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Reasons behind not receiving the economic stimulus payment schedules

Submitted by unclewulf on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 17:56
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Here's some more good stuff from everybody's favorite bureaucrats, the Infernal Revenue Sadists. Shamelessly cut/pasted from the IRS Newswire email newsletter.

[quote]IRS Announces Economic Stimulus Payment Schedules, Provides Online Payment Calculator

WASHINGTON , The Internal Revenue Service announced today that it will begin sending more than 130 million economic stimulus payments starting May 2. The initial round of weekly payments will be completed by early July.

The IRS also announced the availability of a new online calculator on IRS.gov to help people determine the amount of their stimulus payments.

Stimulus payments will be made by direct deposit to people who choose to receive their 2007 income tax refunds through direct deposit. All others will receive their economic stimulus payments in the form of a paper check.

“To receive an economic stimulus payment, people just need to file their tax returns as they usually do, said IRS Acting Commissioner Linda E. Stiff. “The payments will be automatic for the vast majority of taxpayers. Some lower-income workers and recipients of certain Social Security and veterans benefits who don't normally need to file a tax return will need to do so in order to receive a stimulus payment. IRS.gov has all the information people need to help them obtain a stimulus payment.

Stimulus payments will be sent out in the order of the last two digits of the Social Security number used on the tax return.

Because the IRS will use the Social Security number to determine when checks are mailed, taxpayers may receive their checks at different times than their neighbors or other family members. On a jointly filed return, the first Social Security number listed will determine the mail-out time.

The IRS expects to make about 34 million payments within the first three weeks after the payment schedule begins May 2. With more than 130 million households expected to receive stimulus payments, more than 25 percent of the payments will be made in the first three weeks.

Taxpayers who choose direct deposit on their federal income tax returns can expect to receive their economic stimulus payments between May 2 and May 16 provided their returns were received and processed by April 15, 2008. For taxpayers who did not choose direct deposit on their tax return but whose returns were processed by April 15, the paper checks will be in the mail starting May 16, with the initial mailings completed by around July 11.

The IRS is also announcing today the availability of an on-line calculator on IRS.gov to help taxpayers determine if they are eligible to receive an economic stimulus payment and if they are, how much they can expect. Anyone who has prepared a 2007 income tax return can use the calculator. It will ask taxpayers a series of questions, so they should have their 2007 tax returns handy. After answering the questions, the calculator will provide the projected dollar value of the payment.

Below are the schedules for economic stimulus payments related to tax returns processed by April 15, 2008.


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A small percentage of tax returns will require additional time to process and to compute a stimulus payment amount. For these returns, stimulus payments may not be issued in accordance with the schedule above, even if the tax return was processed by April 15.

All or part of an economic stimulus payment may be applied to back taxes or certain other debts of the taxpayer, such as delinquent child support and student loans. In such cases, the IRS will send a letter to the taxpayer explaining the offset.

To accommodate people whose tax returns are processed after April 15, the IRS will continue sending weekly payments. People who file tax returns after April 15 and receive a refund can expect to receive their economic stimulus payments in about two weeks after receiving their tax refunds, but not before the date they would have received their payment if the return had been processed by April 15. To ensure taxpayers receive their stimulus payment this year, they must file a tax return by Oct. 15.

Two bureaus of the Treasury Department are involved in making the payments. The IRS will calculate the amount of each economic stimulus payment based on the tax year 2007 income tax returns it receives. The IRS will then forward the information to the Financial Management Service (FMS), which is the bureau of the Treasury Department that makes federal payments such as Social Security benefits, federal income tax refunds and, now, economic stimulus payments.

The IRS reminds taxpayers that they can get their stimulus payments faster by using direct deposit when they file their tax return.

