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SSI and Child Support --No Garnishment in some cases

Submitted by Bossy4455 on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 08:32
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Maybe everyone else knows this, but I didn't. I always thought that the Government could garnish disability for child support, but I found out different yesterday.

My daughter-in-law and I went to the Child Enforcement Agency yesterday to see why they had not garnished her exs' disability that he just received-along with alot of back pay. He is about $10,000, or more behind.

We were told she was out of luck on any type of garnishment, assignment, etc. It seems if you draw SSI(which is different than SS), it cannot be garnished. The reason being, that this person didn't work for some time, have enough work credits, etc, so since they dont' make much monthly with their SSI check, they cannot be touched. The SSDI can be garnished.

This jerk quit work years back to evade the child support and found a doctor and told him he was ADHD and Bi-Polar, anyway he got it and is due abot 9,000 more on back pay.

I thought they were wrong, so I went straight to an attorneys office and he confirmed it.

Just thought I would pass this along for those of us that didn't know..karen


Thanx for the info, I have the same senario going on. What state are you checking in and what year did you check on this? Perhaps we should get together and get some more laws changed on these deadbeats to give HOPE to the future!


Submitted by on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 18:07

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I am in the same boat. My ex got on SSI for the same reason and I have not been able to get one dime. He sits at home while I work and go to school to support our son. I have been so disappointed with the government. To me, when SSI approved him and took him in they should also absorb the child support. The judgement was already in place. He owes this just like he owes for his electric bill.


Submitted by on Thu, 04/02/2009 - 13:16

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You don't just quit work and get SSI - it takes a permanent and total disability and a couple of years of fighting with the Social Security Administration to get SSI.

If he's getting SSI, believe me, he can barely support himself, unless you know about some millions of dollars he is hiding somewhere.


Submitted by on Thu, 04/02/2009 - 17:17

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SSI is determined by how much money you made before you went on disablity. For some that had high paying jobs they can get a decent amount. Not near what they were making when they worked though. It is about half.

My mom is on SSI and she only gets $750 a month. Try living on that.

Some of the deadbeats get on SSI and then work under the table for good money though and still don't support their children.


Submitted by nohiogal on Fri, 04/03/2009 - 03:28

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I may have stated some things wrong here. I didn't mean that his monthly check should, would, go to pay for his kids, I was talking about his back pay from when he applied.

They were suppossed to get a one time settlement from his back pay for the kids, and then never receive anythingthing else.

This guy smokes dope, lives with his parents and has been arrested for burglary, guess he isn't hurting too bad, not like his kids.

My oldest son is disabled and is on SSDI, so i know how small they get paid.

Oh, BTW--my son got on the first time that I applied for him, which they told me was pretty uncommon.


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Fri, 04/03/2009 - 08:15

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I agree. The large sum at the beginning should go towards back support that is owed.

My mom was accepted the first time as well but that was over ten years ago now.

A guy at work had his wife apply and it took three years later and a lawyer to get her on it. It was unbelievable as she had many medical issues and mental problems.

My ex-husband applied twice and was denied twice. He died several months after the last denial :(


Submitted by nohiogal on Sat, 04/04/2009 - 04:19

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Sorry to hear that. Our friend took almost two and a half years and an attorney getting on, then I know someone else who got on the first time.

A friend of ours did disability claims years ago, before he died, and he said it is much easier to get on a mental or emotional disability than a physical one.

It took my sister-in-law about a year to get on, and she was paralyzed on her left side from a stroke!


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 07:33

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My daughter's father is 40 years old and recieve ssi he won't do anything for my 10 month old daughter. He can buy brand new cars but won't support his daughter. I have to work and take care of my daughter alone. IF they can make them they should be made to take care of them just like i have to do. I have no love.


Submitted by on Wed, 04/22/2009 - 12:03

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I live in the state of Missouri I was wondering if my childrens fathers SSID can be garnished for his back child support that he owes me we have even been to court they told him to pay $100.00 a month but he hasn't done right yet. He will pay only when they lock him up.


