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Being Sued

Date: Sun, 04/01/2007 - 21:20

Submitted by mgerman
on Sun, 04/01/2007 - 21:20

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I was "served" with a summons regarding an old debt (the summons was left on my porch, and I live in a multi-unit apartment). What is the best response? I definitely owe the money, but have limited ability (make that zero) to make a large payment. I certainly can't afford a lawyer or even legal advice. Can a debt consolidation company help at this point? The short history on the debt is that after I fell behind, I got a letter from the collection agency. I sent a written response and was not contacted again. Months later, I was contacted by a debt collection law firm who also did not respond to my written response to them. Now, nearly a year later, the summons left on my porch.

Also, I'm wondering if this is a real summons. It was left on my porch. There was no mention of a court date. The summons said, "a lawsuit has been started against you" and that I have "20 days to serve a response in writing to the plaintiff".


Usually you are given a time period to file your answer. You usually have 3 choices: Pay up in full, request a hearing, or request a jury trial. The last two usually require a fee, but you can file your answer and pay the fee later in most places.

You have to get your answer to the court house within the time period, or else a default judgement will be entered against you.


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Submitted by goudah2424 on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 06:50

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That's why I'm questioning whether it is a real summons. It says summons, and it has been prepared by the debt collection law firm. The summons part says I have 20 days to serve the law firm with my answer, and a copy of the complaint is attached. Since I was not properly served (it was left on my porch in an apartment building), and there was no court date mentioned, I called the court and found that the lawsuit had not been filed. I am not sure how to provide my answer to the firm


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 10:48

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ok its just another scare tactic. You need to get debt validation. do a search on this site for a form letter of debt validation. I mean, you want to know that you actually owe the debt, before you pay it, or respond to this "summons"

somehow, i think this summons shit is garbage too... thats impersonation of a court official..


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Submitted by sswett on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 10:58

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Legally they are supposed to be hand delivered, or some other way that can be proved you recieved it.

If it's been prepared by the collection firm, then it's not a real summons. If a suit had been filed you would recieve a summons from the court, with the court's name and address and insturctions on how to proceed.


lrhall41

Submitted by goudah2424 on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 11:40

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You are still in the position to work out payment arrangements with the collection agency. Get the debt validated from them to make sure that they are authorized for collecting your debt. You will also make sure that they can get a legal case against you on not receiving the money. At this point, it might be a fake attempt and you need to confirm about their collection practice.


lrhall41

Submitted by Bridget on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 11:53

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Thanks, everyone. I was able to get some good information pertinent to my state. Even though I was not properly served, the debt collection law firm has the right to serve me with a "summons" and complaint before filing the lawsuit with the court. I am still required to serve my "answer" and notice of appearance to the law firm, although I cannot yet file with the court. Once this is done, I will receive a notice of court hearing if and when it is filed. If I do not respond, they can get a default judgement against me without ever notifying me of a court date. I was able to get the pertinent forms and will be sending my response quickly. Since I can't make a large sum payment, I would rather negotiate a payment plan in court than to try to deal with the debt collection law firm myself (a shady outfit, in my opinion)and try to convince them not to file.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 12:06

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What state are you from? I got sued in December from a collection agency. still going back and forth with them on what debt validation really is. It is really getting old at this point.

I would demand debt validation before I would make any plans on paying them.

Make sure you answer in the 20 days, so that they don't win by default.


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Submitted by fedupinpa on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 12:16

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I'm in Washington State. I will be disputing the amount of the debt among other issues in my answer, and I guess I will have my day in court if they decide to file.

I think that the debt collection law firm, by leaving the "summons" on the porch, was hoping that I wouldn't notice and that they would be able to file and win a default judgement against me. I do owe the debt to the original creditor, and I don't mind making payments (this is what I tried to do previously, but they ignored my written requests), but I do not owe as much as they say I do.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 12:27

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Contact your country clerk, ask whether a claim has been filed. If the summons is fake, you can sue them, as well as turn them in to the FTC and state AG.

I have heard of strange process serving. Sometime being used in court in defense as well. You are right to dispute the amount. These amounts are always terribly inflated.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 04/02/2007 - 19:46

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Fedupinpa,
what do you mean when you say going back and forth with CA about what debt validation is? What was their first response when you asked for debt validation?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 04/12/2007 - 14:13

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first response was a copy of the bill and a letter stating they owned it.

second response was a copy of the bill and a notarized affidavit that they owned the bill.

I have requested proper debt validation for the third time, I want a copy of the contract between the ca and the original creditor showing they legally own the bill they are trying to collect.

why do you ask?


lrhall41

Submitted by fedupinpa on Thu, 04/12/2007 - 17:37

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So I sent my answer and notice of appearance to the law firm and have heard nothing back from them. The case against me was not and has not been filed. Last week, I started getting calls from a new CA about this same debt. I'm having trouble understanding why a law firm would prepare a lawsuit and then instead of filing, transfer the debt to another agency.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 13:34

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O.K., this is crazy. After being brought to the brink of a lawsuit by a debt collection law firm over said debt, a new collection agency has started back at square one. 1 week of phone calls, and today a bill for the amount in full in the mail. The new collector is NCO Financial Services. I owe the debt, no doubt, but don't have the money to pay in full or make a substantial payment. What would be the best recourse for me at this juncture?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 17:32

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Sounds like you need to do letters and keep them on your desk top and just keep changing the ca address and contact information. LOL. That is great that they are not taking you to court. I still haven't heard anything on my third request for debt validation. I have been busy with other things. It has been 5 months, I really need to look into filing a motion to vacate this motion. I am going to call the courthouse this week sometime to find out how long it has to linger before I can do this. Hate having this over my head.


lrhall41

Submitted by fedupinpa on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 16:59

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