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My Debt Consolidation and Payday Loan Horror Story

Date: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:19

Submitted by Jenn
on Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:19

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In 2004 I was contacted by a consolidation company, Federated Financial, who asked me if I was interested in consolidating my credit cards. I had about $8,000 in credit card debt at the time. I wasn't behind on any of my payments but my fiance had just been laid off and I wanted to get my credit cards paid off before I got out of law school. They told me they would lower my interest rates and I would be out of debt in 3 years. My first payment was taken directly from my checking account in August 2004. In September I started getting phone calls from the cc companies asking where my payments were. I told them I had joined a debt consolidation company and they were handling my payments. I called Federated and told me not to worry because they had sent out all my proposals and were paying all my creditors. I had noticed I was getting charged late fees and over the credit limit fees. Federated told me not to worry because after three months of consecutive on time payments, all fees and negative marks would be removed from my file. So, I decided to check my credit report and I was livid. I had six months worth of 30 day late payments for each of my credit cards and my score was in the dumps. I called Federated and they acted like they were shocked. I asked if these negatives would be removed since I had been making on-time consecutive payments for about six or seven months. Of course none of the late fees were waived, none of the over the credit limit fees were waived, and none of the negative marks were removed from my credit file. Apparently, Federated kept my first payment in August as a fee, didn't tell me, didn't pay my bills in August, and that started the snow ball effect. I sent letters to all of the cc companies but got no response. I called each of them and explained my situation but none of them would do anythign to help, except for Citi Bank who deleted all negatives from my credit file, removed all the fees and were really understanding. Then, because my credit was completely ruined, I couldn't get any private loans for law school. Money was tight because my fiance still wasn't working so I took out a payday loan. Then I took another one to pay for that one, and the vicious cycle began. I kept up with the numerous loans until I just couldn't live anymore. My entire paycheck was being taken from payday loan fees and they were just the rollover fees - none of principal balances were being reduced. So, I decided to try to get a $10,000 loan to pay for school expenses and pay off these payday loans. I was contacted by Westgate Corporation who said I had been approved for a $10,000 loan. They had me fax over copies of my DL, SS card, paystub, MY ENTIRE LIFE. Then they faxed me a contract, which looked legitimate, and I signed it and sent it back. Then came the catch. Because of my poor credit score, I would need to purchase disability insurance for $900 so if I lost my job or got hurt my loan would be covered. I borrowed more payday loans thinking I could just pay them back when I got my loan. I sent the money via MoneyGram and when my money wasn't in my account the next day, I called them back. They said the woman I spoke to had miscalculated my insurance and I needed to send in another $600, which I did. Soon thereafter, I realized it was a scam. I was in shock. I work in a law firm and am pretty intelligent and just couldn't believe this was happening to me. Of course, since I didn't get the money, all the payday loans caused my checking account to go into overdraft and I had to close it. I thought things were bad then, but now they were even worse. I had payday loan companies and collectors calling me 10 times a day at work, leaving messages on my VM, and even calling and harassing my parents. My work was nice enough to give me a $5000 loan to pay some of my debts off and so I wouldn't get sued but by this time, with the thousands of dollars of payday loans and thousands of dollars of fees they tacked on to my balances, it still wasn't enough. I used the entire $5000 to pay some off and make payments on others. I worked out manageable payment arrangements with some companies and others would accept nothing but full payment. As if that harrassment wasn't bad enough, then I started getting people calling me, like Ellis & Crosby, stating that they were going to arrest me if I didn't pay. Ellis was the first one who called me and gave me that line of BS so I fell for it (being in law school I didn't want a criminal record) and I borrowed money from my parents to pay them. Then I came here and other forums and found out that what they did to me was illegal not to mention they sold my information for the same debt that was now paid to other sharks who to this day, every few months or so, call me from a different company threatening to put me in jail. I sued Ellis Crosby for violation of my FDCP rights and but they filed bankruptcy. I finally paid all the payday loans off recently but it ended up costing me thousands and thousands of dollars more than the money I borrowed. For instance, I borrowed $400 from PaydayOk which is one of the cheapest at $10 per hundred dollars borrowed, and I ended up paying them $1377 dollars for a $400 loan. Sonic Payday was by far the worse because they refused to allow you to make payments and threatened to garnish my wages. Tremont Financial threatened to garnish my wages for $60 that I refused to pay because they charged me for more fees that was listed on my contract. I ended up paying it because I didn't want to be embarassed by having them call my work to garnish my wages for $60. My advice to those who are having financial problems is this: debt consolidation does work but you need to check into the company before joining. Make sure they send you statements about where you're money is going on a regular basis. Make sure they aren't charging you hidden fees or not making your payments on time. NEVER TAKE PAYDAY LOANS. You may think that they will help you but they will not. You will end up paying more money than you think and it will begin a vicious cycle that will be hard to get out from. Lastly, NEVER send money in advance for a loan. This is called advance-fee loan schemes. I hope that my experiences will save someone else from making the same mistakes I did and learning the lesson the hard way like me. I still struggle financially but I've learned how to manage my budget and when money is tight, and I've learned ways to keep my expenses to a minimum. On top of all of that, I've had to maintain fraud alerts on my credit reports because all of my information was taken and I had accounts opened in my name that weren't mine. My advice on that is to pay the $15 a month to have all of your credit files monitored and fix any errors on them. That is definately money well spent. Good luck to all!


