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Ready to settle with CA

Date: Mon, 02/05/2007 - 16:21

Submitted by ursusmaritimus
on Mon, 02/05/2007 - 16:21

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After a year of making payments, I am ready to make a offer to pay a settlement amount. I will be speaking with the CA representative in the next few days, and my questions are:
1) If I counteroffer an amount to their amount (say $1500 vs $1800 or $2000) on a $2900 debt) {or what realistic amount would a CA expect on this amount} will I have an advantage to get them to accept a lesser amount if I tell them I will submit the payment in full. In the past they have stipulated a settlement amount must be paid in 90 days (3 payments).
2) Additionally, I have read that I need to get them to sign the settlement or offer. What if they bauk and say the offer is off the table unless agreed to at the time of contact.
3) How do I get them to agree to the settlement is "paid in full" and settles the outstanding debt. The initial creditor "charged off" the debt about 3 and a half years ago. (I have also been charged interest - which I would like to investigate whether this was fair practice).
Any feedback would be appreciated.


When negotiating you can insist on certain terms. One of those terms should be that the amount paid will satisfy the entire debt and that the remainder will not be reported to the IRS as a chargeoff. (this could have tax consequences for you) Draw up the agreement and get a fax number where you can send it. Insist that it be signed and returned to you before you make a payment. Because you are not sure about some of the chargs, you should also have a dispute on record showing that you are not in agreement with the full balance due. Good luck.


lrhall41

Submitted by texaslawyer on Mon, 02/05/2007 - 17:29

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I had a conversation with CA regarding "settling" my account. They were insistent that they fax me the agreement, stating that they can not sign anything. The fax would serve to outline the "settled" amount. After receiving the money order, they would send me a confirmation of receiving the monies, and then the original creditor would follow with a letter stating that the account had been paid and state that the activity would be reported to the three credit bureaus. I asked for letter in lieu of the initial fax. The CA said that since I was going to submit payment in the form of a money order, then a fax was the means of communication. If I was going to authorize them to auto debit my banking, then they would send a letter stating that on XX date the account would be debited etc.
I thought I would have better control of insisting on the terms (letter requesting signature on agreed terms, etc.).
Does this sound legit?


lrhall41

Submitted by ursusmaritimus on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 09:12

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It is alright if they fax you the agreement if it contains the correct terms and is on their letterhead. Whether you pay by money order or check does not control how they can communicate with you. You can hold out for a letter listing the terms of the agreement even if you pay by money order.

You will see many posts on here advising that you do not pay by check. I have personally seen cases where someone paying by check had it processed electronically for more than the amount written. I have also seen cases where months later the CA runs another electronic transfer for more money. Giving them a personal check gives them access to your account number and routing number. Always protect yourself.


lrhall41

Submitted by texaslawyer on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 12:22

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Thank you for your advice. I am in possession of the CA's fax. The verbage states "Settled in Full." I have two weeks to make the payment. Does it even matter at this juncture to fire off a letter requesting signature of the terms covered in the telephone conversation. Does the receipt of the fax serve as a binding agreement - that is does it take precedent over a letter I send stipulatiing that I am requesting a signature to the terms. On the fax it simply states that unless the money is received by the due date, the entire balance is due.

I'm so close to closing these chapter, yet I don't want to be missing some step that will prevent some problem in the future.

Your advice....


lrhall41

Submitted by ursusmaritimus on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 14:42

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The only reason it would be reported to the IRS is if you "saved" more than 600 dollars in the settlement.

Settlement letters are computer generated. Sometimes they will have a signature affixed to them sometimes they won't. You can choose to accept or not accept the offer. If you choose to not accept the terms then they have the right to no issue you another offer and continue to collect the full balance.


lrhall41

Submitted by FYI on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 18:29

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