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Need Advice on Allied Mutual Brokers

Date: Tue, 08/23/2005 - 12:24

Submitted by anonymous
on Tue, 08/23/2005 - 12:24

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I have done an internet search that led me to Allied Mutual Brokers. I have not been contacted by these people other than an email stating that they had received my application. Due to the Prime Time Lending scam - I am WAY skeptic of anything. But I have done some checking, i.e., their ip address and whatnot. But I was wondering if before I continue if anyone else has heard and/or done business with them before? Thanks.


I rec'd. the application yesterday and the CEO is Clive M. Barker


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 04:36

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Watch out for yet another loan scam from "Silver Crest Loans." They must have gotten my information from Allied Mutual Brokers because I never applied for that, I never even heard of it. The website is directly out of Saudi Arabia and they are trying to get $1,200 and say it will come off the loan payment. I am going to play along with them and string them along, all while talkig to the secret service. I will put these bastards in jail.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 06:07

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Is Allied Mutual Brokers still operating?

I don't understand why people first don't get stuff in writing...either by fax or certified mail.

I know it sounds like such a big deal that you have to grab at it right away, but even after all the complaints...

...has anyeone ever gotten a check from this company????


lrhall41

Submitted by Teleport on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 08:44

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Hi dbenn8, Have they sent you the money for the loan since you paid the $2500?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 09:20

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I also have been approved for a loan thru this company but BBB says they are not licensed intheir state but may be in another. Just wanted to know if anyone has seen a license from them or legal doc. that shows they are legal and not a scam


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 09:21

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Since they offered me a loan also, I asked them in conversation that their website is down....they said it's because we're doing construction on it....yeah right! Especially when I contacted the party who is doing the website...they are suspended due to calls they were getting about the scam!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 09:59

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They are not legit....IT'S A SCAM!



So how does someone go abouts suing a company outside the US. I mean obviously there is a way because there are collection companies outside the US trying to collect from some of us....

They were promised a loan if they put down an insurance/deposit and didn't get what they were promised....


lrhall41

Submitted by Teleport on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 09:59

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How can you sue a company when they don't even exist?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:01

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If you acutally want to sue, you'd have to hire an attorney who would then hire an investigator. Some investigators can go deep, deep, deep....

they'll find the IP address, or find out who's answering the emails. 800#'s are super easy to get, but even then you can still track them.

Perhaps they'll find the shack they've been operating under...etc, etc.

I'm sure there is a way.

That's why I asking why hasn't anyone considered taking legal action over money they have lost?


lrhall41

Submitted by Teleport on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:06

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Im sick of these people who prey on the ones who already can't afford to lose. It sickens me, and yes I too lost 1800.00 to this scam. I was desperate and needed the help. Thought I was gonna catch a break and still got screwed. Too bad i didn't find this site until i had already borrowed and sent the money. Also from what i can tell guest and bguest are most likely in on the scam. give me a break 2 out of how many of us that fell for it. Im sure they are sitting back and getting a good laugh. Well to this i say to these scammers and any other...your time will come!!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:27

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guest i apologize for including you in my previous message. bguest is the one who "got" the loan.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:31

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I'm not in on it.....I almost gave them money because I also can use the money! SO BELIEVE ME I'M NOT IN ON IT.....


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:40

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Spoke to the phone company about a filing complaint and basically there is nothing we can do about it, it's takes legal authority for it to be disconnected....


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:57

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First of all - thank you all for speaking up here - I was sending them the "insurance money" in a total of $2500 tomorrow - now I am not. mikeyindetroit to answer your question, I did get a contract in writing - obviously it means nothing.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 11:00

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Well I'm glad that you've been reading this forum...

I'm just shocked how (even though its a scam) a company write a contract and keep your money.

Would the next level be the FBI's internet fraud division???