Hope you are working things out now. You really got a bum deal.


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Submitted by jmid1969 on Fri, 04/21/2006 - 12:50

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Hi jhimmelein

Someone reading your post will learn valuable things on financial planning. It's true that debt consolidation is the best way to put back the finance in order when you are going through hard times in paying off your debt. Have everything sorted out with the consolidation company before signing the contract.

The best thing about you is that you have made others aware not to rely on PDL during hard times. Most of us don't know the inner facts about this "easiest cash". Your practical experience will make others understand the hidden facts in this industry. Lastly, I will suggest you to make better financial decisions and your credit will shape up nicely over a period of time. I wish you all the best in your decision making. :)

Regards
Roxette


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Submitted by roxette on Fri, 04/21/2006 - 18:08

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Thank you to everyone for your comments and support. It took me a long time to pay everything off. Actually, I just paid the last payday loan off today. FINALLY!!! I estimate that I paid over $10,000 in payday loans when it was all said and done. I think I took my first loan out in the summer of 2004 and have been dealing with these people since then. I closed my checking account in April of 2005 and it took me until now (a year later) to pay everything off.

Like I said, to this day, I still have collectors calling and threatening but now I am better informed on my rights and I know how to handle these people. You can't let them intimidate you and violate your rights. I went through that stage and realized that I would be paying forever on these things because even if you pay one of these so called "collectors" or "attorneys" that are not legitimate, they will still sell your information to other sharks and they will continue to harass you for the same debt. If you're not careful, you could be paying for the same debt over and over again.

It has been very tough for me because not only am I working full time at a law firm which is a very stressful job, but also attending law school at night. On top of that I was dealing with these people harassing me and threatening me daily. It was a tough time but I am very glad it seems to be over and although I wish this didn't happen to me, in a way I'm glad it did. It made me a much more financially savvy person, I developed a budget for myself and am sticking to it no matter what. I learned how to properly deal with collectors and debt consolidation companies and am now able to share my experience with others to hopefully either prevent them from making the same mistakes I did or to help them get through it if they are in the middle of trying to break the payday loan cycle. I have to think that something good must come out of my experience as horrible as it was for me at the time. I am still struggling financially but I have learned to make ends meet by keeping my expenses low, going after the deals, keeping my extra spending limited, and not eating out or buying expensive food. I don't buy anything unless its on sale and I've been able to pay all my bills and even put some extra money in my savings!!! Slowly but surely, I am recovering from this whole ordeal. My credit is also slowly but surely getting better and in a few years after all my hard work, I will have great credit and hopefully a small nest egg.

Thank you again to everyone for your positive comments and support.


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Submitted by Jenn on Fri, 04/21/2006 - 23:04

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Whooaaa! You were in quite a pickle! Your story is living proof that any financial farce can be overcame. Many people here feel as though this payday loan nightmare will never end. You have proven that it will, even when you had dealt with a messy consolidation company, you still cleaned house! Bravo, and thank you for sharing this!