In addition, the IRS urges taxpayers to file electronically. For people who normally don't need to file a tax return, the IRS and Free File Alliance have a special program set up to allow for free electronic filing.[/quote]


I got a letter in the mail over the weekend from the IRS about this. It also states that if you can be claimed as a dependant on someone elses taxes you will not get a check. That sucks for my daughter. We can claim her and she made pretty good money (for a student) and she doesn't get anything. Plus we don't get the child tax credit for her (this will be the 2nd year) :x So we don't even get extra money for her even though we pay for all of her living expenses and she just blows all her money :x


Submitted by puddlejmpr on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 18:21

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'Wulf'...maybe you can help me with this one. My ex and I 'split' the refund, for my son, this year. When I filed taxes, I claimed the Child Exemptions, for my son. When my ex filed, he filed for the EIC, for my son. All of this was legal, of course. So.....tell me, please, how does the rebate, for my SON, work when his dad and I 'split' the refund? Thanks.


Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 03:38

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Hi Sdchargers -

Lemme say that I'm not an accountant or an attorney of any kind, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once... That being said, may I assume that you file as head of household or similar filing status?

On your 2007 Form 1040A... Did you enter your son's SSN on line 6c, column 2? If so, I believe the payment for your son will be coming to you. I don't think the EIC enters into the equation for stimulus payments.

Hit the link in my sig for stimulus info from the IRS. The official payment calculator is linked there. Get a copy of your return handy, and run through it. Only takes about 5 minutes. That should answer your question a bit more conclusively. Let me know what you come up with, please.

Stimulating, ain't it?....


Submitted by unclewulf on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 03:54

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WULF...you're funny!! Anyway..yes, I filed "Head of Household." I was talking to a friend of mine ( who works at HRBlock) and she said since I filed for 'Custodial Parent' and my ex filed 'Non-Custodial', I would get it. Wow!! This ENTIRE issue, with the Rebate is NOT "stimulating" to me...it's driving me bananas!!LOL


Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 18:18

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Hey! I never said waiting would be fun. I just inquired if you felt 'stimulated'.

[quote=sdchargers_63]Wow!! This ENTIRE issue, with the Rebate is NOT "stimulating" to me...it's driving me bananas!![/quote]

Looks like the answer is yes, hmm?


Submitted by unclewulf on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 18:27

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Okey dokey!! Another question, WULF (I'm FULL of them..LOL) When I recieved my refund, I got it on the HRBlock Debit card. Know..when I recieved my Reabate, will it be by check or Direct Deposit? Whatcha think?


Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 19:45

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An H&R Block debit card?!?! WTF is that, over? Was this a refund anticipation loan [pdl in pretty clothing]?

If that's the case, I'd guess you'll get paper. Look at your 2007 1040A, lines 44b/c/d. Is your banking info on those lines? If not, how would you get it direct deposited?


Submitted by unclewulf on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 20:07

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if you filed your 2007 return and had it direct deposited but you do not want your rebate direct deposited but mailed what do you do.


Submitted by on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 07:57

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Puddlejmpr
I just saw your post and we are in the same spot. Even thought my son didn????????t make much money last year (rebate of $7) I filed a return for him. He was so disappointed when he found out that he does not qualify because I claimed him. We both lose out. He is so careful to save his money but he was looking forward to this check you he could buy something for himself. I may give him part of ours.


Submitted by mommontoya on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 08:58

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if you filed your 2007 return and had it direct deposited but you do not want your rebate direct deposited but mailed what do you do.


Evenin' Lois! Welcome to the community.

Here's some info I just found on irs.gov that may help you. There's lotsmore. The link is in my signature.

[quote]Q. If I use Direct Deposit for my tax return refund and my bank account information later changes, what will happen when my Stimulus Payment goes out?

A. Typically, the Direct Deposit will be rejected. After the IRS receives a rejection notice, the payment will be converted to a paper check and mailed to you.

Q. Is there something I can do to prevent my Stimulus Payment from being automatically deposited into the account that I identified for the Direct Deposit of my regular refund?

A. Generally, if you designated Direct Deposit on a tax return, then the Stimulus Payment will go to the account number you designated. If the account number is no longer active, the IRS will send you a paper check. Under some circumstances you can prevent the payment from being automatically deposited.