Surely they have to be the ones that we'd make this complaint too since the BBB can't do anything and no one else seems to know what to do?!?!?


lrhall41

Submitted by Teleport on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 11:08

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Mikeyindetroit, have you read this entire forum? Have you not seen all the information myself and others have posted? The FBI, secret service, attorney general and even the media have been notified. But, in order for these agencies to take us seriously and act now, we all have to pitch in and tell our stories to them. This company does and has everything to make them look legit. They have a fake ceo, fake contract, fake location and even a fake website that has now been suspended. People didn't fall for this because of stupidity or desperation, we simply got scammed.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 11:25

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I was thinking about reporting them - but since I did not send the money I have nothing to report - they did not rip me off (Thank Goodness) So for me it is only what I think and the FBI and others cannot go on a hunch I cannot get over that these people seem to be above the law or one step ahead of it... how can they possibly get away with this so many times? Why have they not been stopped?? Also they cannot not have any type of conscience - what they are doing to people - it makes me sick.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 11:56

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I'm having the same problem as Mandi_f. Same exact content as hers me sending $1800.00 sent to Thomas Young in Canada. I looked on the BBB website and they said that they were okay. I even checked the local BBB website for Kansas and they said they were okay. I even contacted the BBB thru email and they told me where to look for the company so I did and they seemed okay. But now after I sent them money I cant get a hold of them. Their website isnt working and now the BBB doesnt have any information on them. I've contacted the BBB because of them misleading me. I told myself that if these people werent on the BBB website I wasnt going to send them money, but I found them on there and now my money is gone along with everything else. The BBB company didnt have any information to give me as to why the company Allied Mutual Brokers was on their website and now not.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 12:26

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You guys rock!! A PI firm should hire you. A million, gazillion thank yous for saving me from making this mistake. I pray that the people who lost money will regain it. The kind act of posting all of this information will definitely gain them some good.

Even though I didn't send in money, I have contacted the Wisconsin Attorney General (where I live) and will send a complaint to the Kansas Attorney General. I am also planning on contacting TransUnion, Equifax, and Experian, per JimmyK's suggestion (I think that is who made that suggestion). It is a good idea.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 12:34

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I called the BBB today. I asked them why Allied Mutual Brokers was on their website with statements about not having any complaints in the past 3 years, but yet so many people are having problems with that company. They asked me when I went on the BBB website and I told them almost a week ago and now there isnt anything on that company on their BBB website. The BBB stated that they just resently here in the past couple of days took the Allied Mutual Brokers off of their website because they found it to be a scam. Apparently, they went to the location of their said business and no such company existed. They are currently based in Canada. I filed a complaint with the kansas BBB and they will be forwarding it to the canada BBB who will contact the authorties. Not sure if they'll be able to do anything. But, PLEASE people dont send them money. I wish I found this website earlier as I sent them money on Sept 09. As for people saying they recieved the loan I think that was a scam as well. I've also contacted the moneygram where I sent the money too and they said that they've recieved many phone calls about that company as well but they cant refund the money because it has already been picked up. I dont think I will see that $1800 again and for a single parent of 2 childrens one of which has been ill since he's been born is a lot of money. I just thought that for once I would be able to buy my children something nice. But, I was wrong. I feel like the stupidist person in the world right now. My advice to anyone reading this is to not deal with this company.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 16:05

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mndhuston-- you are not the stupidest person in the world!! You are not the only one that has been scammed. I almost fell for the same thing. By you sharing the experience with us, you can prevent someone else from doing the same thing.

As long as we keep working together, we can eventually put an end to all of this.


lrhall41

Submitted by Rhonda28 on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 17:40

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mndhuston,just like rhonda said don't feel bad because i had the same intentions as u not to mention i'm behind on my mortgage payments and a single parent of three and just got laid -off of my job of 8 years . That goes to show u that these r heartless people in this world we live in. and u can best believe we r living in some perilous times. but IF those people sleep at night u can best believe they sleep with one eye open and we can live on, wait on our blessing to come while they look over their shoulders day in and day out.Now ask yourself who really looses and who gains. i strongly believe they will get what's coming to them they may not think so but trust me I KNOW THERE IS A GOD!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 18:19

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PLease please please dont do it!!!!!It is a scam. You should never have to pay an advance fee for a loan. If it is insurance, tell them to take it out of your loan!!!! that will get them to stop calling.

