816-423-8000 - Has anyone heard of Phoenix Debt Management?

Hi there, this is the only info I could find at this forum, hopefully it's the same one you posted about. Below is a link where I found the address. :)

Phoenix debt management
PO BOX 11127
Kansas City MO 64119
Toll Free: (866) 504-7548
info(at)phoenixdm.com
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/paydayloan/attach-wages.html

Sure sounds like it's the same people. Thanks for your help!

You're quite welcome! :)

phoenixdm dot com is their web address, not much there though

Pachacutec, At the risk of sounding like a jerk, they got their "grubby little hands" on your bank account information because you gave it to someone, most likely over the internet. Their are all kinds of different people in the business. Some take and process applications, some just get applications and sell them to lenders. Some get applications and just rip people off. And yes, they use all kinds of different names.

Did they ever approve you for an loan and did they ever transfer the money into your account? I know that everyone on this site hates IPDL's and I'm not going to try to defend them, but most of the time they do actually put the money into your account if you are approved. That way they can start debiting you account for the fees, which is what they are business to do.

If you really got ripped off, in that they never put the money into your account and just started debiting, I'm sorry.

If they are the same co.file ag complaints.they are trying to collect on paydayloan yes on me.they got hammered by the il ag.they are horrible.they focus on pdl's only,so they get nasty.first send them a dv letter,also a c&d letter. The address i got was.

phoenix debt management
p.o. box 11127
kansas city, mo 64119

hope this helps.

Yesterday and again today I received a call at work from Reverend Carter from PDM payday loans. I asked him what he was talking about since I have NEVER taken a pay day loan in my life. He proceeded to ask me questions and said he needed to verify my information. I told him that since I had NEVER taken a pay day loan in my life that the information he was trying to verify was obviously not mine. His response - 'oh yeah' then he apologized and hung up. BEWARE, I THINK THIS IS A SCAM TO GET YOUR INFORMATION!!!! The caller ID shows 816-423-8000 and the call back number he left on my voicemail is 866-504-7548.

I am paying pdm now. they are very agressive, but I do owe the money so I just made arrangements with them. would like more info on these dv - c&d letters though. If I don't pay they threaten to garnish my wages. I gave wage revolk forms to my employer just in case,should this work ?

Hey so what did you do?

Calling the Troll patrol........


Clean up in isle 5.

way ahead of you nohiogal.zap they gone.

LOL :lol:

Hey nohiogal.

:wink: Thanks Paul

hello folks pdm its taht bad, if you took the loan just pay it bk

TROLLLLL

Get a life, just cuz you want to be a "loan shark wanna be" doesn't mean we won't stand up to you slimey a$$. Can someone get rid of this jerk plz.

Real brave to come on here with a guest account and start throwing rocks.

By TROLL!!!

this is a legal collection agency they sued me and they get about 490 a month from my pay check!! they are real and they do have lawyers on their side!! they may be firm and come across rude but they mean business and i wish i would of worked with them!!

Madison, if they are legal, why do they refuse to answer questions? They won't even provide me with their address and told me they didn't have to provide me with anything in writing when I mentioned debt validation to them.

They also told me that they had sent something to a county in Utah, but refused to even tell me what it was they sent. They also are claiming to have sent this thing(whatever it is)to a county in Utah that I don't even live in. Maybe they just don't know how to pronounce it correctly.

Legitimate collection agents are willing to answer questions. When I asked them for a license or proof that the company they were trying to collect for was licensed to do business in the State of Utah, their only response was that I didn't care about that when I got the loan.

That is the same answer I get from the illegal PDL companies. I found legal PDL companies to be very cooperative when it comes to making payment arrangements, answering questions, and providing with their address.

Also, I spoke with the Utah Attorney General's office and they have never heard of them and said they are not licensed to collect in the state of Utah. He also advised me not to pay them anything, but to contact the original payday loan company to verify who they sent my loan to.

Sorry Madison if I am accusing wrongly, but perhaps you have worked with them, I mean for them?

Something further - why would anyone agree to send money to someone who calls them on the phone, but won't provide proof they are actually authorized to collect on the debt?

All of the above info refers to PDM.

1 more thing to anyone out there. I am not a guest, just lost my login information. My original name is Wieck.

no worries wieck2.you busted the shill's bubble but good.nice work. :D 8)

I just received a call from PDM, for a PDL I took out and could no longer pay for, with the economy the way it is today things just happen and my hubby and I have had to file bankruptcy, she took my lawyers number and then proceeded to tell me that they would be garnishing my wages and charging me with internet fraud and bad check writing. They will do anything to get you to pay them. My lawyer said they can not do this unless I took the loan out knowing I was going to file bankruptcy and they would have to prove that. The loan was taken out 6 months before we even started to look into bankruptcy and some of the loan was paid back. Here is the street address for the company as I have heard that the PO Box does not exist.
PROFESSIONAL DEBT MANAGEMENT, LLC
d/b/a PDM, LLC
c/o Salvatore Abbott, Registered Agent
7007 NE Parvin Road, Suite 3
Kansas City, MO 64117

ireceived a call also. they are working out of kansas city,mo

REPORT THIS COMPANY TO THE Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20580
(202) 326-2222
[URL="http://www.ftc.gov/"]www.ftc.gov[/URL]S COMPANT TO THE FTC

Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20580
(202) 326-2222
[URL="http://www.ftc.gov/"]www.ftc.gov[/URL]

i had to change my bank account number..he said he was collecting a debt.would not tell me the name of the debt...

he threatened me, i told him i made arrangements already which was true...

and i still see this stupid number on my phone pad every single day....change all your numbers and make arrangements with the payday service directly

They never give you and straight answer all they do is want your account numbers so they can rip money out..i almost lost an entire
paycheck...i closed my number down..do not give them your account numbers-- change everything..make arrangements with a debt consolidation its easier...one payment and its out...

They will not tell which payday loan it is i have 2 that i'm paying out...there not getting my money because they will not tell me anything..i will call the pay day loan direct and make arrangements don't go through these people.

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They are calling me too. I sent them cease and desist and validation letter. In addition, I sent their info to the PA Dept of Banking and the woman I have spoken to there. They cannot really garnish wages, can they? Anything else I should do?

They called me agian and left a voicemail that they would be faxing paperwork to my payroll dept for wage garnishment. I know they can't really do this, but I gave a heads up to the woman in payroll just in case. I am still freaking out a bit about all of these payday loans. I called the PA Dept of banking again and told them about this company. Is there anythign I can do to get them to stop calling? I have already sent cease and deisist and validation letters, but htey have sent me nothing. I am nervous, I am a sinlge mom and am doing my best.

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but how do I get them to stop?

a C&D(cease and desist)letter should do the trick.there is an address preceding page of this thread.once they receive it,they open themselves up to legal action if they continue to call.send the letter certified mail return receipt.

This number has been showing up at the Orange County, CA Airport telephones. Who ever they are ...they are being tracked. The local authorities are looking to prosecute.

My sister got a call from these people at her business today saying they were the sheriff's office and they were trying to get ahold of me. When I called them back it was a debt management company on behalf of paydaymax loans. These people kept on saying I owed them more money, although I have paid back my original loan amount several times over. I set up a 2 payment deal with them to clear out my "so-called" balance. I hope I didn't make a huge mistake by paying these people off.

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