If your regular refund has been deposited into your account via Direct Deposit and you contact the IRS before the week of April 13, the account information can be blocked to avoid the use of Direct Deposit for your Stimulus Payment. This will result in the issuance of a paper check that will be mailed to you.

However, if you contact the IRS on or after the week of April 13, the IRS will not have enough time to stop the Direct Deposit. In this situation, if you do not want your Stimulus Payment to go to the account listed on your tax return, you should contact your financial institution to discuss possible options. Finally, if the account number is no longer active, the IRS will send you a paper check. [Updated 4/4/08][/quote]

I hope this helps you. Holler if there's anything else you need.


Submitted by unclewulf on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 16:35

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we were just told about the stimulis payment not going into our h and r block master card (emerald card), so does that mean our checks will be comming in later than expected, direct deposit may 9th, paper check june 20th. so will it be around may or the june date, does anyone know for sure?


Submitted by on Thu, 05/01/2008 - 04:23

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I disagree with mom
if you claimed your son on your tax return you would get more money on your stimulus check ..your son doesn't qualify because you yourself are getting the extra MONEY for claiming him..you should give it to him if he deserves it..but why should anyone think they should receive money for claiming child and then child should receive money too?
My eldest is 21....husband and I didn't claim him..we get $1200..he gets $300 free money ..very simple..if you got more $ because of son on tax return I think give it to your son now..you got it because you claimed him before he filed papers for stimulus .. and he should have legally gotten it..of course if you claimed him first he isn't going to get it!!!! come on mom! wake up please! take 1200 that you and hubby get and give the rest to him that gov gave for free..it is only right!


Submitted by on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 00:14

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When I called H&R Block they stated I would receive it on the card I get my paychecks from my job put there but checking further I found out if you got a RAL you will get a paper its a matter of waiting and see. This is very frustrating. :shock:


Submitted by on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 09:14

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I just checked with hr block. if you recieved your refund with the hr block debit card you will get a paper check.


Submitted by on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 08:12

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I was wondering why i have not got myu stimulis payment yety when we direct deposited oyr taxes and by the end of the last two digits of the ss# i am not very happy. :cry:


Submitted by on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 12:10

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For everyone out there if you used TurboTax you will not get direct deposit. Check out their website for more information. If you did use and are depended on this money showing up I'm sure you will be as pissed as I am. I will not use their system again as they did not safegaurd their customers and inform us sooner of the problems with getting our refunds. They know well in advance and did nothing.


Submitted by on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 15:10

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Vicki -

It is not correct to blame TurboTax - it's not TurboTax's fault.

The fact is that if you used ANY online service to do your own taxes (not just TurboTax) and you received a "RAPID REFUND" or had the fees for using the online service taken out of your refund, instead of paying for them with a credit or debit card, THAT is the reason you are not receiving your stimulus payment via direct deposit, but by check.

If you used TurboTax (or any other online service) to do your taxes, and you paid the fees for using the program by credit or debit card, and you had your tax refund direct deposited, you will still get your stimulus payment by direct deposit - it's as simple as that.

If you choose not to use TurboTax again because of this issue, you are not punishing the true culprit here. If you want to blame anyone, blame the IRS for not making this information public a lot sooner than they did (last week).


Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 06:11

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mY SOCIAL ENDS IN THE 21-75 RANGE WHEN WILL i recieve my refund?


Submitted by on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 13:18

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Barbara -

If you filed your taxes and did not have any fees taken out of your refund for using an online tax service (like TurboTax or TaxCut), and you did not receive a Refund Anticipation Loan (like H&R Block's Rapid Refund), AND you had your federal tax refund sent to you by direct deposit, then you should have received your stimulus payment by direct deposit this week.

Also, if you owe any back taxes or any money to the IRS for any reason, your stimulus payment may be used to pay that and you won't receive it.

However....