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Submitted by Jedi Mistress Ari on Thu, 04/27/2006 - 19:58

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Thanks Jedi Mistress Ari!!!
You stated:
"Many people here feel as though this payday loan nightmare will never end."

That is exactly why I decided to post my story here. When I first started going through all this I felt the same way. I didn't know how to get through it or what to do. It wasn't until I came to this website and started reading through the various posts and talked to an attorney that I realized that I could fight back and I would make it through. It was also very hard for me because I was REALLY embarassed about the whole situation and was going through it alone for a long time. That made it really tough too. BUT, to anyone going through this same thing right now I just want to say that you will make it through and it will end at some point. It may not be as quick as you would like (I know it wasn't for me) but it can be done.

When I become an attorney I do plan on helping those who have been victims of PDL's and these other schemes. I hope that I can be an advocate for those who have suffered at the hands of these people. All of these PDL companies should be shut down for good.


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Submitted by Jenn on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 04:26

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No, I'm not a lawyer quite yet. I still have a couple more years to go. BUT when I do become a lawyer I really want to make a difference and help to get these companies shut down....or at least sue the crap out of them so they'll be paying us back for all the money they scammed from us!! Then maybe then they'll learn their lesson.


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Submitted by Jenn on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 11:20

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Hi Jenn

With so much inspiration in you, I am sure you will become a great advocate in the future and do community welfare. With that said, you have set some positive examples for those who are fighting with their payday loan problems and trying to come out of it. Being in a situation like this is not a curse; all we have to do is to place it back into the right order. Everything that begins has an end and anything done for good ends well. I wish you all the best in your future.


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Submitted by john on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 15:18

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Thank you John.

Jedi Mistress: Exactly!!! We will make them pay by taking all their money!!! I would try to get it so we could debit their account every payday but only for the rollover amount if they couldn't pay the millions we sue them for. We'll set it up so they can see how horrible they treated everyone they were RIPPING OFF!!

My mom works at a bank and she says those people are legalized loan sharking and she can't believe with such strict laws on banks, that there aren't more states will laws making PDL loans illegal. The amount of money they make is ridiculous.

PLUS, I get emails everyday and see commercials on TV and on the radio saying PDL loans will help you and that they are a good thing. Literally, I get emails that the subject reads "Payday Loans are a good thing and will help you when you need it" WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!! That is how they are getting more and more people to fall for their scheme. A person who is struggling and who has never heard of PDL (like I was) will fall for it and think its a great bargain.

I can't believe our government isn't doing more to stop these people. They don't seem to care. When I got scammed by those advance fee loan people, I filed claims with the BBB, FTC, Attorney's General for Wisconsin and Ohio, etc. and each of them said "I'm sorry you lost $1600. That's too bad. There's nothing we can do to help you." WRONG ANSWER!!! That is what they are there for and they should be working night and day to put these PDL lenders out of business and get all these other scammers out of here!!


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Submitted by Jenn on Sat, 04/29/2006 - 05:44

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If we talk about the government, they might be thinking that payday loan is for those people who can pay back the amount within the next payday. I am sure those who have extra cash can easily afford to pay it back. With that said, the government has no reason to ban the network as it means legitimate business to them.

We consumers need to know if we are suitable for applying for a payday loan. Our financial problems are one of the blooming reasons of their business. They want to earn large profits in the form of interests.

Government has to categorize between those who can pay back and those who can't. If the majority falls under the financially distressed group, we hold a case.


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Submitted by john on Sat, 04/29/2006 - 15:02

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I'm not saying the government should necessarily ban PDLs but they need to regulate them much more closely. They are charging REALLY high interest rates and are not preying on those who CAN afford to pay them back but rather those who CANNOT pay them back. They advertise like these are a good thing and I'm sorry but they are not gearing them towards those who can afford to pay them back in one paycheck. Plus, I bet that probably more than 90% of those who take PDLs cannot pay them back within one paycheck.

The government finds it necessary to regulate banks and other lending institutions so why not payday lenders?

I'd like to know how the government is profiting from payday lending. Most are not legitimate companies so I doubt they have investors. They are paying higher taxes I'm sure but I can't believe that its enough money to make our citizens suffer, especially the ones who may be on the brink of bankruptcy, etc.

I just think something needs to be done with our federal/state/local governments to make this much more regulated than it is now and to punish those who violate the law.

