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Mypaydayloan.com Brad Haskins threatening to sue Debtcc

Date: Mon, 02/09/2009 - 20:28
Submitted by Jason on Mon, 02/09/2009 - 20:28
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Mypaydayloan.com has sent a letter to Debt Consolidation Care through Bradley J. Haskins, ESQ. The company claims to have come across copy-righted material against Mypaydayloan.com in our forums. By copyrighted material, they mean any sort of communication between mypaydayloan.com and their customers.

Mypaydayloan.com has threatened to sue Debtcc, its principals, advertisers and even the posters themselves if the material posted against them isn't removed within 3 days.


Here's the image of the letter they sent us by mail:


Looking for your support in this matter.

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The original letter is also attached with this post.


OK, so they're telling you there is copyrighted material on this website? They're also telling you to remove it within 3 days. But they're not going to tell you where it is?

I guess someone must have said something bad about poor little mypaydayloan.com in the forums and they go their feelings hurt.

My thoughts are, if they really wanted it removed, they wouldn't have a problem with telling you where it is?

I'm curious to see how this all works out.


Submitted by FloridaRon on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 05:44

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sounds like another bottomfeeder trying to supress information to me.i'm going to be looking for updates on this.


Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 05:53

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Shazzers, I agree!

Also, I googled Haskins and found no info on him. His letterhead has a New York City address, his signature line has a Texas address and the phone # where he faxed it from has a "411" area code!

Also (again :) ) to be copyrighted, there is usually a process involved...application, fee, filings, etc. They would need to do that for every piece of communication that they claim "copyright" on! (Like they're gonna do that!) ROFLMAO!

IMO...I think this guy is blowing smoke!


Submitted by desperatelyseekingsanity on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 07:18

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LOL!

I didn't even catch that Shazzers. Copyrighted vs Confidential.

Here's the thing.

I did a search on the New York Bar's website and did not find him. I also saw, in the address section at the top of the letter, all the different area codes listed; there was one for Washington, DC; New York, NY, Miami, FL; and Stockton, CA. He also has Austin, TX listed on the last line as the location where this memo was typed.

I didn't find him in DC, New York, or CA. I couldn't get to the Florida Bar's website; it seems they are having some sort of issue. I finally found him on the TX Bar's website though.

Get this, his address is in Prague in the Czech Republic!

This is one well traveled attorney.


Submitted by FloridaRon on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 09:46

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It seems to me a legitimate attorney would know the difference between confidentiality and copyright infringement. And confidentiality would be between them and a client. Looking at this letter, one thing runs through my mind. My 10 year old son could have written it far better. The address on the first page is a Wall Street address. But on the second page, it's in Austin, Texas. The top of this fax is "To: Brad Haskins From: Brad Haskins". "The client has deposited a significant cash retainer". They're trying growl but the best they can do is mew like a little kitten. You all are doing something here. You're helping people (including me, your information has been invaluable). Information is freeing people from fear and these bullies aren't liking it.


Submitted by on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 11:02

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After reading this letter, one thought runs through my mind. My 10 year old could have done it better. First page says the address is on Wall Street. Second page says Houston, Texas. It's been faxed from Brad Haskins to Brad Haskins. The client has deposited a significant retainer? No attorney says things like this. You all are doing a good thing here. You're helping to free people from the fear these bullies are trying to instill in them. I wonder what the legal departments of Google, MSN, and Yahoo would have to say to this?


Submitted by on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 11:06

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Just a thought. If they really did get yahoo and MSN to remove links to DCC under false pretenses, and we all know (well, some of us know) that link building is vital to Search Engine Optimization . . . didn't Bradley tortiously interfere with DCC's prospective economic advantage?

Maybe there should be a lawsuit and a few subpoenas . . . but not in the direction Bradley had in mind.


Submitted by FreakyFriday on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 21:42

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uh-huh.that will cut alot of ice in a court here in the states. :roll: :roll: sounds like the illegal pdl themselves.we the consumer are bound by the foreign entities laws not ours. i see this going nowhere for them.


Submitted by paulmergel on Wed, 02/11/2009 - 05:48

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FreakyFriday Wrote:
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Just a thought. If they really did get yahoo and MSN to remove links to DCC under false pretenses, and we all know (well, some of us know) that link building is vital to Search Engine Optimization . . . didn't Bradley tortiously interfere with DCC's prospective economic advantage?

