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Got three collections calls today, need help

Date: Wed, 01/03/2007 - 12:57

Submitted by bestideayet
on Wed, 01/03/2007 - 12:57

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OK, so I got three calls from three different places. One from Bay Area Credit (T mobile acct that I took out for my little brother, he didn't pay it). Also, one from NCO financial (PayPal account). And then one from a 000-000-0000 number that left a msg saying "this is an important message for" and hung up. Anyway, I had a question about this fiasco.

Should I just change my number? I only use it for very few people, and no one I work with or anything knows it, so it isn't like I need it for my job. What would the repercussions be if I change it? I would just let all of the places I do business with know. Would you recommend I do that? It's just VERY ANNOYING and I am done getting calls at all hours on my cell #. Please help.


Do you have a call back number of each of them? You are aware of the past debts and know that there is some connection with the collection calls being done. You will stop all the collection calls coming your way but what happens if they take the matter to the court and you end up getting summons from the court. Not trying to scare you, but I think you should take care of this issue.


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Submitted by a_neblat on Wed, 01/03/2007 - 13:10

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You can mail a letter via certified mail/return receipt requested to each collection agency that you're dealing with, and request that they cease and desist all communications to you by telephone, and that all future communications should be sent to you in writing via United States Postal Service mail.

This way, the calls to your cell phone should stop. If they don't, the collection agencies will be in violation of fdcpa regulations and you can pursue legal action.

If you'd rather change your number instead of sending the letters, do whatever you feel most comfortable with.


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Submitted by Tiffany99 on Wed, 01/03/2007 - 14:24

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Here's a tip. Deal with the calls and get them worked out. Unless you want to be called at work, have your relatives called and your neighbors if you changed your number.

It's better to take care of things before they progress into a larger fiasco.

I'd also get ahold of your brother and smack him around because your genorosity for him is going to ruin your credit if it hasn't already and tell him to pay his bill.

Depending on the age of the account a cease and decist letter could just have the account moving from one agency to the other. It's what the agency I work for does and what our client does.

But if you are completely for avoiding it I wold suggest you call your relatives and tell them to tell anyone who is looking for you to say they don't know you. Then change your number, you also might want to move and change jobs.


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Submitted by FYI on Wed, 01/03/2007 - 19:38

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Follow what FYI said. And good luck with Bay Area Credit. They SUCK!!! None of them speak English, and they are the rudest SOBs on the planet. Start nice with them, but the moment they get pissy, give it right back. Don't pay them via check by phone - demand and address and mail them payment. And demand a bill. You may have to go through a few phone calls, but don't believe any of their threats. If you yell at them enough, they finally back down and do what they are supposed to do in the first place - verify the debt.


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Submitted by jedijeff13 on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 08:58

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bestideayet - your employer information is listed on your credit report in most cases. I know mine was, even though it wasn't entirely accurate, it was still listed there. I would say that's where they'd get your employer info. However, if they call you at work and you ask them not to (advise them personal calls are not allowed at work), they have to stop, according to the fdcpa - but you may have to send the cease and desist letter to get them to stop.


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Submitted by SUEBEEHONEY70 on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 09:35

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how about paying the bill? they sound relatively small. why hurt your credit?


Yee Haw! They're playing our song. AGAIN.
(Actually, I REALLY appreciate that this post was made as a simple question without any overt negative judgement or personal slamming involved. Please take my response in a similar vein.)

I count at least 3 posts encouraging bestideayet to take care of the situation. So obviously no one is saying not to pay the bills. (And I second FYI about smacking around Little Brother. But I'd modify it to "smack him around regardless, and if he doesn't cough up, smack him harder." Smacking around being a metaphor for "explain what he's doing wrong and why you're very VERY disappointed" :wink: )

Anyway...debtguy, read through some threads regarding unprofessional collection agencies. This is what I've done, and learned that with CAs that "suck" as Jedijeff puts it, "'just' paying the bill" isn't possible without risking being ripped off--having the checking account drained because they have acct info from a check-by-phone, having ANOTHER agency collect the same debt because the payment wasn't forwarded to the original creditor, etc. etc.

All of the advice here about requesting validation and sending cease-and-desist notices? That's trying to help bestidea yet 1) stop the phone harassment, which is just plain out of line, period and 2) assemble the necessary paper trail so that he CAN "just pay the bill." But that means paying a properly validated, lawfully collected, properly credited debt. NOT being taken advantage of and bled dry by someone who insists that THEIR WAY is the ONLY way to "just pay the bill."

And to clarify, as far as I can tell, the type of Cease and Desist that's been suggested is basically "I will communicate about this debt ONLY by US Mail. DO NOT phone me at home, work, cell or via a 3rd party."
There is another type that demands no communication except for court filings, but I don't think that's what bestideayet needs to use right now.

OK, expert moderators, have I missed anything or misunderstood anything?

Best
Diva

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Submitted by funnydiva2002 on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 15:19

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Your employment information is listed on more than your credit report. Basicaly if a collection agency is looking for you there are many sources they can use to find your place of employment.

As long as you have delenquent debt your credit report can be pulled by which ever collection agency it is with.


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Submitted by FYI on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 16:58

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FYI, I was just wondering do the collection agencies use some kind of internet thing to find people? You see these sites that say find anyone etc. i have always wondered that. KYSIDE38


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Submitted by KYSIDE38 on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 18:36

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Your employment information became public information the week your employer hired you and the company HR person reported you information to your state's employment division. Also, your SSN is reported on a quarterly basis to your state taxing authority, social security and the IRS, so your information is out there practically the first day you start working.

Also, avoiding the calls is only going to accelerate the collection activity, possibly leading to a court action. Be proactive -- read the posts in this forum and ask questions about how to take care of the debts.


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Submitted by DebtFairy on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 20:10

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Debt Fairy,
Good information, but I would think that this information would be protected by state and federal privacy laws. After all, now it's illegal for anyone to use a SSN as an ID. We had to go through our database of patients at the hospital-based home health agency where I work and take out all SSN's. So I would be really interested in finding out whether SSN's and employment info would be a matter of public record.


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Submitted by kscornell on Sun, 01/07/2007 - 18:35

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Social Security numbers are not a matter of public record. And most employees personal info. such as addresses, numbers are not a matter of public record. It is protected unless you are a government employee. But if you are a government employee who is in a position where making your home address puts yourself and family members in danger then it is sealed and the public does not have access to it. But they do have access to personell files which give work history and records such as reprimands.


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Submitted by WHEREAMI? on Sun, 01/07/2007 - 19:16

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collection agencies are moving into the age of technology and they are useing the internet to find people.

If you make a website for personal use, my space, any place you list your resume on.. there are so many places that people can be found who post on the internet now. Even places like this.


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Submitted by FYI on Sun, 01/07/2007 - 20:12

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I have to agree with Steelers. You SSN number IS NOT a matter of Public Record. I work under State and Federal guidelines, and we have to protect ALL info, or you are in big trouble. Also, FYI is right about the internet. I did a post a long time ago about posting resumes online. If you do this, you are subject to id theft. Unless it is a major corp., and then you don't know if it is really them, you could be giving you info to anyone. I have always said, do not post anything personal on the web that you don't mind if the whole world knows!!..Karen


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Submitted by Bossy4455 on Mon, 01/08/2007 - 10:53

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