There are many factors that can stop or delay your stimulus payment. If you have not received it by Monday, you may want to call the IRS and see what's up.


Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 14:16

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Does anyone know

1. If you owe will they take it from your stimulus and you would get the balance right? I have been searching for this answer and can not find it?

2. Will owing hold it up? or will it come as scheduled?

3. Seems things are running a week ahead of time, does anyone else notice this. My last two is 25, so according to the schedule my paper check should come out before 5/30, however, my brother is 11 and was supposed to be by 5/23 and it shows his will be sent on 5/14 which is a week a head of schedule.

any help would be great, thanks in advance?????


Submitted by erb1955 on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 18:34

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Here is the link to "where is my stimulus payment":

https://sa2.www4.irs.gov/irfof/IRServlet?app=IRACTC

Please keep in mind, however, there are various reasons why people aren't receiving the payments on time:

-if you filed your taxes using an online service, like TurboTax, and you either had the fees for the service taken out of your refund OR you requested a Refund Anticipation Loan (RAL), you will not receive your stimulus payment by direct deposit - you will receive a check, and it will be mailed according to the schedule posted here:

http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=180250,00.html

-If you filed your taxes on or after April 15, your stimulus payment will not be mailed according to the schedule posted at irs.gov - it will be mailed 6-8 weeks after the time your return was accepted by the IRS.

Here's the answers I found for your question about owing taxes possibly holding up your stimulus payment:

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Q. I received my stimulus payment, but it was less than what my friends and neighbors received. Why?

A. Your economic stimulus payment will be based on information provided on your 2007 income tax return.

Many, but not all, taxpayers qualify for the maximum basic payment of $600 for singles or $1,200 for married couples. Many parents are also receiving an additional $300 for each qualifying child, born after Dec. 31, 1990.

Your payment may be less than the maximum for one or more of the following reasons:

You are single and your net income tax liability is less than $600. If you file Form 1040 net income tax liability is the amount shown on Line 57, plus the amount on Line 52.
You are married and your net income tax liability is less than $1,200.
You are single and your adjusted gross income (AGI) is more than $75,000. On Form 1040, AGI is the amount on Line 37.
You are married filing a joint return and your AGI is more than $150,000.
You owe back taxes.
You have non-tax federal debts such as unpaid student loans or child-support obligations.
Around the same time you receive your payment, you will receive a notice from the IRS explaining how your payment was figured. It is important to keep this notice as a record of your economic stimulus payment. In addition, you????????ll get a separate notice if you owe back taxes or non-tax debts.


[quote]Q. I'm eligible for a payment but I still owe federal income tax from a prior year. Will my payment be reduced?

A. Yes. For this purpose, the stimulus payment is treated like any other tax refund. This means that part or all of your payment can be used to pay past-due federal or state income taxes or non-tax federal debt such as student loans and child support.

Q. How will I be notified if my stimulus payment was used to offset an outstanding debt?

A. If this occurs, you will receive a letter explaining how the stimulus payment was applied. [New 4/11/08]
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Based on those answers from the IRS, I'd say even if you owe money to the IRS, if the amount you owe is less than the stimulus payment amount, you will receive your check according to the schedule - it will just be for a lesser amount - and you should recieve a letter either just before or just after you receive your check to tell you how your stimulus payment was figured and why it was reduced.


Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 17:24

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erb - like I mentioned in my post:

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Based on those answers from the IRS, I'd say even if you owe money to the IRS, if the amount you owe is less than the stimulus payment amount, you will receive your check according to the schedule - it will just be for a lesser amount - and you should recieve a letter either just before or just after you receive your check to tell you how your stimulus payment was figured and why it was reduced.


I honestly don't think owing money is going to hold up your check - but if you owe more than the stimulus payment, they will just keep the whole check and you won't get it.

If you are uncertain about it, I would recommend calling the IRS and talking to them about it. And I definitely wouldn't recommend counting on that money to come when they say it will! Unfortunately, there's a lot of confusion going on over this stimulus payment thing.


Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 17:36

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I owe about $400 and our total stimulus is supposed to be $1500, I have a growling sewer system that needs work and could use it to to catch up on a few small bills. Hopefully it will be on schedule.

God, I am just so tired of working everyday and still being broke, LOL. It is so tiring.


Submitted by erb1955 on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 18:49

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Erb, I don't think owing the IRS will hold up your check. Since you owe much less then what your check is for I would think you would still get what difference according to the schedule. Have you tried checking the irs.gov's website at the where's my stimulus link? It will generally update about a week before it's scheduled to be sent. Mine was actually scheduled for direct deposit tomorrow but the website wouldn't give me any information until Monday May 12th and I actually received my payment today. So they seem to be running ahead at times and other times they're pretty close to the schedule.


Johnita


Submitted by johnita on Thu, 05/15/2008 - 05:40

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Ok
Now I a little mad. Because I claimed my 18year old on my taxes he does not qualify for the stimulus payment. On top of that, because he is 18 I did not get a child credit on my taxes for 2007 and because he is 18 I do not get the 300 stimulus for him. This does not seem fair.


Submitted by on Thu, 05/15/2008 - 06:37

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According to your schedule I was to get mine on the 16th, it is now the 22nd and I still have not recieved it. This money is much needed in my household due to the fact that my x has not paid me one dime of court ordered maintance in 9 weeks. The jusge has another 2 weeks to make his decision before the LAZY JUDGE LAW goes into affect. I'm totally disabled and need this money desperatly. I need help desperately and it seems no one cares. I would appreciate this check because I'm on 7 differant meds. and NO healt insurance to pay for them. If you could please check on this for me I would appreciate and I thank you for your time in advance.

Personal information removed for your safety - Uncle Wulf


Submitted by on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 22:32

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Mornin' KiAyn, and welcome to the community.

You can check on the status of your stimulus payment yourself through the IRS website. If you have additional questions about the status of your payment that the IRSW site can't answer, you should contact the IRS directly. We are a community of consumer advocates, we have no stroke with the IRS.


Submitted by unclewulf on Sat, 05/24/2008 - 04:44

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if protected by chapter 13 proceedings why can the IRS still take money from your checkes and your stimulus check


Submitted by on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 10:25

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Unless your tax debt meets certain criteria, it can't be discharged in a BK, so the IRS wouldn't have to consider that in their actions regarding your stimulus check.

In regards to your paychecks, those taxes are being paid for the current year, and current year taxes are not dischargeable in a BK.


Submitted by alias1958 on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:03

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My dependent child lives with me. I can't check 6a or b What do I put?


Submitted by on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 13:08

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ME AND MY HUSBAND RECEIVED OUR STIMULUS PAYMENT VERY LATE(OCTOBER 2008) BECAUSE I DID A MISTAKE AND I PUT ANYTHING WRONG AND BECAUSE IT WAS WRONG,MY HUSBAND CALL
IRS AND FIX EVERYTHING FOR ME.
I FEEL VERY SORRY BECAUSE MY ENGLISH IS BAD AND MY HUSBAND SPEAKS AND WRITE VERY WELL ENGLISH BUT
HE BECAME BLIND AND I REALLY TRY TO HELP HIM BECAUSE I LOVE VERY MUCH MY DEAREST HUSBAND.
I GAVE ALL STIMULLUS PAYMENT(600.00) TO MY DEAREST
HUSBAND FOR PAY HIS CREDIT CARD BILLS.
I THINK HE REALLY DESERVE THE STIMULUS CHECK.
ANY WAY IF YOU DID A MISTAKE LIKE ME PLEASE CALL IRS
TO FIX IT.


Submitted by tsacgiv on Wed, 11/05/2008 - 12:03

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i can't delete the above,but i sense a troll taking a shot at tania.if anyone has a different take i would love to hear it.


Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 11/21/2008 - 08:38

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how to get a copy of my stimulus check for my taxes because i have lost the attachment on my check from 2008


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