Submitted by on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 12:20

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i am trying to find out if the courts can lock up my boyfriend for not paying his support ?? this is why..... he filed for SSI about a year ago due to mental issues he is dealing with with a shrink at the moment he has had problems all is life but anyways while he is waiting for his appeal he is not paying support which was only filed for 6 months ago and his son is now 12 it was filed by the state and not the mother and if and when he does get his SSI he will pay what support he is supposed to can anyone answer this for me ?? we don't have the money for a lawyer

lost in Illinois
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Submitted by on Tue, 05/05/2009 - 20:09

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i am trying to find out if the courts can lock up my boyfriend for not paying his support ?? this is why..... he filed for SSI about a year ago due to mental issues he is dealing with with a shrink at the moment he has had problems all is life but anyways while he is waiting for his appeal he is not paying support which was only filed for 6 months ago and his son is now 12 it was filed by the state and not the mother and if and when he does get his SSI he will pay what support he is supposed to can anyone answer this for me ?? we don't have the money for a lawyer

lost in Illinois
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Submitted by on Tue, 05/05/2009 - 20:10

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I have a 14 year old by a guy who gets SSI, in wisconsin. When she was born, I went to court and was told, as long as he is getting SSI, he will not have to pay child support. he even got a lump sum of $30,000 that he did not have to contribute.

Althought it's 14 years later, I hope that Wisconsin, or states find a way to change this. I know other men in Wisconsin that have 5 kids or more, and jokingly talk about getting SSI to avoid payment.

I have been keeping my eyes open for law changes. I know they don't get a lot, but that's not an excuse for not taking care of children you bring in the world.

I am hoping they start reducing their money when they have children, so they can at least think about is having children worth reducing their little $600 check.

He couldnt afford to take care of her if he wanted to, but if I couldnt take care of my child, guess what child social services would do? Take her..

The system is all screwed up, but I am glad to know that I am not alone.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/12/2009 - 17:53

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I know that feeling. When my ex was not paying I had to do it all and it made me so upset. I mean if I didn't do it who would?

I had to keep the roof over their heads, clothes on their backs and food in their mouths.

I never looked at it as a burden, they are my children, but at the same time it is not fair when you have to do it alone.


Submitted by nohiogal on Wed, 05/13/2009 - 03:01

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My soon to be ex husband has recieved SSI since he was a kid. Of course, everyone in his family lives off the system too. He hardly worked the entire time that we were married and doesn't work now either. Since he left my home, he lives off of people. Staying a couple night at this persons house and a couple nights at that persons house. So he has no bills. He sits back and collects his SSI (which he shouldn't even get anyway because he is perfectly capable of working) says that he can't afford to pay me child support but is currently in Carolina with his girlfriend (who also doesn't work) taking a "vacation" (from what, I don't know) basically on my daughter's money. I was going to ask the judge at finally hearing to garnish his SSI. Now that I am researching it and finding out that SSI cannot be garnished for some stupid reason, I am literally sick to my stomach.


Submitted by on Wed, 05/13/2009 - 22:03

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I am sorry to hear that. In our situation, the ex can take a baseball bat to his neighbors,steal, do drugs,buy his drug buddy a car--but can't even pay something from his back pay to help his kids. He also lives with his parents, who know he smokes dope in their house--something is wrong with this system!


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Thu, 05/14/2009 - 08:27

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Yeah you could, just have to know exactly when he is sitting there doing it. He got some more back pay and now he has taken his mom and step dad on a vacation to CAlifornia :shock: he still hasn't paid the thousand bucks that he said he would out of his back pay--he can be held in contempt, but my daughter-in-law was told she has to come up with the money to file. She was told she gets his stimulous check, but it will be another 90 days to process it--it all stinks!


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 08:55

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MY EX HUSBAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LOSER. HAS MOVED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS. FILED FOR SSI. OWES HIS CHILDREN
$47000 IN BACK CHILD SUPPORT. DO I HAVE ANY RECOURSE


Submitted by on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 18:24

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bossy I am sorry! that is so terrible especially since you have a background job in substance abuse-to find it happening to you and your own family now-what you counseled people on a daily basis about-I know you can take your education and knowledge and apply it to this situation where you will prevail! good luck girl!


