Eastside Lenders has my new account info!!!!!
you are not alone ald. hang in there, some one will be here to h
you are not alone ald. hang in there, some one will be here to help shortly.
Ald, you are the second person today that got hit by East Side l
Ald, you are the second person today that got hit by East Side lenders getting their new account info. so sorry that this happened to you. get to the BANK AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO REVERSE THE UNAUTHORIZED CHARGE
Ald, east side has been busy today...Is the information not in w
Ald, east side has been busy today...Is the information not in what they sent to you??
I plan on spending yet another lunch hour at the bank. Closing d
I plan on spending yet another lunch hour at the bank. Closing down this account, and opening another somewhere else. I'm running out of banks in my little town!!!!!
Ald, I really do feel bad for you. This is all of our worst nigh
Ald, I really do feel bad for you. This is all of our worst nightmares come true. I hope openong another account works.
Roxy, they sent me an approval email this morning. when and all
Roxy, they sent me an approval email this morning. when and all my new bank account info was on the loan documents they sent to me.
I'm going to be sick
Calm down, please let us know what happens at the banks.making y
Calm down, please let us know what happens at the banks.making yourself sick will only make matters worse. Take a deep breath and try to calm dowm. We are here if you need us.
Thanks Kashzan, I just saw Cannr's post. This is unbelievable!!!
Thanks Kashzan, I just saw Cannr's post. This is unbelievable!!! Ugh!
Ald, I searched old threads but couldn't find one which I find s
Ald, I searched old threads but couldn't find one which I find suprising...Hopefully someone will be along soon to help you. I am so sorry for you. This is so scary. Please keep us informed about what is going on and let us know if we can help you.
ald..it seems like Eastside Lenders have been busy this week. Yo
ald..it seems like Eastside Lenders have been busy this week. You and Cannr...who else?? No one is safe from these bloodsuckers! We know they are doing something illegal...they need to be stopped!
I found this on the BBB site...I not sure which is which, but y
I found this on the BBB site...I not sure which is which, but you should recognize the addy.
East Side Lenders
One Commerce Center 1201 Orange Street #600
Wilmington, DE
Phone Number: 866-569-6636
Eastside Lenders
9218 Metcalf Ave #112
Overland Park, KS 66210
Telephone: (866) 569-6636
Fax: (180) 058-1429 ext. 6
eastsidelenders.com
Really, it's not that common for this to happen! I know way mor
Really, it's not that common for this to happen! I know way more people that have never been hit on their new account then those who have.
Ald ked - Do you write checks? Do any payments through ach? Bill pay?
Eastside Lenders has my new account info!!!!!
Ok, this is real scary. I myself am fighting with Eastside Lenders right now on a $450 loan I have paid $337.50 on and owe $157.50. I spoke to them at the end of Sept and they said I owed $562.50 total to settle with them. I told them I live in Florida and gave them the laws on PDL's and of course they said they were in Delaware and go by their laws, blah, blah. I never heard back from them until the end of last week. Now it's someone else that says I owe $725 now. And she spouted of the Delaware thingy again. I haven't answered her on that one yet. But this is pretty scary that they are finding new account information and taking money from them. I have been lucky so far with my bank that anything that has come through they are refusing for me. I even had UsFastcash send a check through and it bounced cause I didn't have the money in there. I e-mailed my bank and they said if it happens again (to put a stop pay on a check they have to have the actual check number) all I have to do is fill out a form and fax it to them and they will have the money back into my account by end of day. This just sucks cause you pretty much have to watch your account 24/7 to make sure one of these idiots hasn't tried to get money. All of this PDL crap is such a headache. I've gotten so many e-mails (I even got a text message this morning) saying I'm approved for a loan and I just delete all of them. I'm never, ever going to get into this crap again. I'm just hoping it doesn't take me the rest of my life to get straightened out. I've only got two that are legit CashnetUsa and PaydayOne. I had worked out a payment plan with Cashnet, but I wasn't able to pay yesterday so I'm waiting for them to start raising cain. I just don't have the money right now to pay them. I haven't even talked to PaydayOne lately. I tried to get them to work with me on payments when I can get caught up and they refused to work with me.
Thanks roxy, that helps! I appreciate it! Goudah, yes I do wr
Thanks roxy, that helps! I appreciate it!
Goudah, yes I do write checks and my auto insurance is automatically debited from my checking account. I'm thinking of not even opening a new account. I can use my future hubby's if I need to, I guess. It will be easier done that way, than this headache!!!
Okay, this is just a theory. When you write checks at retai
Okay, this is just a theory.