Read these posts on the forum, all these companies are the same. They take your money and run.


lrhall41

Submitted by Rhonda28 on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 18:23

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Thanks all for saying those things to me. I really appreciate it more then you know. I know that other people have been scammed as well as I have, but that the way I feel. But, by you saying those things to me makes me feel a little better. I'm hoping these people get what they deserve. I believe in the lord too, but right now I'm just wondering what thing I must have done to make him angry at me for this to be happening to me and to yall. I'm getting over the crying period of this ordeal now I'm just trying to figure out how to make my family survive. All we can do is try to make other people see the terrible thing they are doing to many other people and to try to stop others from making the same mistake I've made.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 18:30

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I have been there. That is a reason why I joined the community. Which you should do as well mndhuston. I have learned a lot from other people, and I enjoy coming on here and learning new things as well as educating others on my experiences. I have been through the crying phase and the why me phase. You could also benefit from the consultation with the counselor. If you are in debt, one of the experts can give you a hand.

I think most will agree that this is a great community to be a part of.


lrhall41

Submitted by Rhonda28 on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 18:34

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and believe it or not mndhuston thats why u r gonna be bless, keep sharing your experience!right now thats all u can do! also there is a victims compensation board to all u out there send in your documents proof of everything there through the general attorneys office they may be able to help get something back thats what i was told yesterday by them.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 18:37

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It blows my mind that people are actually still concidering doing buisness with AMB. They doubt what everyone says here and listen to the scammers. That my friends is stupidity and those people deserve what they get. Bottom line is, if they don't lose there money to AMB, then they'll lose it to somebody else.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 19:25

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I got a call this evening from the secret service and they claim that because the other countries don't cooperate with them, they cannot really do anything. They can never get any hard leads that will help and, therefore, they are stuck. I don't really understand and I am not giving up, but this is what I have been told. Keep fighting and contacting everyone that you can. As for the question of the FBI's internet fraud division....I GAVE THAT WEBSITE OUT AT LEAST TWICE!!!! www.ic3.gov File a complaint with them, continue to contact the secret service, contact Dateline, contact your local radio station, CONTACT EVERYONE WITH SOME POWER OR A VOICE!!!! Don't let these

**** walk all over you. Do everything you can do to get the word out.

[color=Red]****Adult term removed - Jason[/color]


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/13/2005 - 19:25

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Since I have not told the Allied Mutual fraud people that I know this is a scam and will not be sending money - we could set some kind of trap - tell them that I am sending the money western union - get the person to go pick this up and Bam - Secret service, FBI, Police whoever could at least catch one person. Thinking of going to the web site ic3.gov telling them my idea. I guess if I am thinking this, then it probably has been done and tried - what do you guys think? Also someone said that this site is becoming a waste of time because people are not listening, I have to say I completely disagree - it is not that they are not listening, they just do not want to believe that it would happen to them - also when you want somethine/need something like money wishful thinking is what gets you in this position in the first place, we are or at least were all dreaming of money to begin with that is why we are here. Off the subject for a moment - how does one become part of the community here? I have looked fo a sign up but not sure I am seeing it. Let me know cause I am very interested in what everyone has to say here. Thanks!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 05:35

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I suggested this to the secret service. He said that there is nothing they can do. I wrote to the white house last night because I am very angry that our government doesn't make it a priority to protect us and they aren't doing anything to shut them down. Suggest it again, but you will probably be told that the lack of cooperation with the other governments will make it impossible.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 05:50

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When they tell you to send the money to western union in a specific city, why can't all the WU's in that city be contacted and set a trap for the idiots picking up the money? Why can't the secret service or anyone do anything about these people. The 800 number be researched? The website be investigated. I'm so tired of the authorities saying that can't do anything.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 09:30

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I also got another call from Nancy James who I called back. She picked up the phone on the 10th ring and answered hello. And then she was stumped to why I was calling. Then she put me on hold to bring up my information, a friggin joke. Then I got iriate with her and told her to take the money out of my loan for the insurance and she told me that she couldn't do that so I told her to go to hell.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 09:44

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beware of the indian outfit called Allmerica, I found their ad in the chicago tribune. They scammed me bad and kept asking for more fees and I was in too deep. Filed all the complaints and nothing got done. They all need to be put to death for what they are doing.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 09:57

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Go to the web site liferusultscoaching.com and look at the web site and toll free number same as the number to allied mutual. The address they give is the sante fe railroad building my friend lives in topeka


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 10:38

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No! do not due it...it is a scam...I lost 1000.00 from them being so understanding. They that you need to pay 2000.00 up front for insurance because of credit history. I paid it and never heard from them again.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 09/14/2005 - 10:45

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