknap Indian Community (Tribe)???. Native American tribes have a special status under the US Constitution and as such are exempt from state regulation. Pursuant to Federal Law, White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC is a completely lawful enterprise in any area.

You specifically agreed to comply with all terms and conditions of the Loan Agreement upon execution and return to our office located on the Reservation. White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC relied upon your representations in good faith and approved your loan based upon such representations. White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC loaned you the money in good faith that you would repay the note as promised White Hills Cash/Island Finance, LLC is fully within its rights to seek repayment as originally agreed.
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Can anyone give me some more advice on what to do? I've got a new checking account, sent ACH and wage assignment revocation letters, filed with my state DFI so far and am wondering what to do next?

for one the email is BS and totally delusional.no tribal loan is legal,or enforceable.now glad to see you did get another account.just know that unless you give them the new number they don't have it,and you do not give it to them either.now you respond to the email this way.

i am not a member of the tribe,and that being the case my state law prevails.nice try.

then you wait to see who else responds and how they respond.keep us posted and enjoy the silence for now.

I did get a collections notice from HBC Services for one of the loans, however from what I can tell they are an illegal online PDL. I cannot find anything on them and received a call from a guy yesterday who said "If I don't call back or make payment arrangements he'll turn it over to lawyers who will then file against me for check fraud". I thought I've seen that I cannot be charged with check fraud for defaulting on a PDL. I've also been reading through statutes and found that any lender, regardless if they're store front or internet, need to be licensed in my state (WI) in order to issue loans to state residents. I left a message for consumer protection after trying to speak with my AG and didn't hear back today so I'm calling tomorrow. I'm hoping someone can give me more advice on what to do.

The ones I did send letters to, I never heard anything back from them other than the one I posted. Not a single one has sent me any type of message outside of the collections notice which is sounding semi bogus. Any ideas anybody?

you wait and see on these as you sent the letters.now as for the idiot who left the message.file complaints with your AG using any info you have as this loser broke the law with that call.then ignore furture calls from this bottomfeeder.just wait as you did what you needed to do thus far.as long as they can't access your money you are good.keep us posted for further responses from anybody else.

You can obtain a free annual copy of your TeleCheck report by calling 1-800-366-2425. If an illegal PDL has reported negative information on your report, you can dispute it. If your prior bank reported you to TC due to multiple overdrafts, or NSF returns that were incurred because of illegal PDLs, you should dispute those as well.

Should I send a debt validation letter to the collection agency this guy called from? I just thought it was funny that he said their lawyers, who aren't in my state, would file for check fraud in my city. He also asked that I give him my credit or debit card information to make a payment, which I told him I have yet to receive and wouldn't make a payment until January anyways. I asked that he not only email me a summary of the payment options but also send me a letter stating these and I so far, 3 days later, have not received an email with any information. I'm not calling the guy back at all.

If he sounded like he was in India, I would just ignore.

If they're in the states, yes - send the validation letter.

Lol no he was in the states, I did get a collection notice in the mail however I did also ask for a break down of the payment options which I was not given yet.

One of the company's I did send the illegal pdl letter to, AdvanceMeToday, who is in Costa Rica of all places, just left me a voicemail asking to call them back. I've sent them a letter stating I only wish to talk through mail or email. I borrowed $400 from them and paid 1 refinance fee of $120 and stated I would pay back the remaining $280 however only if provided with a physical mailing address. Since they're the original creditor, would it matter if I sent a cease and desist stating to stop calling my work?

They're operating illegally already. What do you think? ;)

So I received an email from the same place that I posted the response up above stating they are going to report me as writing bad checks. Is this even possible with PDL's, especially illegal online tribal ones?

to report you to SCAN,or CERTEGY they would have to produce the actual check.an ach debit consent is not a check.an empty threat by a piece of dirt.

What about the one that I did get a collections notice saying they'd take me to court if I didn't make payment arrangements. They said they'd file in my county for check fraud. Is that even possible? I still never heard back from the Consumer Protection Dept when I called the AG. I may just file online complaints with the AG over the weekend then call next week. I just don't know what I can and can't do with these people.

Stop believing what they tell you. Stop letting them intimidate you. They are trying to collect on an ILLEGAL loan. They don't have a leg to stand on.

I sent a debt validation letter today for them to validate the debt as it's an illegal loan. I have another question, I keep getting emails, not calls or letters, saying certain accounts were sent to national credit adjusters. Doesn't say who the account was with but gives a phone number, no address and from a noreply@ email address. How do I go about validating these?

I'm not letting them intimidate me however I do want to make sure I'm following all necessary steps before I do anything. Every piece of advice so far has been very helpful and I appreciate everyone's input :)

NCA is a bottomfeeder that loves to break the law in attempting to collect illegal loans.just know that.also the fact you are doing fine and do keep us further informed.

I received a call from someone, who only identified their name not what company they were with or what this was about, that if I did not return their call within 24 hours a writ of execution was going to be filed. Anyone know what I am supposed to do or if this is even possible?

those calls are a joke.they are meant to get you on the phone so they can threaten you.ignore them completely.a waste of your time to call,and to worry about.

I think the company is Audobon Financial Bureau. I got 2 emails from them saying a final notice for collections. I responded stating I've never heard of them and if it is a debt that I am entitled to be notified in writing and have the option of disputing. Never heard back but the number I was called from matches the one on the email. This is getting annoying. Is there anything I can do like report them somewhere?

if you have that info on them then file AG,AND FTC complaints against them.then ignore them,but yes file those complaints.

Well I got a response back from the state DFI, one IIPDL, UsFastCash, marked my account paid in full!


I am going to file the complaints on this guy with those 2 places. I'm hoping to get these matters resolved fairly soon I'm sick of getting calls from some of these places. Absolutely was not expecting to hear that from my state DFI though so I am thrilled.

I will keep you posted as I get more info, but Paul and everyone I very much appreciate your help throughout all of this!

I'm getting contacted by HBC Services after I sent them a DV letter for the illegal PDL from the National Group I almost paid all of the principal on. When I last spoke, they denied receiving a letter despite me having certified electronic return receipt.

I got a call today from their "attorney" and I was under the assumption that they are not to contact me within the 30 days after receiving the DV letter. They received it on 1/12/2012 and I've been called twice. I've already filed a complaint with the FTC I'm wondering what else I can do within my rights. The last time they called I was transferred to a "supervisor" who basically told me I had no rights, was rude/harassing and just kept trying to get me to admit things on the phone. I'm smarter than that, and just kept saying I have no documentation from the original creditor that you are trying to collect for and requested the debt to be validated with the original documented agreement they allege as well as their legal right to collect it in my state. I ended up hanging up because the lady was so rude.

Anybody have any suggestions?

you can do either of the following.

1)go to www.naca.net and get an fdcpa contingency lawyer and sue this piece of sh*t,or
2)stop talking to this piece of sh*t

either or works,but i prefer you excerise option 1 as they need to be sued asap.they are violating the fdcpa by calling and harrasing you.btw if you can get the part about you having no rights on tape.it's a two foot putt for 1,000.00 for you.