When you write checks at retailers, they normally run that check through some sort of software to make sure you don't have a history of bouncing checks. Most commonly SCAN or telecheck.
CL Verify - The database compiler that payday loan companies use compiles data from SCAN and Chexsystems.
Chexsystems - If you open an account at a bank that checks this report, and inquiry will show on the report.
So, CL Verify can show the payday loan company several things. It would show them what bank you opened an account at if it was a chex using bank. Also, since it compiles information from SCAN, it's possible some of your check information is included. This information is only available to businesses, so I don't know how much they actually show the business, or what the business sees, but I would guess that they would get enough information to either debit your account with your ss# (some bank will allow a business to do so with a signed contract), or possibly got the actual account information. That's just my guess at this point, it's hard to say exactly how they got the info without a bunch more information.
I agree with you Goudah..I think anytime you write a check your
I agree with you Goudah..I think anytime you write a check your information is kept somewhere. No matter how safe a website or business claims to be...there will always be people who have knowledge of this information and will to sell it. There are lots of websites that have your information on it..I found mine on a website last week..things I thought I had never disclosed...it's amazing!
OMG! that is so scary to know. Im not going to write any more ch
OMG! that is so scary to know. Im not going to write any more checks if possible. I will use money orders from now on. This is crazy. Makes me want to just withdraw my whole paycheck from now and keep it at home.
laura, what website did you find your information? if you dont m
laura, what website did you find your information? if you dont mind me asking. I want to check to see if my information is on there too.
Also, when you order new checks, you have to be very careful abo
Also, when you order new checks, you have to be very careful about what company you use. Many of the big check printing companies will send the information to data compiles like CL Verify.
oh wow. never new that. thanks goudah. my company uses deluxe ch
oh wow. never new that. thanks goudah. my company uses deluxe checks.
It's just so frustrating! You know? I think I cleardd myself of
It's just so frustrating! You know? I think I cleardd myself of the mess I got into and out of the blue, it starts up all over again. I already spoke to my boyfriend and I'm going to close out my account at the bank and deposit my money into his account. I may as well since I already have his checkbood and ATM card!
Ald, do you have direct deposit? let me know, because I wanted t
Ald, do you have direct deposit? let me know, because I wanted to do something similar and was told that because it is direct deposit it could not be deposited in an account that was not mine.
I already spoke to my Payroll Department. No, they won't deposit
I already spoke to my Payroll Department. No, they won't deposit it into his account. That stinks, but it's a small sacrifice to pay, I guess. My name isn't on it at all, so NOBODY can come after me.
I probably shouldn't say that...we're talking about PDL Companies, afterall. ;)
man, our money just isnt safe anymore. no matter where you put i
man, our money just isnt safe anymore. no matter where you put it. its sad that we have to resort to putting 'our' money in other people's bank accounts just so we can live off of it. at this rate, im going to open an account in my kids name and put my money there. or open a safe deposit box and hide it there. sheesh.....
Seriously, it is not that huge of a problem. Think of this - In
Seriously, it is not that huge of a problem. Think of this - In the last 6 months alone, probably at least 400 people have come here with payday loan problems. 6 have had new accounts hit. Less then 2%. It does not happen all that often. I've had my pdl's cleared up for almost 2 years, and none of my new accounts have been hit. Many other people can say the same thing.
ALD, they will not put it his account>? So what are you going t
ALD, they will not put it his account>?
So what are you going to do?
animah..the site was Intelius (one of many).. you put a name in
animah..the site was Intelius (one of many).. you put a name in there and find addresses..etc. If you pay $$ you can find out other information. Apparently all this is public information but to see it all listed together is really scary. They even had my deceased husband's name..and records on him. You learn something new everyday.
Kashzan, I'm lucky enough that his bank is directly across the s
Kashzan, I'm lucky enough that his bank is directly across the street from my job, so I can just go over there at lunch and make a deposit.
Goudah..it's true that maybe just a few people have their accoun
Goudah..it's true that maybe just a few people have their accounts hit up like this..but I had my account hit my a completely different type of company. They listed themselves as market research and try to take 110 dollars from my account. They had no connection with any of my IPDL's...just tried to get my money. My bank took care of it and I filed papers on fraud..but this was very strange.
Ok, I understand. so you will endorse the check to your BF and t
Ok, I understand. so you will endorse the check to your BF and then deposit it. My bank is not great with third party checks. I will check it out.
Yeah, it isn't just pdl's that hit people's accounts. There are
Yeah, it isn't just pdl's that hit people's accounts. There are all sorts of businesses and fraudulant companies that will hit people's accounts if they can.