I didn't mean to start a war about the government or anything but I just think they ought to be placing more stringent regulation on payday lenders.


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Submitted by Jenn on Sat, 04/29/2006 - 15:33

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Jenn--I reread your original posts and your responses. Your story should be used as an example of how to persevere and not let financial problems ruin your life. As I said before it would have been so EASY to chuck it all. That is why I hope more people read your story. It CAN be fixed, you CAN get out of debt if you PERSEVERE!!!


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Submitted by Lorri on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 16:44

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Lorri: That is so true. Even though at the time I WAS very depressed and thought about giving up many times, I just kept thinking that someday this would all end. As I learned more and more about what my rights were, and read other people's stories on this site and others, and learned how to fight back, I got much stronger and did fight back.

I did think my life was over and having financial problems is the worst. I felt ashamed and embarassed, not to mention it put a severe strain on my relationship with my fiance. I've been through a lot of bad things in my life but this was by far the WORST.

I also hope that someone in a similar situation will read my story and it will help them see the light at the end of the tunnel. :)


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Submitted by Jenn on Fri, 05/19/2006 - 04:25

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I know I learned the lesson the hard way. I just wish I had seen this site a LONG time ago so I would have known not to get involved with PDL's. When I took the first one, I had no idea how shady they were or what a horrible mess my life would become. Their advertising makes it seem like PDLs will help you and they're a good thing. Knowing what I know now, although I am glad I learned a VERY good lesson, I still wish I never went down that road and could have learned from others before making the mistake myself.


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Submitted by Jenn on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 05:01

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I just read your post about the payday loan horror story and being approved for a loan requiring you to pay "disability insurance". The same thing has just happened to me. The only difference is that I am a RN trying to pay for med school and the company is called Norwest Financial Group. I feel so foolish and stupid. I actually checked out this company with the BBB but they have no complaints filed within the past 36 months. The information they have listed has the same address but a different phone number. In addition this company has a very legitimate looking website so out of desperation I trusted the "loan officer" (named Lindsay Cardwell). After my funds weren't deposited as promised and after I was finally able to reach him (by using his private number I had the foresight to save), he told me he was working on the problem. When he called me back I was told the "unfortunately the bank is undergoing a government audit which has delayed releasing the loan proceeds", but he would work on finding a new lender for the $7500. Amazingly enough he found one, even with my horrible credit score (average between three agencies is 647 but had bancrupcy discharge 11/04 due to a catastrophic illness). All I had to do was wire him another $760.00 and I would have my funds in 2-3 hours. I asked him why he can't use the >$1600.00 I had just wired him and was told he is just the "broker" and "it is illegal to transfer funds between banks". Further he said he has already "processed my refund to arrive within 30 days by mail". I told him I have already taken out more payday loans to pay the first premiums and have no money left (not even to purchase fuel oil which I desperately need) and reiterated to him that I am afraid this is not a legitimate business but an elaborate scam. Further, if I actually receive his refund (highly unlikely), I will get back with him to proceed with the loan. He indicated his understanding of my circumstances and hung up. That was only two days ago. The first time I accused him of being involved in a scam, he became very indignant and asked me why I would think that. I told him my reason for "thinking he was not a person with a shred of integrity" was because the funds were not deposited as he promised and all of a sudden I can't reach him, even after leaving several messages, which had not been a problem prior to him stealing my money. He just said I am not his only customer. I thought to myself "I bet, there are a great deal of us in desperate financial situations that he can take advantage of.":(
If you have any advise for me on how to proceed or regarding reporting fraudulent business practices, I would be most appreciative.


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Submitted by Sandra J Neumann on Thu, 01/28/2010 - 09:15