Submitted by on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 23:05

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Thanks guest- but don't think my education is going to help him get off drugs-he sure isn't going to come to me to get help! People like him ,who don't take care of their children, will pay for it in the long run. As their childern get older,they will understand who takes care of them and who doesn't, and he will end up loosing in the end.

To the other guest--contact your case worker about your case. If he is getting SSI and not SSDI, you cannot get help from him. The only thing you can probably get is his stimulous check, but htat has to be done through the Child Support division--chcek w/ your worker to make sure though,it may vary where you live..good luck..karen


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 07:37

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If these men are able to lay in bed and make a child, then they should be able to support one! I say make them go to work on the side, perhaps in a sheltered work shop and send the money to the kids. The state should check on them and make sure they are really severely disabled. If they are able to work at all they should be forced to pay.


Submitted by on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 13:32

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I agree but the saddest part is that the women who lay in bed with these losers continue to have more and more children from the same loser---they may even be drug abusers too but the minute the other party is called names--the drug abuse comes out---most of the time when women have children and are in a long term relationship with drug abusers they are well aware of the character of the individual they chose to procreate with and are often times in need of counseling themselves and sadly----these children are the sad sad result of these type of relationships---so many grandparents are raising these children today--this crap needs to stop! Wake up! Mothers educate your daughters...I know we do all we can---but do your best to keep them away from these losers--because they are caught up in the trap and become as bad as the men they chose to lay in bed with!!!! They all abuse the system eventually and the poor children are the ones left at risk and this is so very very sad!


Submitted by on Sat, 06/20/2009 - 22:25

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p.s. bossy--your education and experience of course can't get him off drugs but couldn't it have helped prevent your relative from being involved with this person? And all of your knowledge in this field that you should have certainly passed on to family members but it didn't CATCH ON or hit home or mean ANYTHING ---for some reason or another--after all your years of counseling drug abusers---to me is very very sad that this same thing occured in your own world! That is what I was trying to say--not that you should have kept him off drugs!


Submitted by on Sat, 06/20/2009 - 22:30

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WOW i AGREE!!! Bossy you are so smart and so looked up to here with your opinion/did your relative lie in bed over and over again with bad peoples after knowing they were bad peoples and did your relative participate in the same actions you accuse her partner of doing? If not surely she is not retarded and was fully aware if more than one child as to the actions of her mate? Can you enlighten us here or has the discussion been closed? Thanks in advance because prior to this I have really valued your opinions! :-) and I wish you the best but am questioning your post and common sense in this situation as a former drug counselor? sorry for questioning anything you have to say because I really value your opinions only question what you have posted here and realize you may have been asleep at the wheel?


Submitted by on Thu, 07/02/2009 - 22:09

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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:32 am Subject: SSI and Child Support --No Garnishment in some cases

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"Maybe everyone else knows this, but I didn't. I always thought that the Government could garnish disability for child support, but I found out different yesterday.

My daughter-in-law and I "---

op said daugther in law-----Bossy is this your son that you posted about ??????????soooooo sad


Submitted by on Sat, 07/04/2009 - 21:23

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I am not reall sure why you fiond it necessary to attack me or my family--but I won't delete your psots so it cannot be said I delete things I don't like. As far as my profession-substance abuse hits all walks of life--it would be like saying to the Preacher--why did your son/daughter get in trouble since you are a preacher?

My son married a girl he had been dating for over 3 years--she had been married almost 6 years to her husband(the one I am talking about).

I am not going to argue the point of hwether she should have been married and had kids, whether my son should have married her or whether I did-didn't raise my kid right.

I just wanted to say originally that child support cannot be garnished in alot of cases if the spouse is on SSI, like I thought--it is only on SSDI,in alot of cases.

Guest, if you want to--pm me and we can discuss my merits of being a counselor or anything else you want--let's keep this in pms, so others can use this space to get help,ok?..karen


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Mon, 07/06/2009 - 08:13

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HI I am a new guest but the above post is a freakin puzzle...bossy you stated..
My son married a girl he had been dating for over 3 years--she had been married almost 6 years to her husband(the one I am talking about).