Maybe there should be a lawsuit and a few subpoenas . . . but not in the direction Bradley had in mind.


Oh yeah, gotta love the possibilities! :D


Submitted by Shazzers on Wed, 02/11/2009 - 07:27

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wow....another fraud....

Here's the thing....if this Haskins guy is not licensed to practice law in the state where this forum's owner resides, then he can basically piss up a rope. What good will it do for him to make a case in a state he isnt even licensed to practice law in? Current in TX since 2003 it looks like.....but not current anywhere else. Basically, if I were to buy into anything this guy stated, I would challenge him for proof of the copyright he claims on all communications between the company and its clients. If he can provide proof of any such claim, I would then research the legality of such a stipulation in contract law. Remember this--just because someone puts something into a contract, that doesnt make it enforceable under the law. But my first step would be to challenge for proof of the copyright he claims in the first place.

Then again, there's this whole Costa Rica issue. If you go on MPDL's website, this disclaimer appears at the bottom:

Quote:

This service does not constitute an offer or solicitation for short term payday loans in all states. This service may or may not be available in your particular state. the states this site services may change from time to time without notice. All aspects and transactions on this site, will be deemed to have taken place in our office in costa rica, regardless of where you may be viewing or accessing this site. Borrower is responsible for complying with any local statutory obligations that may exist in their state or area with respect to any transactions with mypaydayloan.com.


I want you to look for the double-speak here....

First, they claim:

Quote:
All aspects and transactions on this site, will be deemed to have taken place in our office in costa rica, regardless of where you may be viewing or accessing this site.


In the very next breath:

Quote:
Borrower is responsible for complying with any local statutory obligations that may exist in their state or area with respect to any transactions with mypaydayloan.com


Think carefully about this now....if the transaction is deemed to be just as if you walked into their office in Costa Rica, then how would there be any local or state laws that would have any effect on this? They tell you on one hand "this is just like if you came into our office in Costa Rica" to cover their butts, and then they also say "any laws where you live are your responsibility to follow, not ours", again, to cover their butts. They are trying to have it both ways and they cannot.

Simply put, a call to a US District Attorney's office should get you the proper information as to if this is even remotely legal for them to operate at all in the US. I suspect that they are not.


Submitted by skydivr7673 on Sun, 02/15/2009 - 20:16

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I got a call from Brad Haskins today on my cell phone at 2:46 PM (Chicago time) from the number 212-564-4131. He kept me on the phone for close to 20 minutes. During the call I requested him multiple times that I needed to get off the call since I was in the middle of building a server to be installed in Chicago for the east coast traffic to these forums but he kept threatening me.

I was accused of everything including hiding from him. I told him that my email address name phone number is posted on the site and even my address is here. So how can I say I am hiding from him.

He said that he will be deposing me soon. He said that his Texas bar license number was 09200500 I went to the Texas bar page and looked him up:

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Member_Directory&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=229674

He also said that he owned and ran
http://www.uslegalforms.com/ and
http://www.uslegal.com/

and apparently I did not know how to run a website and according to him I should take down all the content posted about mypaydayloan or I will have to defend myself against a multi-million dollar law suite.

Lets see how this whole thing pans out.


Submitted by Vikas on Thu, 02/26/2009 - 19:55

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Yeah. "Lets see how this whole thing pans out" does no equal "go get em."

My guess is that might be Mr. Haskins disguised as "Jane M?"

Besides which, how could "Jane M" be asking if Vikas is sure he heard that all correctly? Was "Jane M" hovering around in the room with Denney, like Casper the Friendly Ghost, listening in on the conversation?


Submitted by FloridaRon on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 01:48

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i guess next we will be able to sue because the bbb gives a f rating, or because i post i dont like cheese kraft can sue me, or to take it even futher i post on my blog how to make homemade cleaning supplies that tide, swiffer, and everyone else can sue me for taking away there business. When will it ever stop? are we not allowed to voice our opinions about anything? What about free speech? I guess they just feel like they can do whatever and expect no one do to discuss it.


Submitted by love_my_things on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 10:33

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