Kashzan, I just called his bank to double check. I never thought
Kashzan, I just called his bank to double check. I never thought about there being an issue!! Thanks for the heads up! They said there would be no issues if I endorse the back as "Jane Smith for deposit into account of Bob Jones (account number)."
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ald, my friend, you are not alone. I'm going between my thread and your thread. Exact same situation (well, except I didn't get a loan approval from Eastside). However, $400 was debited from my new account. The only connection I can make is with Eastside Lenders. I, like you, have my car insurance automatically deducted, and I also write checks at stores sometimes. Not a lot, but sometimes. ald, we need to hold hands because I'm scared too. I'm so sick. I want to not open a new account out of total fear. However, I don't know how to function without an account.
This is just such a sickening situation. It seems that this is
This is just such a sickening situation. It seems that this is happening more often too. I do agree with Goudah that it's a small percentage of these PDLs that attempt to do this, but it's very disturbing nonetheless. Personally, I don't keep very much money in my checking account anymore for this reason. I just don't feel it's safe.
Do not fear opening a new account. Hell, if this continues, you
Do not fear opening a new account. Hell, if this continues, you could absolutly sue this company. You would have proof that they are continually "stalking" your bank accounts. It could be a very interesting and precedent setting case. Something a lawyer may be willing to take on contingency instead of you paying an upfront fee . . . .
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I guess it would be considered 'stalking your bank accounts'. Honestly. It's freaky. I guess I shouldn't be afraid to open a new account. But it just really freaks me out that is has been THIS LONG and this happens now. Really weird. It's been MONTHS.
Now I'm wondering if possibly I should have left my account open
Now I'm wondering if possibly I should have left my account open to see if anybody tries to hit it with anything. Probably not, the headache would not be worth it, but it would have been interesting to see if anybody attempted to withdraw funds
I'm curious, so far the companies that seem to be doing this reg
I'm curious, so far the companies that seem to be doing this regularly are Eastside Lenders and Geneva Roth, right?
Jen those are the two that we are hearing about. One of our memb
Jen those are the two that we are hearing about. One of our members asked Geneva how they got their new bank info , and was told that they use an agency that tracks people and their bank accounts. Ugh
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Up until today, I've only seen posts regarding Geneva Roth debiting new accounts. Now today it seems as though Eastside had a "field day" over the weekend and hit at least myself and ald on Monday.
Cannr- thats the weird thing. They didn't take any of my money.
Cannr- thats the weird thing. They didn't take any of my money. They approved me for another loan. Why the H-E double hockey sticks would they "approve" me when I OWE them $80? But there it was, clear as day on the loan documents. They had my new address, bank, routing number, and account number. Even though I moved, I never changed my PO Box, yet they have my new home address. I didn't notify ANYBODY except the utilities/car insurance that I moved. I haven't even changed my drivers license yet.
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OMG! :shock: That's even spookier! How do they find that information? Do you think people are "selling" our information somehow? Now that Eastside has your information (crap!), please be extremely cautious. They know where you are, your new bank information, etc. This is unreal. Is there an "inside" person working somewhere? I'm scared to death just knowing this creepy man said he can tell me ANYTHING about me just by giving him my name. Let alone having something pop up on my computer with all my "new" information on it. I swear to God, this is like border-line stalking. Ald, I am so sorry.
Cannr, I agree it is very scary. Hate to be the voice of doom he
Cannr, I agree it is very scary. Hate to be the voice of doom here, but that guy is probably right. Give him your name and you entire life will pop up. Damn , its under the mattress for my money.
I was just telling my kiddo what happened today and she brought
I was just telling my kiddo what happened today and she brought up something. I had financed her class ring. That is the only time I had used my information anywhere since I got my new bank account and moved. I'm thinking that could be it.
Then I had to reassure her that it wasn't her fault. Poor kid.
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Oh, poor thing! That probably wasn't even it. Some slimy moron got our information. I'm convinced there's "something out there" (sounds like a spooky movie) that checks databases and we were nabbed by the slimy morons. Eastside must have been on a mission this weekend, ald. We just were the lucky ones.
I know for a fact that Deluxe Check printers has connections to
I know for a fact that Deluxe Check printers has connections to the same sources that the pdl co's do. Do not ever order checks from Deluxe, somehow they are affiliated with chexsystems.
ladybug
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Huh. I did order checks from someone. Who was it? Deluxe? I just checked the box and the name isn't on there. How did you find this out, ladybug? Now I'm curious. Because I did order checks rather than getting them from the bank because it was cheaper. Maybe now I'm paying the price for doing that.
That is interesting information. I will be sure to order from t
That is interesting information. I will be sure to order from the bank from now on.