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Originally Posted by Sandra J Neumann
I just read your post about the payday loan horror story and being approved for a loan requiring you to pay "disability insurance". The same thing has just happened to me. The only difference is that I am a RN trying to pay for med school and the company is called Norwest Financial Group. I feel so foolish and stupid. I actually checked out this company with the BBB but they have no complaints filed within the past 36 months. The information they have listed has the same address but a different phone number. In addition this company has a very legitimate looking website so out of desperation I trusted the "loan officer" (named Lindsay Cardwell). After my funds weren't deposited as promised and after I was finally able to reach him (by using his private number I had the foresight to save), he told me he was working on the problem. When he called me back I was told the "unfortunately the bank is undergoing a government audit which has delayed releasing the loan proceeds", but he would work on finding a new lender for the $7500. Amazingly enough he found one, even with my horrible credit score (average between three agencies is 647 but had bancrupcy discharge 11/04 due to a catastrophic illness). All I had to do was wire him another $760.00 and I would have my funds in 2-3 hours. I asked him why he can't use the >$1600.00 I had just wired him and was told he is just the "broker" and "it is illegal to transfer funds between banks". Further he said he has already "processed my refund to arrive within 30 days by mail". I told him I have already taken out more payday loans to pay the first premiums and have no money left (not even to purchase fuel oil which I desperately need) and reiterated to him that I am afraid this is not a legitimate business but an elaborate scam. Further, if I actually receive his refund (highly unlikely), I will get back with him to proceed with the loan. He indicated his understanding of my circumstances and hung up. That was only two days ago. The first time I accused him of being involved in a scam, he became very indignant and asked me why I would think that. I told him my reason for "thinking he was not a person with a shred of integrity" was because the funds were not deposited as he promised and all of a sudden I can't reach him, even after leaving several messages, which had not been a problem prior to him stealing my money. He just said I am not his only customer. I thought to myself "I bet, there are a great deal of us in desperate financial situations that he can take advantage of.":(
If you have any advise for me on how to proceed or regarding reporting fraudulent business practices, I would be most appreciative.

CLICK HERE to find out how to deal with illegal lenders.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Thu, 01/28/2010 - 16:17

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Well I used a company called DS Financial. They only charged me a small fee based on what I owed and they negotiated with the creditors for a few months and brought me some time to get my finances in order. I paid my creditors directly and if I didnt like a settlement deal they brought me some more time. I don't know how they did it but I didn't hear from one creditor and they settled all of my debt for 22.5 cents on the dollar exactly 205 days later. Give them a call at 866-833-6398


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Submitted by on Mon, 03/29/2010 - 14:14

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My name is jennifer and I went with Preferred Financial Services, I was contacted after I was browsing the web for just ideas about what to do. My situation - i was making the min payments to my creditors, sometimse ( about every other month or so) making more than the min. and not really making much head way. I got contacted by a TON of companies and made appointments with most of them...just comparing doing the edcuated consumer thing. What I didn't know was how complicated this process can be. After becoming overwhelmed I finally spoke with Preferred Financial which ( after verfiing their certs) turned out to be a good company. Their success rate is the highest for Debt Settlement. Because I was still scared to be honest, i waited and thought on it. Finally I did join much to my relief I am almost done with my program. My point is just do the research, ask questions and get the ansewers that you need to make a good choice. There are pro's and con's in my eyes - saving over 20k is worth it to me. My advice to other people struggling is take your time ( just not to muich hhaha) and take the plunge. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and have saved a good chunk of money. You just have to go with a company that is doing it right.


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Submitted by on Thu, 04/01/2010 - 14:41

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Hi,John,
Payday loans are in a way helpful to customers as its the hassle free process of getting fast cash ,where there are only two criteria s to fulfill-age and income,to let you know that at times the consequences are fatal as the interest rates are too high and may be that is the reason why the government had made payday loans illegal in many states of the US.


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Submitted by Rebecca Miller on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 15:30

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Originally Posted by Rebecca Miller
Hi,John,
Payday loans are in a way helpful to customers as its the hassle free process of getting fast cash ,where there are only two criteria s to fulfill-age and income,to let you know that at times the consequences are fatal as the interest rates are too high and may be that is the reason why the government had made payday loans illegal in many states of the US.

The "consequences are fatal"???? :confused:


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Submitted by Shazzers on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 15:53

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pay day loans are not good it is a good idea not to take them but they cant be avoided either they come hand in hand as short term solution to our financial problems and then have long devastating effect on our lives for a long period of time i haven't come across one person who has taken a payday loan and not regretted
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i am in the state of georgia/ and i currently going through the same thing/ i feel like sometime i could stick my head in hole and stay there

we are here to take you out of the whole my be you could tell us more a bout the situation so we can help you.


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Submitted by Adam. Augustine on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 16:49

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