"I am not going to argue the point of hwether she should have been married and had kids, whether my son should have married her or whether I did-didn't raise my kid right. "

I am not gonna argue this either..the topic was one you posted about the "dead head" and I think above posts tried to make reference to the person who laid in bed with this loser and had multiple children from this loser..most likely had the same bad character and same bad drug addictions as the person they had mutiple children with! Very valid point! I think that child support is indeed garnished if the spouse is not a druggie or as bad a parent as the one they are making accusations at? That is all I was trying to say...if you man up or fess up in court the truth will prevail and if you are as bad as the Evilness you make accusations at....you will fall deeper into the hole than the ones you cast the first stone at...Karen...you knew what was going on BEFORE it became a problem? And if you didn't..you weren't worth a grain of salt as a counselor in this field is what above post eluided to I thinks?


Submitted by on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 00:48

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you know what i think guest.the unwarranted attacks on bossy are gonna stop or else.btw nice grammar,and usage.you are one to talk.


Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 05:23

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The first sentence in a few of these posts talks about how these guys are such losers. And I believe them, the probably are bums. It's the making babies with losers that's got me confused. And there are are how many forms of birth control?


Submitted by on Fri, 07/17/2009 - 00:19

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i read everything here and will say;for some who recieve child support will put the money on there children but, will also say others won't not to say all here will do wrong with the money .there are people who realy need help and don't get it .i wish u all the luck ! have faith . :(


Submitted by on Tue, 07/21/2009 - 11:57

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MY BROTHER IS ON SSI AND PAYS ONLY $20.00 A MONTH FOR CHILD SUPPORT. HE TOLD THE MOTHER OF HIS DAUGHTER TO STOP THE COURT ORDER SO HE CAN PAY HER AND SHE WOULD GET MORE MONEY FOR THERE CHILD, ANY WAY'S SHE'S A GREEDY BI$$H AND SAID NO. SHE DOESN'T LET MY BROTHER SEE HIS DAUGHTER WHATSOEVER ALL SHE DOES IS GO TO THE CLUBS AND SHE'S MAD BECAUSE SHE CAN'T GET MONEY FOR HER SELF. I HATE GREEDY BI$$HESSS..... I FEEL BAD FOR THE CHILDREN THAT GETS ROBBED FROM HAVING A FATHER IN THERE LIFE, BUT I GET HAPPY WHEN DUMB BROADS GO ON DEPRESSION BECAUSE THEY CANT GET THE MONEY TO SPEND ON THERE SELF..... GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN! AND FU$K THE GREEDY HO$S.....


Submitted by on Fri, 07/24/2009 - 13:29

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I AGREE!!! THE HOAS WHO HOOKED UP WITH THE BADDIES AND HAD MULTIPLE CHILDREN WITH THEM ARE I THINK EVEN WORSE THAN THE TRASH THEY HAD THE BABIES WITH===COME ON AFTER ONE FAILURE==WHY HAVE MORE? BOSSY YOUR RELATIVE PUT HERSELF IN THIS SITUATION AND IT REALLY SUKS==BUT SCREW ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU SCREW ME TWICE SHAME ON ME--AND MORE THAN TWO KIDS? SHAME ON THE PERSON WHO ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!![samebox:55eb18ebb0="paulmergel"]you know what guest.quit attacking bossy.it go let go because i was on vacay,but no more.you add nothing to this discussion.it ends now.i mean your idiocy.[/samebox:55eb18ebb0]


Submitted by on Sun, 07/26/2009 - 01:33

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I have an eight week old son and my ex told me good luck trying to get support. He had a job but I later found out it was a cash job. He is on SSI and doesn't have to pay a dime for two kids. I love my son but I am trying to raise my son on my own and wish the laws would change.


Submitted by on Mon, 07/27/2009 - 09:33

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God bless you guest and good luck and I am sure the community will send out prayers for you :-) You should be able to prove the cash job if you know where he is working--just follow and take pics of his vehicle parked in the same place--the company who paid him cash to get out of the child support judgement would also be in big trouble!!!!


Submitted by on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:01

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God bless you guest and good luck and I am sure the community will send out prayers for you :-) You should be able to prove the cash job if you know where he is working--just follow and take pics of his vehicle parked in the same place--the company who paid him cash to get out of the child support judgement would also be in big trouble!!!!


Submitted by on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:02

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god bless you guests above but agree with posts that say enough is enough of these women who have multiple children from these losers and the state and the U.S. ends up having to bankroll their mistakes once is enough let us all move on and learn from one mistake I don't care who was on vacy someone else's brain I think was on permanant vacay if they had more than one child from this obvious drug addict loser? sorry to not be so optimistic or looking for agreement from posters america is in the trouble it is right now because it continues to support the children of SOME of the above posters who used very bad judgement in continuing to have children with these type of people and other posters above I said god bless and do pray they will receive the help they deserve :-) :-)


Submitted by on Thu, 08/13/2009 - 20:34

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SSI is federal, not state. SSI cannot be garnished for child support or any other reason. People on SSI can barely support themselves much less a child. Try supporting yourself on $700 a month.

One thing you can do is have your child signed up for SSI. If a child has a parent on SSI, the child can receive it as well, but it is up to the custodial parent to apply.


Submitted by on Tue, 09/15/2009 - 12:42

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children used to get "disabilty " and extra money for their moms if they came from "druggie homes"--did this get shut off as well? and give these welfare disabiltity moms who have NUMEROUS multiple children from same daddy or( multiple drug abusing daddies(? less money now? What happened on all this money these druggie moms get? Has it been shut down?


Submitted by on Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:32

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I live in Ohio and my ex owed me over 21k in back child support. My caseworker always told me that I would get the money back when he started to collect SS. Well he went on SSI last year and low and behold - I did start getting child support payments! I don't know about any other state, but here in Ohio your SSI and SS can be flagged if you owe anything to child support. It also helps to keep in touch with your caseworker. I haven't heard or seen this fool in over 10 years and although he has only lived 10 minutes from us - he has not made any contact with my children. They have aged out of child support now, but if you have a court order in place you can get the money due your kids. At least in Ohio.


Submitted by on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 18:27

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Guest, I am glad that you did get some money from what was owed to you. In this case, there was money owed,thousands, from years ago, that was not paid. When he went on SSI,there was a court order, he did go to court, and taht is where we learned that SSI cannot be garnished. Even the thousands he got from back pay on disability cannot,so maybe it differs from state to state.


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Wed, 09/30/2009 - 08:43

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children used to get "disabilty " and extra money for their moms if they came from "druggie homes"--did this get shut off as well? and give these welfare disabiltity moms who have NUMEROUS multiple children from same daddy or( multiple drug abusing daddies(? less money now? What happened on all this money these druggie moms get? Has it been shut down?

above post I agrees with--I have a small retail store and had many drug addicted "welfare moms" who used to get extra "disabiltiy $ for their kids if they were drug addicts and had numerous children from drug addicts--but the "bad mommies" I have talked to who used to just have more and more kids--got this "extra" money shut down about 3 years ago--damn! they aren't having more kids to get more money and they aren't getting more money cuz their kids aren't disabled cuz they had kids when they were on drugs with people who were on drugs? dadgum? Governemt needs to give them more money so these druggies will have more kids and we tax-payers can support them?

thanks for that,now go preach somewhere else okay thanks for yuour comment Paul ! :-)---BUT that is the message I should keep preaching here--druggie moms should STOP!!!!! having kids with druggie dads and EXPEXCTING tax payers to pay for all of children's stay in hospitals and supporting them and picking up all the tabs until they reach 19 years of age---yezzzz I admit pauls ya gots me by tha balls heh-heh that is indeed my message here heh-hehe

well not all are what you preach.knock it off.if you want to preach with a broad brush.go to church.not here.this topic is closed.


Submitted by on Sat, 10/03/2009 - 21:28

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I was wondering if anybody in illinois knows? my ex just got approved for ssdi and ssi he gets 890 a month for ssdi and they owe him 20k in backpay will i get any of his backpay from ssi or am i only entitled to his ssdi?


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